Does Archbishop Gregory’s Objection to Trump Break New Ground?

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It is possible that Catholic rhetoric regarding Trump is influenced by the high-octane and low-civility rhetoric that is found all over Washington, beginning with the White House.


The controversy over President Donald Trump’s visit to the St. John Paul II National Shrine highlighted a potential new development in the Catholic Church’s relationship with the presidency in the United States. Prominent voices, led by the local ordinary, Archbishop Wilton Gregory of Washington, D.C., thought that the visit should have been canceled; moreover, that it was a betrayal of Catholic values not to have canceled it.

No presidential visit to a Catholic institution has roused such controversy since the University of Notre Dame conferred an honorary doctorate on President Barack Obama in 2009. The circumstances are both similar and different: similar, in that critics thought the president should not have been invited; different, in that Obama was being honored by Notre Dame, while the Trump visit was (ostensibly) to honor Pope St. John Paul II.

The visit to the St. John Paul II National Shrine, operated by the Knights of Columbus, had been planned some time ago specifically for June 2, the date in 1979 when John Paul arrived for the first time in Poland as pope. That visit marked the beginning of the end for the Soviet empire.

Trump has honored that papal pilgrimage before; on a trip to Warsaw in 2017 he spoke at lengthabout St. John Paul II’s homily on June 2, 1979, in Warsaw’s Victory Square.

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Does Archbishop Gregory’s Objection to Trump Break New Ground?
 

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Archbishop Wilton Gregory of Washington says it is “baffling and reprehensible” that President Donald J. Trump was allowed to visit the Saint John Paul II National Shrine amidst nationwide anti-police demonstrations.

Meanwhile, D.C.’s Episcopalians are furious that Park Police removed protesters from the vicinity of St. John’s Church—less than 24 hours after the mob lit the building on fire!

Your hosts Michael Warren Davis and Philip F. Lawler ask: “Are progressive Christians more progressive than Christian?”

Archbishop Gregory vs. President Trump - Crisis Magazine
 
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The National Catholic Reporter is a faux Catholic rag. Even clergy have warned against it. It is independent of The Church and Catholic teaching.
Sorry, I didn't know that. The article seemed to agree with the article you posted.
 
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Sorry, I didn't know that. The article seemed to agree with the article you posted.
Oh I know. No need to be sorry. I was just letting you know about NCR. A lot of people are fooled by it. They have items that can be worth reading but they mix it in with a lot of heresy.
 
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The National Catholic Reporter had a good article about this.

Local Knights of Columbus council denounces Trump visit to DC shrine
There are TWO newspapers that use NCR, the National Catholic Register and the National Catholic Reporter. The National Catholic Reporter is located in Kansas City Kansas. It had been told by the bishop of Kansas City Kansas that it could no longer use the name 'Catholic' as it didn't act Catholic. As far as the Catholic Church goes it is a [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] news organization. So if there is an article in that particular NCR stating that one local Knights of Columbus council denounced Trump's visit to the DC shrine you can bet that every other local Knights of Columbus council either commended the visit or has said nothing. The National Catholic Reporter is an anti-Catholic propaganda paper, and the truth is often the opposite of what the 'report' on. If you want an average to above average Catholic national newspaper, the National Catholic Register is the paper you want.
 
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It is possible that Catholic rhetoric regarding Trump is influenced by the high-octane and low-civility rhetoric that is found all over Washington, beginning with the White House.

Does Archbishop Gregory’s Objection to Trump Break New Ground?
It broke old ground. Catholic bishops beholden to Democratic Party policy makers? That's old news. What would be revolutionary (aka 'New Ground') would be for supposedly Catholic politicians in disobedience to Catholic moral teaching to have to be refused access to the podium to speak in Catholic churches.
 
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Your hosts Michael Warren Davis and Philip F. Lawler ask: “Are progressive Christians more progressive than Christian?”

Archbishop Gregory vs. President Trump - Crisis Magazine
That would be a 'yes'.

Politically engaged Christians run the risk of being political animals at the expense of their faith. This is a risk no matter the politics. Currently I don't see how one can be a Christian and a Democrat. Fifty years ago it made sense. No longer. And I'm not so sure being a consistent Republican fits with Christianity either. One should decide to be a Christian first, and put politics under the Lordship of Christ, or put politics first and abandon the faith.
 
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That would be a 'yes'.

Politically engaged Christians run the risk of being political animals at the expense of their faith. This is a risk no matter the politics. Currently I don't see how one can be a Christian and a Democrat. Fifty years ago it made sense. No longer. And I'm not so sure being a consistent Republican fits with Christianity either. One should decide to be a Christian first, and put politics under the Lordship of Christ, or put politics first and abandon the faith.
Yes. I see Christians that talk about politics and little else if it all when it comes to the Faith. Politics have become an idol.
 
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