Do You Believe In Literal Resurrection?

[MisterBlackEye]

Perhaps I was not clear. THe premis that the sun is intensely bright at sunset is incorrect.

Hmm... Not sure what sun you are looking at. As long as the sun is above the horizon it appears intensely bright.

Do you deny this?

Seems interesting how some people in these "science" forums deny things that are going on all the time in front of their eyes...

 

[MisterBlackEye]

It means that I was re-created from the DNA of a prehistoric hominid (Re-Creation with Modification), and not evolved from a prehistoric hominid (Descent with Modification).

Interesting...

Were you cloned?

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

But the question is why is the heat much less, but the light pretty much the same at the different angles?

Perhaps the longer wavelength, lower energy (infrared) rays are more easily absorbed/diffused by the atmosphere.

 

[MisterBlackEye]

Perhaps the longer wavelength, lower energy (infrared) rays are more easily absorbed/diffused by the atmosphere.

Ok I'm no geometry genius but I'm going to assume a couple things...

The world curves spherically going east or west and so does the atmosphere.

The point I'm trying to make is there is not really much extra atmosphere looking straight ahead compared to over head because it curves away looking straight ahead.

But the impact of the heat is much more strongly felt when the sun is over head than when its straight ahead even though the thickness of the atmosphere is almost the same looking both ways.

So I don't think the extra atmosphere filtration argument is the correct explanation.

 

[FrumiousBandersnatch]

The point I'm trying to make is there is not really much extra atmosphere looking straight ahead compared to over head because it curves away looking straight ahead.

That's incorrect. The atmospheric distance is significantly greater at sunrise or sunset. The curvature of the Earth (radius ~4,000 miles) is small compared to the depth of the atmosphere (~300 miles), so the difference in path length is more than 3 to 1.

My tentative earlier explanation was incorrect - according to ScienceBlogs, the shorter wavelengths are scattered more (Rayleigh scattering), leaving the longer, redder wavelengths, making the sun look red. But the difference in atmospheric distance travelled is sufficient to account for the difference in perceived heat.

 

[Colter]

In observing the online chatter in various Christian forums over time, I have come to see that many claim the body of Jesus Christ did literally die and then ressurect back to life.

If this is literally a true or accurate claim, then do you think resurrection is a faith based conversation or a science based conversation?

It seems to me, if the claim is accurate, the conversation should shift from faith to science.

I am interested what people here might have to say...

I expect the scientific types will deny ressurection is possible, and the religious types will deny any scientific discussion about resurrection is possible...

I wonder why this is the case...

The mortal body of Jesus didn't resurrect, rather the person of Jesus or Christ Michael, who returned in the form that man will resurrect in on the mansion worlds. Only the mortal body of Jesus died, it was dissolved, returned to the elements.


Returning in the new form, a higher form, Jesus now appears and disappears in plain sight. He appears in locked rooms speaks to all assembled and then vanishes. That's not a carbon based being.


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[AirPo]

Hmm... Not sure what sun you are looking at. As long as the sun is above the horizon it appears intensely bright.

Do you deny this?

Seems interesting how some people in these "science" forums deny things that are going on all the time in front of their eyes...

I don't deny it, it's wrong.

 

[AirPo]

Ok I'm no geometry genius but I'm going to assume a couple things...

The world curves spherically going east or west and so does the atmosphere.

The point I'm trying to make is there is not really much extra atmosphere looking straight ahead compared to over head because it curves away looking straight ahead.

But the impact of the heat is much more strongly felt when the sun is over head than when its straight ahead even though the thickness of the atmosphere is almost the same looking both ways.

So I don't think the extra atmosphere filtration argument is the correct explanation.

And the point is wrong.

 

[Doveaman]

Including events of supernatural origin or cause is an interesting definition of 'natural'...

I believe the natural universe is of supernatural origin.

God did it.

 

[Doveaman]

Interesting...

Were you cloned?

Yes, I believe Adam was cloned (with modifications) from a prehistoric hominid, just as Eve was cloned (with modifications) from Adam.

The DNA humans share with apes is evidence.

 

[Shard]

The mortal body of Jesus didn't resurrect, rather the person of Jesus or Christ Michael, who returned in the form that man will resurrect in on the mansion worlds. Only the mortal body of Jesus died, it was dissolved, returned to the elements.


Returning in the new form, a higher form, Jesus now appears and disappears in plain sight. He appears in locked rooms speaks to all assembled and then vanishes. That's not a carbon based being.


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Oh you're into some nutjob Urantia book stuff. No wonder all your posts are so woefully misinformed.

 

[Colter]

Oh you're into some nutjob Urantia book stuff. No wonder all your posts are so woefully misinformed.

Jesus’ own family thought he was a nut job.

 

[AV1611VET]

Jesus’ own family thought he was a nut job.

Until after the resurrection.

Then His half-brother wrote a book showing how you can spot a real Christian a mile away.

 

[Colter]

Until after the resurrection.

Then His half-brother wrote a book showing how you can spot a real Christian a mile away.

Who was Jesus' half brother?

Jesus said that "he who is not against us is with us". But you are Baptist, they may tend to overlook things in the Bible like that.

 

[AV1611VET]

Who was Jesus' half brother?

James

Jesus said that "he who is not against us is with us".

Does that include Urantians?

But you are Baptist, they may tend to overlook things in the Bible like that.

John the Baptist was a fundamental independent Baptist; and what did Jesus say of him?

Matthew 11:11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

 

[Colter]

James

Does that include Urantians?

John the Baptist was a fundamental independent Baptist; and what did Jesus say of him?

Matthew 11:11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.

Nonsence! John the Baptist would be horrified if he knew what happened to the original gospel of Jesus had he ever had a chance to learn it. He would have nothing to do with the science deniers in the denomination named in his honor.

 

[AV1611VET]

Nonsence! John the Baptist would be horrified if he knew what happened to the original gospel of Jesus had he ever had a chance to learn it. He would have nothing to do with the science deniers in the denomination named in his honor.

Meaning he would agree with Pandoria* today that Jesus was a great ape?

* My new word for the academic infrastructure of the world.

Colleges, universities, schools, users of the scientific method, cults, philosophies, etc.

Anything and everything that contradicts or ridicules the Bible.

 

[Colter]

Meaning he would agree with Pandoria* today that Jesus was a great ape?

* My new word for the academic infrastructure of the world.

Colleges, universities, schools, users of the scientific method, cults, philosophies, etc.

Anything and everything that contradicts or ridicules the Bible.

Anything that contradicts or ridicules the Bible??? That would included the Bible as it contradicts itself.

Anyway, let’s stick with the topic please.

 

[AV1611VET]

Anyway, let’s stick with the topic please.

So is/was Jesus a supernaphim?

 

[Colter]

So is/was Jesus a supernaphim?

No