Do you believe Bigfoot exists?

[wolfcub44]

I've heard some believe they're spirits and that's why no evidence is ever left behind. To be honest, that's almost more believable than it being a large physical creature who can apparently disappear in the blink of an eye.

they are so adapt at living in the woods that they can simply disappear in the woods and move ten times more gracefully and quickly than any man could. evidence you may never see or hear our government admit they have not only evidence, but that Bigfoot or Sasquatch or any version of these creatures exist. but the thing is that hundreds of Indian tribes all had seen these things and told white settlers to be watchful of them....LONG before modern day moron hoaxers ever were born or heard of Bigfoot. and it took a long while, for native Americans to trust the white man enough to even speak with them. and Moose can be very elusive animals to find on "moose" hunts, even though they are every bit the size of horses and larger....yet you may go your entire hunting season without seeing one, even if you hunt for three weeks. They are not mindless, stupid animals.
same could be said if your hunting elk or grizzly bears....they are good-sized animals to, doesn't mean you will ever see one even if your out there a month hunting. you might hear them....see where they have been, but there is no guarantee you will see one of these on your brief hunts.

 

[wolfcub44]

OK, here is what I found on Bigfoot in the bible (a google search) BTW.

Esau was the son of Isaac, and twin brother to Jacob. Isaac was the son of Abraham.

Before Esau and Jacob were born, it was prophesied that the elder shall serve the younger. The lord

told Rebekah that she was carrying twins; of two nations and two manner of people.

One shall be stronger than the other. When Esau was born, he came out red, like he was covered in a hairy garmet. Jacob came out next holding onto Esau's heel. Esau became a hunter while Jacob tended the fields. Isaac favored Esau, while Rebekah favored Jacob. In those days, the eldest son inherited everything from the father. When it was time for Esau to claim his inheritance, he was tricked out of it by Jacob, with the help of Rebekah. In order to "pass off" to his blind father-as his brother- Esau, he (Jacob) was covered in goats skin and hair. Then his mother helped him cook up some venison and lentils, how his father liked it. when he confronted his father, he pretended to be Esau and was claiming his birthright as his own.

Esau became angry and distraught over the news and cried or wailed to his father in a bitter cry-The same sound many claim to hear when confronted by Bigfoot.

Scholars believe that bigfoot is the human named Esau that took the bloodline, we call 'Bigfoot'.
Esau was a mountain dweller that ate meat and lentils, (THIS is very important)...he had a bitter cry, he had amazing strength , was tall and covered in hair with the awful smell of an ape.

Genesis 27:11, 22-27.
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[wolfcub44]

OK, here is what I found on Bigfoot in the bible (a google search) BTW.

Esau was the son of Isaac, and twin brother to Jacob. Isaac was the son of Abraham.

Before Esau and Jacob were born, it was prophesied that the elder shall serve the younger. The lord

told Rebekah that she was carrying twins; of two nations and two manner of people.

One shall be stronger than the other. When Esau was born, he came out red, like he was covered in a hairy garmet. Jacob came out next holding onto Esau's heel. Esau became a hunter while Jacob tended the fields. Isaac favored Esau, while Rebekah favored Jacob. In those days, the eldest son inherited everything from the father. When it was time for Esau to claim his inheritance, he was tricked out of it by Jacob, with the help of Rebekah. In order to "pass off" to his blind father-as his brother- Esau, he (Jacob) was covered in goats skin and hair. Then his mother helped him cook up some venison and lentils, how his father liked it. when he confronted his father, he pretended to be Esau and was claiming his birthright as his own.

Esau became angry and distraught over the news and cried or wailed to his father in a bitter cry-The same sound many claim to hear when confronted by Bigfoot.

Scholars believe that bigfoot is the human named Esau that took the bloodline, we call 'Bigfoot'.
Esau was a mountain dweller that ate meat and lentils, (THIS is very important)...he had a bitter cry, he had amazing strength , was tall and covered in hair with the awful smell of an ape.

Genesis 27:11, 22-27. this off a simple google search "is bigfoot in the bible" if you look for ESAU

long enough in the search results...you'll find this .
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[Rubiks]

No such thing.

I like pi too.

 

[SweetlyBroken97]

I don't believe bigfoot exists, no. Here's why

 

[wolfcub44]

The thing is, a silver back uses his hand for daily activities such as walking around. They do not stand tall like man. Man stands tall to reach for the light of the heavens. Silver backs do not go to heaven. Bigfoot is a lie to convince you to keep your head down in the darkness of sin, and imaginary beasts of a foul nature. The other creatures you posted are Gods way of protecting them from other godly creatures. Bigfoot is not a Godly creature, hence he is a lie.

well the story of Easu in the book of Gen might change your opinion....though seems you've already made up your mind.
let alone the fact that Bigfoot/Sasquatch creatures have been talked about for decades before white-settlers reached the Americas, we learned of them from Native American Tribes and Indians -as we know them- learned of hairy Bi-pedal /man-like creatures from the people before them. Bigfoot creatures have been reported in every state across the US, except Hawaii.

and very few scientists make any effort of doing research in the fields, swamps, mountains, forests, or countries. the evidence that has been brought fourth, turned away, dismissed outright, and swept under the rug because they work with our government who will probably never admit these creatures exist. therefore, very little or next to no "evidence" "exists"....because they say so. and that is why we don't ever hear of it. In reality the things they -know of- would scare you half to death, and would cause, world-wide panic...even revolt.

 

[wolfcub44]

No such thing.

I like pi too.

we're in America Spanky....learn the language....

 

[Rubiks]

If a gorilla were to walk upright, would that be considered bigfoot?

 

[wolfcub44]

Just wondering, Austin and I were watching Animal Planet and found a show called "Finding Bigfoot"...

Do you think Bigfoot exists?
Do you think it's just stupid?

If so, why do you believe or why not?

Are you open to the possibility of Bigfoot existing?

what nails the point home for me that Bigfoot, Sasquatich, Yeti, Skookum, Grassmen, Wild Men , Yowie, exists....is, that these creatures have been reported long before "hoaxers" as we know them were thought of. The fact that every American Indian tribe across the United States has some kind of name for them...even if it is , just Bigfoot , the fact that there are cave drawings of these creatures, that mounds of evidence HAS been reported by every man, woman, or child of every profession.
The Bob Gimlin film was said to be a fake and a hoax, "supposedly" Bob Gimlin admitted he faked the encounter. BUT not one expert can find absolute proof, it's not a man in a suit...they cannot prove it
and the film has been studied so MUCH over the years, that it is nearly ruined.

we have used every modern technology to try to discredit that film and have failed to just discredit
it. To me, that means it is a real creature....OR they would have easily done so -decades ago.

police, military and ex military individuals, park rangers, Doctors, Hunters, veterinarians , former Presidents (Roosevelt) , Biologists, Anthropologists, local Indians, Farmers, .....you name the profession and they have given the same reports of hairy, upright, bipedal, tall creatures...to this day. they are not JUST a United States phenomena, as such creatures have been reported in , Germany, Russia, Viet- Nam, The Himalayas, China, Australia, Indonesia, and half a dozen others.
yeah there are "foolish" hoaxers out there , but are whole countries and nations wrong?

 

[wolfcub44]

If a gorilla were to walk upright, would that be considered bigfoot?

um, no....one can tell a distinct difference between a Gorilla and a Bigfoot just looking ....but I will say if your in the woods and seen this, it 'could' be -mistaken for a juvenile Bigfoot...in the right setting easily. problem is that wild Gorillas...natural habitat isn't in the United States....so it would have to be an escaped "pet" or zoo animal....here. though they usually live African Jungles....like the Congo....and yes that is a real place.

 

[wolfcub44]

I don't believe bigfoot exists, no. Here's why

oh yeah she looks like the type to go searching for bigfoot or like creatures....I bet she never tried , yet hundreds of new species and YES even new cultures and upright walking mammals like homo-flourences was discovered not so many years ago. Bigfoot have been recorded in the wild back in the days of Leif Erickson and there are cave drawings of these creatures you can see today.... so forgive me if I don't just accept anything his woman claims.

nevermind the fact that Bigfoot-like creatures have been recorded on every country and state around the world except Hawaii....over decades and sightings made people of any profession. and by races of humans that came long before white settlers ever reached the Americas.

 

[wolfcub44]

Yes, I totally believe in a creature who has never turned up a body, produced any offspring, exposed a nesting site, been caught in a steady and reliable video, or left behind hair and bone samples. Totally believable.

I don't doubt that people have seen or heard strange things out in the woods. I just find it heard to believe that no one has ever shot one, been killed by one, or managed to turn up solid physical evidence. Shaky video, blurry photos, and eyewitness accounts just don't cut it anymore. Until a real body turns up I will always be highly skeptical that such a large creature could remind unnoticed for decades without leaving a single trace behind.

we don't know that NOBODY hasn't been killed by one...how is it going to be reported? and you cannot shoot one...it is against the law and they will arrest you and charge you as if you commited manslaughter or murder...now they are NOT going to sensationalize it and plaster it all over the news if/when it happens because according to our government and the scientific community "largely", they do not exist...right? Why no evidence?? who is going to except it and put their lives and careers in jeopardy by saying with authority (THIS evidence is real)? Scientists have been threatened, had to sign pages of papers that they promise to refute all evidence of Aliens, Bigfoot and other cryptids. THAT is why you NEVER see scientists showing off ANY of the tons of items that has been submitted over decades...you don't see them standing behind podiums or out in public or on the news talking about ALL the evidence they collected OR making direct comments that these things exist THOUGH Bigfoot dates back to the days of cave drawings, the bible, before ANY civilized man. EVERY native American tribe you can name has different names for Bigfoot, and Bigfoot-like creatures of all sizes have been reported on every land mass and country except Hawaii.

guess what a cave never seen before in the history of mankind was just discovered, the mouth of the cave is nearly 100 foot tall...yet it went unnoticed for centuries..because it was covered by jungle foliage too thick for our technology to locate...it is located in Mongolia -I believe.

for another thing, ONLY a select few Biologist, Zoologist's, anthropologists, or other expert, DR's, Scientist's involve themselves at hunting, searching, study, research, of Bigfoot . They don't go out stomping the wilds, the swamps, mountains, forests's, swampland, state parks, ravines, caves, or any thing else. because they get paid to sit in air-conditioned classrooms, labs, offices, and schools.

You do know that if you took a horse freshly killed and staked it down out in a field, in two or three weeks time....you wouldn't recognize it as the animal you knew it as. WHY? well because decomposition, bears, wolves, cougars, birds, insects, weather, rain , wind all tears at it day and night....even carry off body parts. you put that same horse in the forest....to rot? IT will degrade quite a bit faster...why?
well thee animals are more concentrated, they are not afraid to visit the kill-site more, higher numbers of predators will feed, and the forest breaks down body material at a faster rate.

Bigfoot has been recorded incredibly long before there were the "hoaxers" you have and know today...ALL of them.

you can always find people to disagree with your beliefs.

 

[wolfcub44]

As a single entity that has existed prior to 1958 and in some form or other all the way back to the late 1800's? Not a chance.

As a race of giants? Very unlikely we'd still in be in the dark about them if they did exist and had some contact (albeit limited) with humans.

So no to sole entity or undiscovered race.

they have discovered new primates and other creatures at a steady pace....as for a few years now, homoflouences however you spell it, was discovered not all that long ago they were a small race of hairy people they had a documentary on it I want to say in 2014 or 2015.

Gigantopithecus were are race of hairy ape-like Giants that really existed, they have skulls and teeth and other things to prove it...and have proven it .

Bigfoot-like creatures are said to be very intelligent and there are about 20 different names of Native -American/Indian names for these creatures, reported in every state except Hawaii...and throughout several countries. Look in the bible at the story of Esau...it speaks of brothers born of two nations
It's in Genesis.

Presidents have written about encounters with wild men....namely Theodore Roosevelt...in his journal.
Thee explorer Leif Erikson reported them. over the decades, tons of evidence was turned in to the Scientific Community, though they refute all the evidence because our Government has instructed them to do so.
Our same Government has Laws on hunting Bigfoot as you wood a deer or other wildlife and against shooting them. I can go on and on. but the fact is these creatures were sighted and reported decades before there were hoaxers as we commonly know them.
you can find anybody to disagree with your beliefs.
but the majority of scientists don't go combing the woods, swamps, mountains, or anything else looking and will NEVER go public and admit they exist OR our Government will make sure they don't talk again. These things don't want to be found and are intelligent, we only see them when we journey into their territory OR they come close enough to one's property or some other public area to BE seen, because they are curious ...and just like Bears or other primates will take food from people...even if it's pets or livestock. but largely, they have enough food resources....that they don't 'NEED' to kill or attack people. They try to use scare-tactics first...growling, roaring, throwing rocks, knocking over trees, bull-rushing , that kind of thing. but they are curious and monitor our actions.

 

[wolfcub44]

Nope.

As cool as Big Foot, Loch Ness Monster, Santa and the Easter Bunny would be- none of them are real or will ever be real.

There are unexplainable things in this world but large creatures that have interacted with humans but never been proven with even a shred of evidence? Doubtful.

you know WHY there is "no evidence" because over decades of people turning in evidence , Scientist's turn it all away. Now ask yourself why? to me it's easy, our Government employs these Scientist's. Our Government does not want people to keep seriously "pushing their luck" searching for and bringing fourth things that COULD prove Aliens or Bigfoot exists....they have threatened the lives of civillians that have 'ventured too far' their families, I'm sure they -got rid of- more than a few persons over time for certain actions , WITH them vehemently trying to prove Aliens exist.

Some say that Bigfoot is some sort of alien....it's a theory out there. Scientist's were threatened and even had to sign certain documents 'to keep quiet' about such things. and do you think that our Government would 'allow' some number of scientist's to come forward, get on the news, in front of media and show the most convincing of the evidence brought by Bigfoot researchers, hunters, trackers, groups over the last 60+ years?? NO! you don't see that...and you won't.

Because IF Bigfoot is proven real (which it is), what else has our Government covered-up or lied about???? that's why you don't see people rushing to the set showing YOU the proof.
The Scientist's have been instructed to say the evidence is ANYTHING else...even common ordinary things.....than either aliens or Bigfoot.

Bigfoot reports go back to the stone age...there are cave drawings...some of which were early man, and some Native American Indians. Decades before European settlers or hoaxers that you think of today. Mankind "likes" to think we have everything figured out and we're so smart, yet we destroy everything we touch. They haven't been in every stretch of land on this planet, and are ignorant of it. They have only explored10% of our oceans...which we're destroying with our waste and pollutants. AND very few Scientists', Biologist's, Anthropologist's and that research Bigfoot OR actively go hunt for these creatures. They stay in their air-conditioned classrooms, labs, offices, buildings doing their ordinary routines and collecting a paycheck.
They don't comb the forests, mountains, swamps, parks, ravines, fields, waterways, or anything else. the vast majority. many of them work for our government on their projects. Yet Bigfoot and like creatures have been reported all across the globe and in every state, except Hawaii.

 

[wolfcub44]

Nope.

As cool as Big Foot, Loch Ness Monster, Santa and the Easter Bunny would be- none of them are real or will ever be real.

There are unexplainable things in this world but large creatures that have interacted with humans but never been proven with even a shred of evidence? Doubtful.

Off a simple internet search: 'indian names for bigfoot.' I found a chart filled with tribal names , the name they actually call bigfoot creatures, AND the meaning of those names.
I jotted down -several- but there were dozens more. here...
1. Zuni At'ahsia 'cannibal'

2. Chinook At'at'ahia 'Bush Man'

3. Kwakwaka'wak Bukwas 'wild man of the woods.'

4. Dakota(east) Sioux Chihatanka 'Big elder brother.'

5. Bella Coola Bogs 'Bushman'

6. Lakota(west) Sioux Chiye tanka. 'Big elder'

7. Wenatche Choanito 'night people.'

8. Seminole Esti Capcaki 'Tall man'

9. Iroquois/Seneca Ge-no- sqwa ' stone coats'

10. Nelchina Plateau Gilyuk 'Big man little hat'

11. Quinault He cait omixu 'dangerous being'

12. Plains Indians Iktomi 'trickster'

13. Cherokee Kecleh- Kudleh 'hairy savage'

14. Tlingit Indian Kushtaka 'otter man'

15. Hare Indian Lariyin 'Bush man'

16. Karok Indian Madukarahat 'giant'

17. Menomini Manabai' wok ' the giants'

18. Lenni Lenape Mesingew ' the mask being'

19. Gwich' in Na'in 'Brush man'

20. Hoopa Oh Mah 'boss of the woods'

21. Navajo Ye'iit soh 'Big God

These are not in order...and I can name 30 more, point is , Bigfoot was extremely well known throughout Native American Indian tribes that spread out across the US.

they were informed of Bigfoot by the people before them and other encounters or occurances in their lives. Not every one of them were just making up some imaginary, mythical creatures.

the people tried to record and draw what they saw, and told white settlers in-passing of these things, and to be wary of them.
these sightings and reports continue today, not all are factual Bigfoot things, but BS hoaxes....this is our world, make a buck, be seen, get heard, give me attention. YET most were actual encounters.

OR bigfoot would be long forgotten...already proven to be a hoax and myth. problem is....you cannot prove it doesn't exist. the Gimlin film , has never been proven a hoax.....and is almost destroyed by people trying their best to do that, they cannot and haven't.

 

[wolfcub44]

Some "sightings" were just because people heard strange noises. If they can't identify it, it's bigfoot.

you get that, the woods and forests can be soothing ,warm, and beautiful & they can be extremely dangerous, extremely scary , life-threatening, and foreboding. things CAN happen to you to make you never go in the woods again. their are lots of animals that can and will kill you , and you are NEVER alone in the forests. Bad enough that you can slip and fall and die, trees can fall on you and kill you, you can break your bones, impale yourself on sharp sticks, get lost and die , step into bottomless water puddles and die, starve to death, freeze to death, and that isn't counting being surrounded by wolves, mountain lions, black & brown bears, elk, moose, poisonous snakes, and plants. More people die from Moose attacks than any other animal in the woods...and no Bigfoot has been reported in every state except Hawaii...and other countries for decades...so when sticks and twigs snap...people CAN think 'Bigfoot' -absolutely, but you better be watching for something...or it may cost you your life.

 

[wolfcub44]

I've heard some believe they're spirits and that's why no evidence is ever left behind. To be honest, that's almost more believable than it being a large physical creature who can apparently disappear in the blink of an eye.

you are right , I mean they are flesh and blood creatures, or they couldn't throw rocks, kill deer and things, leave footprints/tracks , knock on trees, pull trees out of the ground and drive them back into the ground top-first (been seen many times...marks their territory) , or carry off pigs, chickens, and household pets. As far as them just disappearing.....they are masters of the forests, they know them just as well as deer or other animals, that is like the back of their hand. IF they want to hide very quickly--they know exactly how, and know how to escape. They don't want to encounter humans, and try their best to keep it that way. WE only see them when we enter their habitat...the 'right' area of woods, swamps , mountains and their environment OR, when they are on the move across our roads , parks, our property , our homes and that. They are curious we help provide them with A food -source as we raise farm animals, have pets, grow gardens , throw out trash and food scraps , and they 'keep tabs on us' sometimes...watching us work outside and play and sometimes we see them.

 

[wolfcub44]

Indeed. Eye-witness accounts are often unreliable. Ten people can witness an event and all ten can have a different interpretation or experience. The power of suggestion is strong: if you tell people that Bigfoot is out there then they're bound to see it or believe it at some point. The mind is good at picking up on that.

you are right as well, people act goofy, immaturely, ignorantly, they love to be right, love to argue and fight, if they are hoaxers, or non-believers , they think the notion of Bigfoot is stupid or ridiculous , or don't spend time in the woods.....then anything can be a monster, a killer bear, a bigfoot, they can see moss and swear it's bigfoot hair, and If one girl says " I saw eyes!" "they were this big and yellow or red." other people she is with probably will say they saw it too and embellish/build upon the story.
But if you put 10 different people in a classroom...have them watch a short film....for example about a guy and a girl having a relationship problem. They are ALL going to have different opinions of who said what, what they were wearing, who was right ...who was wrong, different opinions about what happened first, or what THEY 'would-have done'.

same if you showed them a movie and TOLD them to pay attention, and they showed them colored circles , numbers, and letters...something simple, and seconds after turning it off ask the class to remember, what color circle came first...or what number or letter 'A' circle had.....very few are going to GET IT RIGHT and remember what they saw...EVEN if there are only 6 circles with a letter and number and color to it.

So out in the woods...it's the same thing "usually." BUT if you have a life threatening experience with a bear, a wolf, a mountain lion, a moose OR a bigfoot...you ARE going to remember IT.

your going to remember seeing these things, AND what occurred usually to.