Do you think it could be impossible to see other races (aliens)?

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I was thinking, people who leaves this planet, have personal problems, we can all admit to that, and can`t live in peace, so they want to see other races on other planets, but here`s the dilemma, if people with problems, could visit other races, wouldn`t they be disturbing them? Let`s say they live as natives, like we used to, in peace and harmony, us visiting them, would be disturbing, hence eventually, all life in the universe would feel bad from our problems, do you think the speed of light, is actually, final, so we can never disturb them, there`s talk about warping black matter and stuff, but they can`t actually prove it`s there, do you think it`s impossible to break the barrier of light, back to the dilemma again, wouldn`t it mean that the universe is a bad place if we can break it and reach other races? Planets are also moving away from us, faster and faster, so maybe the universe is a good place that wants us to be on our own planet?
 

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I was thinking, people who leaves this planet, have personal problems, we can all admit to that, and can`t live in peace, so they want to see other races on other planets, but here`s the dilemma, if people with problems, could visit other races, wouldn`t they be disturbing them? Let`s say they live as natives, like we used to, in peace and harmony, us visiting them, would be disturbing, hence eventually, all life in the universe would feel bad from our problems, do you think the speed of light, is actually, final, so we can never disturb them, there`s talk about warping black matter and stuff, but they can`t actually prove it`s there, do you think it`s impossible to break the barrier of light, back to the dilemma again, wouldn`t it mean that the universe is a bad place if we can break it and reach other races? Planets are also moving away from us, faster and faster, so maybe the universe is a good place that wants us to be on our own planet?

Regarding "Let`s say they live as natives, like we used to, in peace and harmony..."

Well, both the actual story in Genesis and archeological evidence of ancient mass violence among humans -- both the bible and hard evidence -- show that native humans in ancient times lived very violent lives full of war and murder and strife. (as do most animal species generally: living in competition with fights for territory and battles for life and death often, etc.)

Ask if you would like to see quotes from Genesis or archeological evidence of ancient human mass violence.

Or both.

And I'll be happy to show some.
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Could we even detect other species on other planets? It's a good question, and astronomers are trying hard to search for evidence of substances in atmospheres of other planets that might indicate the presence of life, though it might be that only simple life ever makes it very long on planets we can observe, and it's yet to be seen. And when some possible indications are seen, then that will still need plenty of analysis and confirmation, so take any initial headline you see with a few grains of salt. But personally my guess is that simple life arises on other planets, but doesn't normally have time enough and opportunity to lead to more advanced complex life before very commonplace natural events like asteroid impacts or planetary orbital migration or intense stellar winds removing the atmospheres of planets -- and many additional natural events that are common -- eventually destroys the simple life forms long before an advanced species can arise there.
 
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I was thinking, people who leaves this planet, have personal problems, we can all admit to that, and can`t live in peace, so they want to see other races on other planets, but here`s the dilemma, if people with problems, could visit other races, wouldn`t they be disturbing them? Let`s say they live as natives, like we used to, in peace and harmony, us visiting them, would be disturbing, hence eventually, all life in the universe would feel bad from our problems, do you think the speed of light, is actually, final, so we can never disturb them, there`s talk about warping black matter and stuff, but they can`t actually prove it`s there, do you think it`s impossible to break the barrier of light, back to the dilemma again, wouldn`t it mean that the universe is a bad place if we can break it and reach other races? Planets are also moving away from us, faster and faster, so maybe the universe is a good place that wants us to be on our own planet?
1) People with personal problems? I think there has been a few astronauts with problems, but mostly they are normal stable individuals.
2) As stated above, primitive humanity was far from peaceful.
3) We would likely disturb them, unless their technology is at our level or above. We could also disturb them in our beliefs, customs, culture etc. The possibilities are endless. The same can go the other way as well. The Novel "Sphere" by Michael Crichton had some examples how they could be harful to us without even meaning to be describing possibilities such as "breathing in nitrogen and breathing out cyanide" or "speaking in hypersonic waves that shatter our bones".
4) They are working on ways around the speed of light limit. The two main ways are warping space, ala Star Trek, and using a seperate dimension, usually called hyperspace with our ship entering hyperspace at one point and exiting at a point near our destination. We could also do the suspended animation bit and have people wake up after being in suspended animation for 20 years or whatever length of time (example is Avatar).
Your question doesn't take into account time dilation either. The faster you go, the more time is stretched. You experience normal time, the rest of the universe time runs slowly. If we could travel at nearly the speed of light, the closet star, Alpha Centauri is 4 years and change away. We would exerience that amount of time passing. Centuries may have passed for everyone else.
5) Good/bad place: As with Earth, it could be both. We could find we are the advanced ones and try to protect and guide the others. We could find out we are the last to the party, so to speak, and receive guidance. We could also take our warlike tendencies to the stars with us. We could take over the whole universe, or we could poke the wrong "hornet's nest" and be wiped out. Or any combination or position in between.
6 Most likely, the universe itself doesn't have a will of its own either way.
 
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So the face on Mars is perfectly on the old equator of Mars


There are ancient ruins of pyramids nearby…
It's not a face and no it isn't.
 
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I was thinking, people who leaves this planet, have personal problems, we can all admit to that, and can`t live in peace, so they want to see other races on other planets, but here`s the dilemma, if people with problems, could visit other races, wouldn`t they be disturbing them? Let`s say they live as natives, like we used to, in peace and harmony, us visiting them, would be disturbing, hence eventually, all life in the universe would feel bad from our problems, do you think the speed of light, is actually, final, so we can never disturb them, there`s talk about warping black matter and stuff, but they can`t actually prove it`s there, do you think it`s impossible to break the barrier of light, back to the dilemma again, wouldn`t it mean that the universe is a bad place if we can break it and reach other races? Planets are also moving away from us, faster and faster, so maybe the universe is a good place that wants us to be on our own planet?
Hmm. Now that you painted that picture, I just see, humans taking some weapons, and blasting away at the aliens, because they see them as a thread. Galactic genocide.
Not that I believe there are aliens.
 
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