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Do you think hell is on a literal planet?

Discussion in 'Spirit-Filled / Charismatic' started by Alpine, Feb 22, 2012.

  1. george baily

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    its in the center of the earth, the lake of fire is molten lava (Deuteronomy 32:22
     
  2. Theofane

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    Of course!
     
  3. Simon Peter

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    FTR: I think the molten core is probably symbolic, but if it is literal Hell, then we must consider that there's going to be a new Heaven and a new Earth. It sounds like the new Earth has a more eternal quality about it, which may mean they are not subject to the physical laws we are familiar with, like cooling.


    peace,
    Simon
     
  4. Faulty

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    Science also don't believe on the upcoming new heavens and new earth, nor do they believe in the power of God to sustain His creation, able to renew any star and planet at His whim.
     
  5. Humble Pie

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    In the end our bodies are resurrected so hell isn't a spiritual place., it must be a place to go to physically.
     
  6. Simon Peter

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    "I tell you, my friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body and after that can do no more.
    But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear him who, after the killing of the body, has power to throw you into hell. Yes, I tell you, fear him.
    Luke 12:4-5 (NIV) ​


    If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, he was thrown into the lake of fire.
    Revelation 20:15 (NIV) ​

    Hell is described as a place of torment and agony where the fire never goes out.


    In hell, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away,
    with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me
    and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue,
    because I am in agony in this fire.'
    Luke 16:23-24 (NIV) ​

    In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns
    gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion.
    They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.
    Jude 1:7(NIV)​


    4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment;
    5 if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
    6 if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
    2 Peter 2:4-6 (NIV)



    peace,
    Simon
     
    Last edited: Feb 23, 2012
  7. Ajax 777

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    Ah, but see, Jesus Himself spoke on Hell. Are you saying He was sin-filled? Not perfect? Not divine?

    Yet here, in your strange presumption, you (sin-filled, not divine, not perfect) sit, armed with your pridefulness and silly minutiae, believing yourself more "enlightened" in your understanding than pure faith in the Lord.

    Pardon me for taking offense, but I find your posturing and pontificating deeply insulting.



    Great. I'll be sure and file that little gem away. :doh:

    And the dish ran away with the spoon.

    I'll take God's words over your "facts" any day of the week.


    And for some, enough rope to hang themselves makes them think they are blessed with an abundance.

    To quote the learned physician, "Duh!"


    And may you learn to watch yours. "Professing to be wise, they became fools." Perhaps there is more to history than your "facts" have revealed, eh?
     
    Last edited: Jun 9, 2012
  8. Faulty

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    "Did God really say...?"

    Has a familiar ring to it.

    The NT books accepted can all be recreated from the writings of the 1st century authors, excluding about 14 verses of Mark. So, we know what the early church had, used, and believed, and what was not there.

    Now, of course, that Mark text which is missing from early 1st century writings is about to change: Gospel of Mark Fragments Reportedly Found; Possibly Oldest NT Artifacts, Christian News
     
  9. Prayer Circle

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    That is your free willed choice.

    However, I will not comport my opinion, nor the knowledge I've gleaned, as can anyone, from what is written on the subject of Hell by others, including Biblical Scholars, so as to pander to your weak sin filled sense of self righteousness and pride, in thinking I should.

    You're deeply insulted. Not my intent, of course. I don't know you.
    This thread asks, as does virtually all postings in a discussion forum such as this, for personal observations, opinions, information, if requested, on various subjects relative to the theme, etc...

    You don't approve of what I say.
    I don't care. :) The truth, the doctrine, the allegory, the "versions" , the Hebrew Sheol historic facts, do not need to comport to your sense of understanding what you need to understand in order to feel secure in what you think you know.


    As to the rest of your screed and attempt yet again at a personal insult toward me, which yet again fails :amen:, I have arrived at the decision that you are one who is very young for their age and very insecure.
    I do not tolerate verbal abuse, nor do I give it in return. Your sin will not feast in kind from me.

    God Bless your steps. :amen:
     
  10. Ajax 777

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    Well, I'm sorry you have learned to delude yourself so effectively.

    May the Lord remove your blinders with kindness and gentleness.
     
  11. Alpine

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    So much of what is the NT is quoted in the letters of the early church fathers (from the first couple centuries) that you could piece together a copy of the nt almost just from their letters alone. Besides the great amount of copies of transcripts that all are nearly identical to one another we should have confidence that the nt that we have is for the most part a pure copy from the original source.

    (edit -- just read faulty's similar argument :)
     
  12. Deba

    Deba The Lord is my shepherd I shall not want (period)

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    I think hell might be a literal place under the ocean.

    It seems maybe unclean spirits can't move through water (since they seem to prefer waterless places.)

    Matt 12:43 "Now when the unclean spirit goes out of a man, it passes through waterless places seeking rest, and does not find it.”

    Luke 11:24 "When the unclean spirit goes out of a man it passes through waterless places seeking rest, and not finding any, it says, 'I will return to my house from which I came.”

    Have you ever studied hydrothermal vents? Fascinating. Tubeworms and other organisms live in the superheated, toxic gas plumes.
    What is a hydrothermal vent?
     
    Last edited: Feb 25, 2012
  13. Alpine

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    interesting perspective
     
  14. melsray

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    wherever it may be,is it important?
     
  15. Deba

    Deba The Lord is my shepherd I shall not want (period)

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    No. But it is interesting to try and discover some of God's secrets that He has given us in the Bible to seek out. In this case, the journey is more instructive than the destination.
     
  16. Laura Phillips

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  17. Laura Phillips

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    Neptune? Mercury? Parts unknown?


    I would DEFINITELY vote for "parts unknown" as the specific location
     
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