Do you think President Trump may be willing to build a Jerusalem Temple?

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I've been a Christian for forty five years and I have gotten the impression that the majority of us Christians at this time fear the arrival of the anti-Christ person..

Was this part of the reason you took the path you did ?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Could the time line seen by near death experiencer Dannion Brinkley in chapter five of his book "Saved By The Light" be an example of non-linear time.... of events that actually happened in the "past" in the sense that they already occurred in another time line BUT........

ONLY in the imagination, not at all in reality nor in truth, and not at
all in the Spirit nor Revealed by the Spirit of the Almighty.

 

[DennisTate]

OK, lol... now it's fitting the pattern. My first reaction to your thread title was flip. I was thinking, "Not without putting his brand on it".
But it would plausibly turn out to be history's most influential real estate deal.
His face on a coin surely elevates him to peerage with Ceasar. lol

You may find this interesting:

Grant Jeffrey:

"Some Christian commentators have suggested that the Antichrist will lead the project to rebuild the Temple. However, the evidence from Scripture causes me to take quite a different view. While numerous prophecies describe the Antichrist defiling the Temple, John refers to the sanctuary as the Temple of God. "And there was given me a reed like unto a rod: and the angel stood, saying, Rise, and measure the temple of God, and the altar, and them that worship therein" (Revelation 11:1). In addition, when the apostle Paul wrote about the Antichrist being revealed, he referred to evil acts that would be carried out in "the temple of God" (see 2 Thessalonians 2:4). These passages strongly suggest that the Jews in genuine worship of God will build the Third Temple and that the Antichrist will later defile it during the Tribulation. Fortunately, the Word of God reveals that when the Messiah comes, "then shall the sanctuary be cleansed" (Daniel 8:14).

One of the greatest of the early church writers, Irenaeus, taught that the new Temple would be a genuine Temple built by the religious Jews. Citing 2 Thessalonians 2:4, he stated that "the Apostle himself, speaking in his own person, distinctly called it the temple of God."

Further, in his book Against Heresies, Irenaeus affirmed his understanding of the Scriptures' prophecies about animal sacrifices being reinstated in a future Temple. He cited Daniel's words in Daniel 9:27, stating, "the sacrifice and the libation shall be taken away, and the abomination of desolation (shall) be brought in the Temple: even unto the consummation of the time shall the desolation be complete." Again, for these prophetic events to occur, the Third Temple must be rebuilt by the Jews as a legitimate Temple of God" (Grant R. Jeffrey, The New Temple and the Second Coming, pages 19, 20)

 

[DennisTate]

Was this part of the reason you took the path you did ?

Yes... I am of the belief that somebody like Hushai may arise who could defeat the counsel of a modern Ahithophel in a modern court of a modern King Absolom.

 

[DennisTate]

There is an exceptionally good article on President Trump by William Dankenbring here at this link:

http://triumphpro.info/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/PF-Jan-2017X.pdf

 

[usexpat97]

"Some Christian commentators have suggested that the Antichrist will lead the project to rebuild the Temple. However, the evidence from Scripture causes me to take quite a different view. While numerous prophecies describe the Antichrist defiling the Temple, John refers to the sanctuary as the Temple of God.

Scripture does not, however, rule out the two being one and the same. If our bodies are now the true Temple, and the "Jews" (really the Gentiles) so-called "rebuild" the Temple on what they think is the Temple Mount, then the act of doing so is defiling. He is sitting on the throne of God, claiming to be God when he is not; claiming for that to be the Temple when it is not.

 

[HARK!]

Rabbi Samson Raphael Hirsch, rabbi of Frankfort, Germany (1808–1888)

רבי שמשון רפאל הירש זצ"ל אב"ד פראנקפורט

During the reign of Hadrian when the uprising led by Bar Kochba proved a disastrous error, it became essential that the Jewish people be reminded for all times of an important, essential fact, namely that (the people of) Israel must never again attempt to restore its national independence by its own power; it was to entrust its future as a nation solely to Divine Providence. (Commentary on the Prayerbook, p. 703)


We mourn over that which brought about that destruction (of the Temple), we take to heart the harshness we have encountered in our years of wandering

as the chastisement of a father, imposed on us for our improvement, and we mourn the lack of observance of Torah which that ruin has brought about. . . This destruction obliges us to allow our longing for the far away land to express itself only in mourning, in wishing and hoping; and only through the honest fulfillment of all Jewish duties to await the realization of this hope. But it forbids us to strive for the reunion or possession of the land by any but spiritual means. (Horeb, p. 461)

 

[Rick Otto]

Rabbi Samson Raphael Hirsch, rabbi of Frankfort, Germany (1808–1888)

רבי שמשון רפאל הירש זצ"ל אב"ד פראנקפורט

During the reign of Hadrian when the uprising led by Bar Kochba proved a disastrous error, it became essential that the Jewish people be reminded for all times of an important, essential fact, namely that (the people of) Israel must never again attempt to restore its national independence by its own power; it was to entrust its future as a nation solely to Divine Providence. (Commentary on the Prayerbook, p. 703)


We mourn over that which brought about that destruction (of the Temple), we take to heart the harshness we have encountered in our years of wandering

as the chastisement of a father, imposed on us for our improvement, and we mourn the lack of observance of Torah which that ruin has brought about. . . This destruction obliges us to allow our longing for the far away land to express itself only in mourning, in wishing and hoping; and only through the honest fulfillment of all Jewish duties to await the realization of this hope. But it forbids us to strive for the reunion or possession of the land by any but spiritual means. (Horeb, p. 461)

Some conservative orthodox Jews agree.
So then what's your take on the Balfour Declaration?

 

[HARK!]

So then what's your take on the Balfour Declaration?

Rabbi Yitzchok Yaakov Rabinowitz,Rebbe of Biala, Russia (d. 1905)

רבי יצחק יעקב ראבינאוויטש זצ"ל אדמו"ר מביאלע

The evil group, conspiracy of the wicked, known as the “Zionists” deny the coming of the messiah, the holiness of the Holy Land and all the promises of the holy Torah and prophets who teach us that the future redemption will be supernatural and above human understanding, as it is written, “No eye but Yours, O G-d, saw what You will do for those who wait for You” (Isaiah 64:4). And they want to take away from the Jewish people their simple faith and give them instead the false contention that everything will happen naturally, G-d forbid, and we need to buy land in Palestine and learn agricultural techniques, in order to be farmers and vine keepers. To them, that is the long-awaited end, and they attempt to teach us the right way to reach it. Anyone with a G-d-fearing heart knows that all their words and lies are against G-d and His holy Torah. (Hagadah Divrei Binah)

 

[Rick Otto]

Rabbi Yitzchok Yaakov Rabinowitz,Rebbe of Biala, Russia (d. 1905)

רבי יצחק יעקב ראבינאוויטש זצ"ל אדמו"ר מביאלע

The evil group, conspiracy of the wicked, known as the “Zionists” deny the coming of the messiah, the holiness of the Holy Land and all the promises of the holy Torah and prophets who teach us that the future redemption will be supernatural and above human understanding, as it is written, “No eye but Yours, O G-d, saw what You will do for those who wait for You” (Isaiah 64:4). And they want to take away from the Jewish people their simple faith and give them instead the false contention that everything will happen naturally, G-d forbid, and we need to buy land in Palestine and learn agricultural techniques, in order to be farmers and vine keepers. To them, that is the long-awaited end, and they attempt to teach us the right way to reach it. Anyone with a G-d-fearing heart knows that all their words and lies are against G-d and His holy Torah. (Hagadah Divrei Binah)

I could break bread with that man.
Thank you for the introduction.

 

[summerville]

You may find this interesting:

Grant Jeffrey:

Daniel is writing about Antiochus IV who defiled the Temple. The Jews rededicated the Temple 3 years later.. that's why the Jews celebrate Hannuka.

Try not to promote poor scholarship, dennis.

 

[HARK!]

I could break bread with that man.
Thank you for the introduction.

You're welcome.

Lots more where that came from:

The Rabbis Speak Out

Shalom

 

[High Fidelity]

I don't doubt he'd try because he knows voters will lap it up.

Hopefully not though. However many homeless people on the streets and people without basic medical care in the US, the last thing a country needs to be building with a $17tn debt is a temple in another country.

 

[FenderTL5]

"Do you think President Trump may be willing to build a Jerusalem Temple?"

I would presume it would depend on whether he was able to place his name on top of it or not.

 

[Bobber]

What President Trump is up against boggles my mind......

It is rather astonishing isn't it. All which indicates to me even although he's not perfect the type of resilience he has points to the possibility that he was raised up by God for such a time as this.

 

[Rick Otto]

You're welcome.

Lots more where that came from:

The Rabbis Speak Out

Shalom

I'm on it!

 

[DennisTate]

It is rather astonishing isn't it. All which indicates to me even although he's not perfect the type of resilience he has points to the possibility that he was raised up by God for such a time as this.

I totally agree!

Passover Lamb may be sacrificed on Passover 2020?

I am convinced that we Christians are supposed to support the Jewish people
in their desire to fulfill the parts of scripture...... that we Christians have almost no
understanding of and no background in!


Luke 24:25
"Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken:"


A massive outpouring of the Holy Spirit on the Jewish people occurs when the Jewish people see Christians.... .who actually believe what Messiah Yeshua - Jesus said about the fulfillment of the Jewish Bible!

Matthew 5

17 Think not that I came to destroy the law or the prophets: I came not to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass away from the law, till all things be accomplished.


Do you believe a massive Holy Spirit tsunami is coming?

Personally I love the idea put forward by a pastor in Uganda that when we Christians support and respect the Jewish people more as they play their role in bringing back Messiah, the Holy Spirit will be poured out unlike ever before in history!

That makes a lot of sense to me!

Eporu Ronald Alfred

Kakira Deliverance Church,
P.O. Box 3191, Kakira, Jinja, Uganda

......

Dear brethren,
I salute you in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ!

RE: SHARING NEW DISCOVERIES OF THE TRUTH IN BIBLE PROPHECY CONCERNING THE IMMINENT HEALING AND UNITY OF THE CHURCH

I am mesmerized by the truth in bible prophecy that the Spirit of God has been revealing over the recent years. Secret things belong to God and those that are revealed belong to us and our children... (Deut 29: 29).

1. King Cyrus the great ruled his country 555 years Before Christ i.e. from 576 BC to 530 BC and authorised the rebuilding of the second temple in Jerusalem. Cyrus of the Old Testament is hence associated with the number 555 and is the shadow figure of incoming Cyrus II of the New Testament. You may learn more about his history from the internet and scriptures. This new truth enables us to identify the leadership of the world that will rebuild the temple in Jerusalem as prophesied in book of Isaiah before the rise of antichrist. Cyrus II is coming to revive the evangelical/Pentecostal church in Jerusalem and restore the headquarters of the church in same city where the church was born. He is set to strip Babylon of the vessels of the temple and the name of the Lord God and transfer that crown back to Jerusalem thus leaving Babylon naked. Cyrus will rebuild the temple in Jerusalem in fulfilment of the prophecy of Jesus as written in the book of John 2:18-23 and the prophecy of Isaiah as written in chapters 40, 41, 45 and 47 of the book of Isaiah. Jesus regarded the temple as the symbol of his own body while saying that he had the power to lay it down on the first day (1st millennium) and rebuild or raise it up on the 3rd day (3rd millennium). Remember that one day in the eyes of God is the same as one thousand years (millennium) as stated in book of 2 Peter 3:8. Rebuilding of the temple is thus associated with unification of the church.

Cyrus II will rebuild the temple in honour of our lord Jesus Christ. The temple will be the unifying (rallying) point of the world wide evangelical church as the original headquarters of the church. Psalms133 denotes that there is such a powerful anointing that comes along with unity among brethren. Unification of the whole body of Jesus Christ will make the church so powerful that she will overrun the world within a short time before the return of our lord Jesus Christ. A divided church is a powerless church whereas a united church is a powerful church. The church can only be able to fulfil her ultimate mission of revealing Jesus to the world once we get united as one body of Jesus Christ following his last prayer for his disciples as written in John 17:20-23.

Cyrus II will erase that false image of Jesus that the counterfeit and Idolatrous state church of Babylon has been projecting around the world and revive the original church that projects the true brilliant image of Jesus Christ. Haggai 2:9 says that the glory of the latter church (temple) will be greater than the glory of the former church (temple).The rise of Cyrus will also usher in the ultimate fulfilment of the prophecy of Joel 2:28 where God intends to pour out His Spirit on all flesh in these last days. The era of Cyrus brings the gentile period of grace to its close and leads to the restoration of the Jewish period of grace and salvation.




2. King Manasseh was the shadow figure (forerunner) of the antichrist in the Old Testament who ruled over Jerusalem exactly 666 years Before Christ i.e. from 697 BC to 642 BC. (2 chronicle 33: 1-2 and 2 kings 21: 1-17). Antichrist is associated with the number 666 as written in the book of Revelation 13:18. Manasseh was the most evil king to have ever ruled over the city of Jerusalem and kingdom of Judah.

Manasseh is reported to have killed so many innocent people in Jerusalem that the streets of Jerusalem were flowing with blood; he worshiped pagan idols and stars; he built pagan alters for idols and stars in the very courtyards of the temple; he sacrificed his sons to idols; he consulted diviners and mediums; he even set up an abominable pagan image at the temple that causes desolation just as the incoming antichrist will do. It was on that basis that God decided to have that first temple destroyed completely since Manasseh had desecrated it.



3. Prophet Jonah was the shadow figure (forerunner) of Jesus Christ in the Old Testament who undertook his prophetic ministry around 777 B.C. Prophet Jonah is hence associated with the number 777. He arose from the shadow and demise of Prophet Elisha. His preaching radiated such great power and authority that turned the city of Nineveh as the rising super power of that time up side down within 3 days only (read the book of Jonah). Jonah was the prophetic force behind the restoration of the lost territories of Israel in the reign of King Jeroboam II of Israel between 782 BC and 741 BC as written in II Kings 14:25. Jonah related with God more or less as his own father and God loved him more or less as His own son. He volunteered to die save occupants of the ship and was raised to life after three days just like Jesus Christ. Jesus compared himself with Jonah as his forerunner in the Old Testament as far as his earthly ministry, death and resurrection was concerned in Mathew 12; 38-41, Luke 11; 29-32. Jesus will also oversee the restoration of the lost territories of Israel just like prophet Jonah when he comes to rule as the king of kings and Lord of Lords. We can therefore correctly associate Jesus Christ with the number 777 just like Jonah as our commander-in-chief, Lord of the Sabbath and fountain of life.

The more we know where we came from the more we know where we are going. You are cordially invited to visit my face book home page for more information and messages. Feel free to share this truth with other brethren just as I received it free of charge from God.

Your brother in Christ

Eporu Ronald
Scientist & Minister of Bible Prophecy

 

[DennisTate]

It is rather astonishing isn't it. All which indicates to me even although he's not perfect the type of resilience he has points to the possibility that he was raised up by God for such a time as this.

It seems that some assistance is being raised up for him here in Canada and even from within the Democratic Party?

Advice for Bernier Sanders from Rabbi Shaul Praver.