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Does God Love all people?

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by rhern, Oct 19, 2021.

  1. rhern

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    Does God Love every persons that walks the earth?
     
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  2. Abaxvahl

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    Yes. If anything exists it is loved, for as the Scriptures say: "for you [God] love all things that exist, and detest none of the things that you have made, for you would not have made anything if you had hated it. How would anything have endured if you had not willed it? Or how would anything not called forth by you have been preserved? You spare all things, for they are yours, O Lord, you who love the living."

    Not to mention to love others is all that He does from eternity.
     
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  3. fhansen

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    Wisdom 11:21-26. Thank you! beautiful passage.
     
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  4. RileyG

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    Yes. Yes. Yes.
     
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  5. klutedavid

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    God is love and God created everyone. You bet that God loves everyone.
     
  6. sunshineforJesus

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    Yes,God loves each and every person no matter what.
     
  7. Mark Quayle

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    Where is that in "Scripture"?
     
  8. The Liturgist

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    Wisdom 2 is probably my favorite chapter of any book in the Old Testament, given the clarity of its prophecy of the Passion of our Lord; although there are a lot of contenders (much of the Septuagint versions of Daniel and Esther, much of Isaiah, the canticles in Daniel and Isaiah, the pericope in Ezekiel describing the General Resurrection, and the pericope describing the mystical Third Temple, which I believe is a typological prophecy of the Christian liturgy, and many other books. For example, I am very fond of Ecclesiastes (and Ecclesiasticus, aka Sirach).
     
  9. The Liturgist

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    Wisdom 11:21-26. Unabridged versions of the King James Bible feature it, and you can also read it on this excellent KJV online website: WISDOM OF SOLOMON CHAPTER 1 KJV

    It is also in the Challoner Douai Rheims, the Orthodox Study Bible, some copies of the RSV and NRSV, and the Lancelot Brenton translation of the Septuagint.

    Wisdom, as it is usually called in the Anglican church (I am surprised that site used the longer name) chapter 2, is my favorite New Testament pericope. One of the delightful things about Morning Prayer, Choral Mattins and Choral Evensong in the Anglican tradition is the incorporation of lessons from these books, which is expressly permitted in the 39 articles (increasingly, many liturgical churches are using these books, as the Daily Office lectionary from the Revised Common Lectionary includes them, but it also includes alternate lessons from the 22 books in the Masoretic text). I greatly prefer the Septuagint to the Masoretic; the Septuagint versions of books like Daniel and Esther are more prayerful.

    The Church, while agreeing on the 27 book canon proposed by St. Athanasius for the New Testament, has never come to a consensus regarding the Old Testament, with the five largest denominations worldwide (Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Anglican, Oriental Orthodox and Lutheran) accepting the deuterocanon, but the canons varying between the churches (for example, the Ethiopian Tewahedo Orthodox Church, which has 40 million members, almost all of whom are active communicants, making it one of the largest churches in the world on the basis of Sunday attendance, includes 1 Enoch, Jubilees, and several other books not found elsewhere).

    St. Athanasius himself also defined an Old Testament canon, but even the Coptic church does not use it; it lacked Esther but included Judith, among other notable aspects.

    Ultimately, the lack of consensus on the contents of the Old Testament leads me to consider it a matter of adiaphora, since the Eastern and Oriental Orthodox churches, different churches in the Roman Rite, and different provinces in the Anglican communion (there are a few low church provinces, like the Church of Ireland, and, until the 1892 revision of the American BCP, the Protestant Episcopal Church, which historically did not read the apocrypha, whereas the Church of England, the Church in Wales, the Scottish Episcopal Church, and the Anglican Church in Canada always did). Also Lutheranism has an open canon, which my friend @MarkRohfrietsch can explain (I myself am curious how open the canon actually is, like, for example, could New Testament apocrypha such as the Protoevangelion of James, which deals with the Nativity of the Virgin Mary, and corresponds with Orthodox doctrine concerning her birth, and the Shepherd of Hermas and 1 Clement, which frequently appeared in proposed canons for the New Testament, be included, or is it open only with respect to the Old Testament? And is the open canon in any sense a result of Luther’s unhappiness with the Antilegomenna, and thus a means of allowing for private opinions on those books? And with the canon being open, do books still have to conform to and not contradict the Formula of Concord, or are they treated as the Anglican 39 Articles treat the deuterocanonicals, as a source of edification but not doctrine?
     
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  10. iLearn

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    God loves everyone and He will also throw most people in this world to hell
     
  11. The Liturgist

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    I think you have that backwards, insofar as we condemn ourselves; God is a consuming fire; He desires our voluntary love, and when we are in alignment with God, we experience His grace as love, but when we turn against God, his uncreated grace becomes the experience of wrath.
     
  12. Michael Collum

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    God is love, regrettably, this involves destroying anything that is not love. (love always protects)

    According to the scripture God loved Jacob and hated Esau. (this relates to the exclusionary love and hate of the disciple in the Luke and Matthew passages)

    According to the scripture, the majority of people who have lived or who will ever live will be killed in the presence of the king for not wanting him as king. Our king is a consuming fire, so this is the second death. (love always protects)

    According to the scripture God does not love sin. When people self identify with sin, that personality constructed from sin is not loved by God. The person God loves, is dead until someone is born again by the Holy Spirit, when the spirit within the person is given life. (love rejoices in the truth)

    According to the scriptures God is being kind so people will repent. (love is patient, love is kind)
     
  13. rhern

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    John 6:68-71 Simon Peter answered, “Lord, who will we go to? You have the words of eternal life. We have come to believe and know that You are the Holy One of God!” Jesus replied to them, “Didn’t I choose you, the Twelve? Yet one of you is the Devil!” He was referring to Judas, Simon Iscariot’s son, one of the Twelve, because he was going to betray Him.
     
  14. Michael Collum

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    "Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect." seems to imply God is like that. This verse (Matthew 5:38-48) appears to be the basis for God loving those who hate him. However, in the Old Testament it is written that anyone who opposes Him, God will repay them to their face.

    So another question to clarify may be, what are the distinct differences between the three persons of the trinity?
     
  15. Blade

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    Lets see did He (Christ) not speak only what the Father told Him? Did He not say for God so loved the world He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God did not send His son to condemn the world but to save it.

    Forgive me Father.. Hell we know there will be in heaven such a great number of people no man can number from all nations "After these things I looked, and this is what I saw: a vast multitude which no one could count, [gathered] from every nation and from all the tribes and peoples and languages [of the earth], standing before the throne and before the Lamb (Christ), dressed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands;"

    A GOD left heaven.. left His throne.. He became His creation where all should be damned forever yet...such love to take each persons place. To take the punishment .. He made us and took all our sin that we did on Himself. We can do something that all creation can not do.. call Him Father.

    Thank you so much for this question.. to again remember why He came.. always makes me cry.. good way.
     
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    Double post
     
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  17. zoidar

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    In this way God loved the world, He gave up His only Son that everyone that believes will be saved (John 3:16). I believe the world means everyone in the world, so I believe God shows His love to us all through the cross. ✝️♥️:eartheurafr:
     
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  18. Strong in Him

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    Yes.
     
  19. BBAS 64

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    Yes, but not in the same way....

    It is out of Love he adopts His own children, but not all are adopted by Him.

    in Him,

    Bill
     
  20. pescador

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    Yes. John 3:16, “For God loved the world in this way: He gave His One and Only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send His Son into the world that He might condemn the world, but that the world might be saved through Him.
     
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