Does creationism have any social value?

[variant]

That's an inviting topic for conversation.

Well the more interesting topic would be how the interconnections of the modern world might make this a bit more likely to get perverse.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Well the more interesting topic would be how the interconnections of the modern world might make this a bit more likely to get perverse.

Best to avoid as many of those connections as possible.

 

[variant]

Everyone's except mine.

Now I think you've lost me.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Now I think you've lost me.

See post #61

 

[VirOptimus]

Now I think you've lost me.

He has in the past made incredibly racist posts and been called on it.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

He has in the past made incredibly racist posts and been called on it.

Can you cite one of my "incredibly racist" posts?

 

[VirOptimus]

Can you cite one of my "incredibly racist" posts?

No, I'm not that interested in reading them again.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

No, I'm not that interested in reading them again.

That's because they don't exist.

 

[VirOptimus]

That's because they don't exist.

Whats your view on poor blacks?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Whats your view on poor blacks?

I carefully consider all the facts before pronouncing judgment.

 

[VirOptimus]

I carefully consider all the facts before pronouncing judgment.

Your answer exposes your racism.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Your answer exposes your racism.

How so? Some believe just being white is racist. Are you white?

 

[VirOptimus]

How so? Some believe just being white is racist. Are you white?

What difference would it make?

 

[HitchSlap]

Would the world be a better place if everyone accepted evolution and rejected special creation? Does belief in creation translate to a better, or worse, society? If beneficial shouldn't it be acknowledged by all as a valuable viewpoint? If detrimental what should we do about it?

Teaching kids how to think instead of what to think helps them develop beliefs that comport with reality.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

What difference would it make?

According to some if you are white you are either a racist or the beneficiary of racism.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Teaching kids how to think instead of what to think helps them develop beliefs that comport with reality.

You teach kids how to think by first teaching them what to think. And, most students are helpless against the agenda of the state. As well, most kids come to school, especially college, with already formed opinions, prejudices, etc.

 

[HitchSlap]

You teach kids how to think by first teaching them what to think.

This is completely bass ackwards. This has got to be one of the more ridiculous assertions you've made here on CF. Giving someone the tools by which to evaluate claims and form opinions is preferable to indoctrination.

And, most students are helpless against the agenda of the state.

Children are helpless when they're dropped off at Sunday School and told that snakes talk, humans are made from ribs, global floods occurred and women are the reason humans sin. This is indoctrination and brainwashing at it's worst.

As well, most kids come to school, especially college, with already formed opinions, prejudices, etc.

This why children who were formerly brainwashed in SS reject mythical beliefs when they finally get a chance to objectively evaluate reality without the trappings of religious indoctrination.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

This is completely bass ackwards. This has got to be one of the more ridiculous assertions you've made here on CF. Giving someone the tools by which to evaluate claims and form opinions is preferable to indoctrination.

So you believe first graders should teach themselves to read? What books would you suggest, or do we leave it up them? We should start them thinking for themselves as soon as possible, right? What if they decide not to even go to school?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

This why children who were formerly brainwashed in SS reject mythical beliefs when they finally get a chance to objectively evaluate reality without the trappings of religious indoctrination.

How's that working for them?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

This why children who were formerly brainwashed in SS reject mythical beliefs when they finally get a chance to objectively evaluate reality without the trappings of religious indoctrination.

What you seem to be saying is that we need to be thinking more about science and less about morality.