Docs reveal DOJ's Ohr was deeply connected to Trump dossier

[Apologetic_Warrior]

Rep. Gaetz reacts to Bruce Ohr's notes about Steele

Mr. & Mrs Ohr, the Bonnie and Clyde for Comey Inc., and with new information coming out, it appears they are now in big big twouble. Eb adeeb that's all folks!

 

[The Barbarian]

Since the investigation didn't start with the dossier,

The Trump-Russia Inquiry Didn't Start With Dossier
The Nunes memo does have a few details that had not yet been revealed (including those related to one of the authors of this article), but the big point is this: nothing in this memo undercuts the initial basis for the FBI’s Trump-Russia investigation. In fact, the memo makes clear that the Steele dossier was not what led to the bureau’s probe. The fuss is just about one slice of the inquiry—not the heart of the matter.
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For months, some Trump partisans have claimed that the Steele memo kicked off the FBI’s inquiry and that this meant the probe was permanently poisoned. Yet this memo shows otherwise. In its final paragraph, the Nunes memo addresses what started the probe—and it wasn’t the Page warrant. It was a drunken admission by George Papadopoulos, another Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, who in May 2016 told an Australian diplomat in London that he knew that Moscow had “dirt” on Hillary Clinton. (This was before it was publicly known that the Russians had hacked Democratic targets.) “The Papadopoulos information triggered the opening of an FBI counterintelligence investigation in late July 2016 by FBI agent Pete Strzok,” the memo states. And this was months before the FBI sought the surveillance warrant for Page.
https://www.motherjones.com/politic...d-its-the-opposite-of-what-it-tries-to-prove/

and since much of the material in the dossier has now been verified,

But some of the document's seemingly wild claims have held up to a year's worth of scrutiny, even as many more parts remain disputed or have no evidence of being true.
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The biggest certainty about the dossier today is that the debates over its veracity will continue for a long time. But for now, this is where its biggest accusations stand after one year:

The dossier claimed Page held secret meetings in Moscow with Igor Sechin, a Putin ally who is the head of Rosneft.

Page vehemently denied that he met with Sechin. But in November, the House Intelligence Committee released a transcript of Page’s congressional testimony revealing he had in fact met with other Rosneft officials, including Sechin's subordinate Andrey Baranov, during a trip to Moscow in 2016.

According to the dossier, Rosneft officials used their meeting with Page to push for the U.S. to lift sanctions on Russia for its support of armed separatist groups in eastern Ukraine. It is now known that the Trump administration sought to water down a proposed Republican Party commitment to send “lethal weapons” to Ukraine’s army to fight off the Russian-backed separatists.

The Trump administration later showed little enthusiasm for implementing or renewing sanctions against Russia. In response, Congress eventually passed a law limiting Trump's ability to lift sanctions, which the president reluctantly signed after issuing a statement condemning it.
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The dossier said educated youth and swing voters were a central target in the Kremlin's campaign of fake news and social media chaos, with the hope of cultivating their anti-establishment anger against Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton. This has been proven by congressional investigations into Russia’s misinformation campaigns during the election, which also showed the cyber attacks were broadly aimed at a variety of voters, with the intent to sow divisions on heated political topics.
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The dossier said Azeri businessman Araz Agalarov knew the details about business bribes Trump had allegedly paid in Russia, as well as Trump's alleged sexual exploits there. Evidence of the bribes and sexual activities has never surfaced, but the connections between Trump and fellow billionaire are now well-established. Agalarov and his pop singer son Emin have known Trump for years, and both men worked with Trump on the Miss Universe Pageant in Moscow in 2013.

Emails released in July revealed that Agalarov’s publicist Rob Goldstone had written to Trump’s son, Donald Trump Jr., to set up a meeting with a Russian lawyer who supposedly had dirt on Hillary Clinton, as part of what Goldstone called "Russia and its government’s support for Mr Trump." Trump Jr. attended a Trump Tower meeting with the lawyer in June 2016 along with Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort and Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner. That meeting has become a major focus of the investigations into the Trump campaign. Goldstone allegedly organized the meeting at Emin Agalarov's behest.
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-russia-dossier-one-year-later-what-we-know-777116

doesn't seem to be much of a concern, even if (as it seems, given the videos above) that the claim of the Ohr involvement is a fake.

 

[Apologetic_Warrior]

Since the investigation didn't start with the dossier, and since much of the material in the dossier has now been verified, doesn't seem to be much of a concern, even if (as it seems, given the videos above) that the claim of the Ohr involvement is a fake.

It doesn't seem you watched the videos above, especially the second one with numerous experts. It appears the Ohr involvement is anything but fake. Looking forward to see how this unfolds, expecting more firing and clearances revoked. If Hilary had won, none of the deception in the DoJ would have been exposed, we would still be in the dark, and it would be business as usual.

 

[The Barbarian]

It doesn't seem you watched the videos above, especially the second one with numerous experts.

Facts are stronger than anyone's opinions. Sorry.

Looking forward to see how this unfolds, expecting more firing and clearances revoked. If Hilary had won, none of the deception in the DoJ would have been exposed

As you see, the dossier turned out to have important information that was since confirmed by other evidence. And since Trump has admitted that Brennan's clearance was revoked for vengence, no one really cares.

 

[The Barbarian]

 

[Apologetic_Warrior]

Facts are stronger than anyone's opinions. Sorry.

As you see, the dossier turned out to have important information that was since confirmed by other evidence. And since Trump has admitted that Brennan's clearance was revoked for vengence, no one really cares.

Great so here are some facts nobody seems to care about:

Any sitting US President reserves the right to revoke an (former) agents security clearance. Here's a blast from the past: Obama should fire John Brennan Oh I forgot Donald Trump is President, therefore it is without reason!

"1) In 2011, Brennan, then the country’s chief counterterrorism adviser, had sworn to Congress that scores of drones strikes abroad had not killed a single noncombatant — at a time when both the president and the CIA were both receiving numerous reports of civilian collateral deaths.

2) In 2014, John Brennan, now as CIA director, lied emphatically that the CIA had not illegally accessed the computers of U.S. Senate staffers who were then exploring a CIA role in torturing detainees. Or as he told Andrea Mitchell: “As far as the allegations of the CIA hacking into Senate computers, nothing could be further from the truth. . . . We wouldn’t do that. I mean, that’s just beyond the, you know, the scope of reason in terms of what we do.” Brennan’s chronic deceptions drew the ire of a number of liberal senators, some of whom echoed the Washington Post’s call for his immediate resignation. After months of prevarications, but only upon release of the CIA inspector general’s report, Brennan apologized to the senators he had deceived.

3) Brennan, in May 2017, as an ex-CIA director, again almost certainly did not tell the truth to Congress when he testified in answer to Representative Trey Gowdy’s questions that he neither knew who had commissioned the Steele dossier nor had the CIA relied on its contents for any action. Yet both the retired National Security Agency director, Michael Rogers, and the former director of National Intelligence, James Clapper, have conceded that the Steele dossier — along with the knowledge that it was a Clinton-campaign-funded product — most certainly did help shape the Obama’s intelligence communality interagency assessments and actions, often under the urging of Brennan himself. There are also numerous reports that, despite his denials about knowledge of the dossier, Brennan served as a stealthy conduit to ensure that it was disseminated widely, at least in the sense of meeting in August 2016 with Senator Harry Reid to brief the senator about its unverified contents in hopes that he would pressure the FBI to further its investigations, which Reid did in a call two days later to James Comey." source
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So Brennan is now a persecuted superstar in the media limelight is he? Another victim of the Trump administration? Revoking his security clearance is long overdue, and I hope several others get the same treatment.

 

[The Barbarian]

Great so here are some facts nobody seems to care about:

If you think so, you haven't been following the conversation.

Any sitting US President reserves the right to revoke an (former) agents security clearance.

Of course he does. The point is that a lot of loyal Americans are angry that he did so out of spite to avenge criticism of his failures, and because of the investigation into his administration's ties with Russia.

So Brennan is now a persecuted superstar in the media limelight is he?

Some real patriots seem to think he's a good man who was pointlessly insulted by Trump:

Leader of bin Laden raid tells Trump: revoke my clearance, too

Retired Adm. William H. McRaven blasted the president for revoking former CIA Director John Brennan’s security clearance this week.
The man who led the raid that killed Osama bin Laden in 2011 has a message for President Donald Trump: Revoke my security clearance, too.

Retired Navy Admiral William H. McRaven, who led US Joint Special Operations Command from 2011 to 2014, wrote a short, but blistering op-ed for the Washington Post on Thursday afternoon, challenging the president on his decision to revoke the security clearance of former CIA Director John Brennan.

In the statement, he praised Brennan’s service to America, and his “unparalleled integrity.”

McRaven continued, writing, “I would consider it an honor if you would revoke my security clearance as well, so I can add my name to the list of men and women who have spoken up against your presidency.”

Like other Americans, McRaven said, he had hoped that Trump would “rise to the occasion” upon his election. But the president, in his eyes, had failed. “Through your actions, you have embarrassed us in the eyes of our children, humiliated us on the world stage and, worst of all, divided us as a nation,” McRaven wrote.

He concluded that Trump’s “McCarthy-era” tactics would fail to suppress criticism, and that such criticism “will continue until you become the leader we prayed you would be.”

The short, straight-to-the-point column was a stunning rebuke of Trump because of the source. McRaven, a decorated veteran with decades of distinguished military service, is not among the usual chorus of voices (or cable news talking heads) of former Barack Obama and George W. Bush officials who loudly criticize the president.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli...an-security-clearance-mcraven-bin-laden-trump

That's what a real American thinks of Trump's impotent insult to Brennan.