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[Handmaid for Jesus]

Some Americans, even some Christians are infatuated by Vladimir Putin. Check out this video.

 

[Original Happy Camper]

I think you should consider modifying your statement to .... prophecy fulfilled is history...... as all history was not given in prophecy.

ok you are correct consider it changed

 

[Original Happy Camper]

the last week of the 70 week decree.

The teaching on the last week that it is at the end of time is not biblical. No other time prophecy has such a gap in it. Jesus Christ is consistant and he is the giver by inspiration of the Holy Spirt of all biblical prophecy.

The last week of the prophcy Seventy weeks are determined upon my people came to a close in 34 ad when the gospel went to the Gentiles. The week started with Christs baptism. He was cut off (Crucified) in the midst of the week causeing the sacrifice system to cease.

Why would you attribute a prophecy that Christ fulfiled to the ant-christ?

 

[football5680]

Okay, so you know that Graham doesn't believe that Obama is responsible for ISIS, right? BUT, you don't know that ISIS was started in Iraq and grew when Saddam's people came after the fall of Iraq. They were responsible for the 2003 insurgency in Iraq and joined with Al Qaeda.

I would say Obama is more responsible for ISIS. His policies and decisions allowed them fertile grounds to grow into what they were at their height. Obviously without Bush's terrible decision to invade, Obama wouldn't have been in the same position but the decisions he made allowed them to grow rapidly.

 

[Revealing Times]

Okay, so you know that Graham doesn't believe that Obama is responsible for ISIS, right? BUT, you don't know that ISIS was started in Iraq and grew when Saddam's people came after the fall of Iraq. They were responsible for the 2003 insurgency in Iraq and joined with Al Qaeda.

Obama started ISIS by allowing them to roll over the desert without responding to them. Trump had ISIS

 

[Revealing Times]

The teaching on the last week that it is at the end of time is not biblical. No other time prophecy has such a gap in it. Jesus Christ is consistant and he is the giver by inspiration of the Holy Spirt of all biblical prophecy.

The last week of the prophcy Seventy weeks are determined upon my people came to a close in 34 ad when the gospel went to the Gentiles. The week started with Christs baptism. He was cut off (Crucified) in the midst of the week causeing the sacrifice system to cease.

Why would you attribute a prophecy that Christ fulfiled to the ant-christ?

Everyone of the End Time Prophecies concerning Israel has a GAP in it, you have just not looked for it. Its rather obvious when you do, the Holy Spirit has given me this insight and I am thankful for it.

Look at the Statue of Daniel 2, it goes from the Iron Legs of Rome (JUMP/SKIP) to the END TIMES 10 Toes mixed with Clay. WHY?

Look at the Beasts of Daniel 7, it goes from the Fourth Beast (Rome) to the END TIMES Little Horn and his 10 Kings (JUMP/SKIP/2000 Years). WHY?

Look at the 70 Week Decree. It was nor ONE PROPHECY of 490 Years, it was THREE PROPHESIES of 7 x 7, 62 x 7 and finally 1 x 7. Jesus was CUT OFF after the 7 and 62 were fulfilled leaving ONE WEEK to be fulfilled in order to bring Israel unto Repentance. BUT WHY?

Because the Church Age has arrived, God has turned His back on Israel because of their Sins which ultimately led them to reject Jesus Christ their Messiah, from that point on God saw them a Dead Men's Bones (Ezekiel's Prophecy of Dry Bones) thus Israel was NO MORE, she was Dead unto God. But Ezekiel prophesied that God would one day REVIVE those Dry Bones and in 1948 God brought Israel back to life. (Son of man, can these bones live, Though knowest oh Lord).

So now we understand Paul's uttering in Romans better, Israel is blind IN PART until the time of the Gentiles (Church Age) be come in (Rapture), then of course Israel will SEE AGAIN, they will repent just as the 70 Week Decree says they MUST DO before the 70th week passes.

Now all the SKIPS make sense !! The Statue is a Statue that spans Israels true LIFE-SPAN, from Babylon to Rome............then the 10 Toes and Clay. FULL PICTURE.

The Beasts are now understood, by using Rev. 13 we can add in two more. Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, Greece (5 Have Fallen) ROME (One is) and the Anti-Christ who is YET TO COME. Rome ceased being a BEAST when Israel was dispersed all over he World circa 70 AD To 125 AD. Thus the Mortal Wound. The Little Horn Anti-Christ shows up, and when he Conquers Jerusalem the Mortal Wound is HEALED !! The FIGURATIVE BEAST LIVES........AGAIN.

The 70th Week is easy to understand when looked at in the light that Israel was seen by God as DEAD from 70 AD-125 AD until 1948.

 

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[Yarddog]

Obama started ISIS by allowing them to roll over the desert without responding to them. Trump had ISIS

Bush is the one who set the pull out date of US troops in Iraq, not Obama. The Iraqis wanted us to leave as well and Obama had to abide by that agreement. The Iraqi army was not prepared for what ISIL brought them and it was this that allowed them to gain control.

Obama was doing everything he could to help the Kurds and Free Syrian Army to fight both ISIL, Al Qaeda, and the Assad though he faced constant criticism from Conservatives in Congress.

Trump wanted to help Assad and the Russians fight the FSA and the Kurds until the gas attack and guess who his military wanted him to do? What Obama was doing and the FDA and Kurds are the ones who defeated ISIS along with help from Americans

I would say Obama is more responsible for ISIS. His policies and decisions allowed them fertile grounds to grow into what they were at their height. Obviously without Bush's terrible decision to invade, Obama wouldn't have been in the same position but the decisions he made allowed them to grow rapidly.

Read my last post. Bush set the time table for American withdraw, not Obama. ISIL was made up largely of Saddam's old guard. If Bush would have stayed out of Iraq, there is a good chance none of this would have happened and the US military could have focused on Afghanistan instead of losing so much man power to Iraq.

 

[Revealing Times]

Bush is the one who set the pull out date of US troops in Iraq, not Obama. The Iraqis wanted us to leave as well and Obama had to abide by that agreement. The Iraqi army was not prepared for what ISIL brought them and it was this that allowed them to gain control.

The "PULL OUT DATE" Means nothing, you then get an agreement for a leave behind force, called a Status of forces. Obama wanted to pull out because hes an Anti-american type of guy. Just read is books, LOL. Obama was no count and weak. Obama set up a TERRORIST GROUP in charge in Egypt called the Muslim Brotherhood, he brought about ISIS by overthrowing Governments he had no authority to overthrow. Egypt, Libya and even Syria.

Obama was doing everything he could to help the Kurds and Free Syrian Army to fight both ISIL, Al Qaeda, and the Assad though he faced constant criticism from Conservatives in Congress.

The Free Syrian Army is in a Civil War with their own Gov. they have many Al qada leaders and ISIS leaders amongst them, STAY OUT of their Civil Wars. As per the Kurds, that needs to be settled by the U.N. we can't just decide who we want to give land to without a consensus.

Trump wanted to help Assad and the Russians fight the FSA and the Kurds until the gas attack and guess who his military wanted him to do? What Obama was doing and the FDA and Kurds are the ones who defeated ISIS along with help from Americans

Trump understands that ISIS is our enemy, not Assad per se or Russia per se. The War was started because of a disagreement on a PIPELINE to be run through Syria. Its never what it seems, there was big money to be made so follow the money. I keep up with this stuff. Google TWO COMPETING PIPELINES Syria. Hillary and Obama sold our Uranium to Putin = Treason.

 

[football5680]

Obama was doing everything he could to help the Kurds and Free Syrian Army to fight both ISIL, Al Qaeda, and the Assad though he faced constant criticism from Conservatives in Congress.

None of the rebels should have received any aid because this is what allowed ISIS to rise. I didn't agree with Republican criticism of Obama because people like McCain wanted to arm the terrorists as well just like Obama did. They were basically objecting for the sake of objecting because they saw how bad things were going but they would have done the exact same thing. They are Neocons and honestly, Bush would have probably done the same thing but Obama is president so he gets the blame. The Kurds are a separate issue because they are pretty indifferent towards Assad and just want to protect their own territory so I wouldn't object to aiding them.

Trump wanted to help Assad and the Russians fight the FSA and the Kurds until the gas attack and guess who his military wanted him to do? What Obama was doing and the FDA and Kurds are the ones who defeated ISIS along with help from Americans

The FSA hasn't existed as a legitimate group for several years so you need to get caught up with the times. The "moderates" Obama was trying to push never existed or were too small to make any legitimate difference. Trump never wanted to fight the Kurds and I agreed with what he said during the campaign about supporting Russia and Assad. The Kurds and Assad are the ones who defeated ISIS, and the US for a long time made this task as difficult as possible until very recently.

If Bush would have stayed out of Iraq, there is a good chance none of this would have happened and the US military could have focused on Afghanistan instead of losing so much man power to Iraq.

I agree with the Iraq statement but manpower has never been an issue for us so that would be irrelevant. We shouldn't have invaded Afghanistan to begin with and the Taliban are stronger today than they were when we first invaded. The war cannot be won and we should admit we made a mistake and wipe our hands of the situation as difficult as that may be. The only other option is to have 100,000 troops stationed there for decades but unless we are planning to annex them, this makes no sense.

 

[Original Happy Camper]

Look at the Beasts of Daniel 7, it goes from the Fourth Beast (Rome) to the END TIMES Little Horn and his 10 Kings (JUMP/SKIP/2000 Years). WHY?

History says you are mistaken.

Daniel 7:8King James Version (KJV)
8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

"Three of the ten kingdoms were to be destroyed by the instigation of the little horn power. Only the Papacy fits this description. Three kingdoms that did not accept the papal mandates regarding Christ's divinity were literally uprooted and mercilessly destroyed. Although the doctrine of the divinity of Christ was correct, the method of dealing with it was not.

Since the little horn made its appearance after the subdivision of Rome into ten different states (after 476 AD) but before the destruction of three of them because it arises among all ten, we now have a very definite timeframe for the rise of the Antichrist power. The Heruli, Vandals, and Ostrogoths were eliminated by the year 538 AD. This power was to arise between 476 AD and 538 AD.

These conquests strengthened the hand of the Papacy, which was established by the year 538 AD. In that year, Vigilus, the bishop of Rome, ascended the papal throne under the protection of the Roman general Belisarius. The date for the establishment of papal Rome as an independent power can thus be pinned at 538 AD."

It was to uproot three horns - Heruli, Vandals and Ostrogoths


list of the 10 Kingdoms after the fall of the Roman Empire

TRIBE/NATIONALITY Alemanni/Germans, Burgundians/Swiss, Franks/French, Lombards/ Italians, Anglo-Saxon/English, Suevi/Portuguese, Visigoths/Spanish, Heruli Extinct, Vandals Extinct, Ostrogoths Extinct.

History fulfills prophecy once again

 

[Original Happy Camper]

Jesus was CUT OFF after the 7 and 62

Notice
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks:

This prophecy is about the Lord JESUS CHRIST not the anti-christ

It says he was cut off after the 69 weeks.

Daniel 9:26
And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off,

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease

Commentary
9:20-23 This is a continuation of the vision in chapter 8, most of which was already explained to Daniel. The only thing that was not interpreted for him was chapter 8:13-14—the section on the 2300 days and the cleansing of the sanctuary.

In this chapter Gabriel tells him about a period of 490 years concerning the Messiah, the Jewish nation, and the temple. Daniel also receives a significant clue that allows us to pinpoint the beginning of both this 490 year period and the 2300 year prophecy.

9:24 A portion of the 2300 year time period has been set aside for the Jews and Jerusalem. This verse groups the first three items, and links them with the second trio:

1. “to finish the transgression”
2. “to make an end of [seal] sins”
3. “to make reconciliation for iniquity”

1. “to bring in everlasting righteousness”
2. “to seal up the vision and prophecy”
3. “to anoint the most holy”

In the first trio God deals with all sins by His sacrificial death and glorious resurrection within this seventy-week period. The second group reveals that Christ’s death and resurrection accomplishes everlasting righteousness, confirms the vision’s authenticity, and anoints the heavenly sanctuary for use.

9:25-27 These verses outline events to take place during the seventy weeks; they also have a definite structure of two groups of three.

1. “unto the Messiah the Prince”
2. “shall Messiah be cut off”
3. “shall cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease”

1. “the street shall be built again, and the wall”
2. “shall destroy the city and the sanctuary”
3. “and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate”

The first group concerns the Messiah, and takes place within the seventy week time period. The second trio concerns Jerusalem and an opposing prince, and is not limited to the seventy weeks.

 

[Revealing Times]

History says you are mistaken.

History says no such thing, you just do not understand the prophecy sir.

8 I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

"Three of the ten kingdoms were to be destroyed by the instigation of the little horn power. Only the Papacy fits this description. Three kingdoms that did not accept the papal mandates regarding Christ's divinity were literally uprooted and mercilessly destroyed. Although the doctrine of the divinity of Christ was correct, the method of dealing with it was not.

Since the little horn made its appearance after the subdivision of Rome into ten different states (after 476 AD) but before the destruction of three of them because it arises among all ten, we now have a very definite timeframe for the rise of the Antichrist power. The Heruli, Vandals, and Ostrogoths were eliminated by the year 538 AD. This power was to arise between 476 AD and 538 AD.

These conquests strengthened the hand of the Papacy, which was established by the year 538 AD. In that year, Vigilus, the bishop of Rome, ascended the papal throne under the protection of the Roman general Belisarius. The date for the establishment of papal Rome as an independent power can thus be pinned at 538 AD."

Deception..................Deceived. Listen very closely and you might get it.

Daniel 7:7 After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast (Rome), dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts (Like verse 3 says, they all wee DIFFERENT from each other) that were before it;.................. and it had ten horns. {{Notice that Rome's Conquering and Breaking into is mentioned BEFORE the 10 Horns are ever mentioned, if you are an OBSERVER of facts there is a reason for this, they are CLEARLY END TIME KINGS if we learn to PAY ATTENTION to facts !! }}

8 I considered the horns (2000 years LATER Proof is in the SCRIPTURES), and, behold, there came up among them another little horn (Anti-Christ arises just after they ARISE), before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots (Three of the European Kings will SEE the Anti-Christ for the evil tyrant he is and seek to leave the Union, and they will be KILLED): and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth (Human Being/BEAST) speaking great things.

9 I beheld till the thrones were cast down, and the Ancient of days did sit (JESUS CHRIST), whose garment was white as snow, and the hair of his head like the pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as burning fire.

10 A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him: thousand thousands ministered unto him, and ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him: the judgment was set (END TIME EVENT), and the books were opened.

11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: (End Time BEAST) I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame (Cast into hell, see Revelation 19:20).....Rev. 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone (BURNING FLAME).


12 As concerning the rest of the beasts (Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome), they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time. {{ Babylon, Persia, Greece and Rome ALL lost their Dominion/Powers but yet lived for a time and a season, but the Little Horn/Human BEAST/Anti-Christ will be killed and cast into hell STRAIGHT AWAY. So Babylon lost its power, yet it remained for a SEASON (Alexander the Great died there) but Babylon became the one Great Beast that vanished forever, like the bible stated it would, Persia (Iran) Greece and Rome are still here but TOOTHLESS. }}

So you wanting to make these 10 Kings ones that arise with the "PAPACY" is just not factual, its a lie from Satan in my opinion. I am showing you scriptures that say the Beast is an END TIME BEAST and he arises just after the 10 Horns/Kings arise. There are scriptures in Rev. ch. 17 that say this also, I will post below.

Rev. 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet (By the END TIMES); but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

So how can you not get that? Its simple enough for a 5th grader to understand, the 10 KINGS are END TIME KINGS who receive Power with the END TIME BEAST for ONE HOUR (Short Time Period). Its not even debatable in reality brother. Notice the 10 KINGS are still 10 Kings when they receive POWER with the Anti-Christ. Then he defeats three of them, all of this Saxons, Vandals etc. is pure fiction. This one sentence below that you posted TELLS YOU THAT !!

The Heruli, Vandals, and Ostrogoths were eliminated by the year 538 AD. This power was to arise between 476 AD and 538 AD. {{ NOW Lets look at FACTS !! }}

Rev. 17:12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet (By the END TIMES); but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

The 10 Kings receive power with the END TIME Anti-Christ yet you have three of them as DEAD before the Anti-Christ is even born. Wake up man. Satan seduces us with half truths or outright lies unless we are vigilant, Jesus warned us about this, as did Paul and Peter. Hes a wolf in sheep's clothing, hes a liar and never ceases lying.

The Little Horn is a MAN/Beast, not the Papacy.

 

[Revealing Times]

Notice
25 Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and threescore and two weeks:

This prophecy is about the Lord JESUS CHRIST not the anti-christ

It says he was cut off after the 69 weeks.

Daniel 9:26
And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off,

27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease

Commentary
9:20-23 This is a continuation of the vision in chapter 8, most of which was already explained to Daniel. The only thing that was not interpreted for him was chapter 8:13-14—the section on the 2300 days and the cleansing of the sanctuary.

In this chapter Gabriel tells him about a period of 490 years concerning the Messiah, the Jewish nation, and the temple. Daniel also receives a significant clue that allows us to pinpoint the beginning of both this 490 year period and the 2300 year prophecy.

9:24 A portion of the 2300 year time period has been set aside for the Jews and Jerusalem. This verse groups the first three items, and links them with the second trio:

1. “to finish the transgression”
2. “to make an end of [seal] sins”
3. “to make reconciliation for iniquity”

1. “to bring in everlasting righteousness”
2. “to seal up the vision and prophecy”
3. “to anoint the most holy”

In the first trio God deals with all sins by His sacrificial death and glorious resurrection within this seventy-week period. The second group reveals that Christ’s death and resurrection accomplishes everlasting righteousness, confirms the vision’s authenticity, and anoints the heavenly sanctuary for use.

9:25-27 These verses outline events to take place during the seventy weeks; they also have a definite structure of two groups of three.

1. “unto the Messiah the Prince”
2. “shall Messiah be cut off”
3. “shall cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease”

1. “the street shall be built again, and the wall”
2. “shall destroy the city and the sanctuary”
3. “and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate”

The first group concerns the Messiah, and takes place within the seventy week time period. The second trio concerns Jerusalem and an opposing prince, and is not limited to the seventy weeks.

I don't have time to get into this right now, suffice it to say you do not get this prophecy either brother. Stop listening to men and ask the Holy Spirit to give it to you.

The short of this is Jesus is cut off. There is ONE WEEK of the Prophecy left as pertaining to Israel, it will come after the Church is Raptured.

 

[vinsight4u]

/nvm

 

[vinsight4u]

/nvm

 

[vinsight4u]

/nvm

 

[Original Happy Camper]

So how can you not get that? Its simple enough for a 5th grader to understand,

Tell that to Martin Luther and Isaac Newton who disagree with your Interpertation I am sure they had more than a 5th grade understanding.

You say that the your knowlege is from the Holy Spirit, we know that the Holy Spirit guided the reformers. So we have a problem here either the reformers were not listening to the right spirit or you are not listening to the right spirit. You and the reformers both can not be right.

I will stick with the reformers as your teaching comes from the counter reformation teaching.

 

[Original Happy Camper]

it will come after the Church is Raptured.

There is no one left alive on this plant except Satan after God's people are raptured.

 

[Original Happy Camper]

Satan seduces us with half truths or outright lies unless we are vigilant, Jesus warned us about this, as did Paul and Peter. Hes a wolf in sheep's clothing, hes a liar and never ceases lying.

Very true statement, Now we have to decide which are half truths or outright lies.
The reformation or the counter reformation.

Can you tell me which of the two is a lie or half truth, reformation or counter reformation?

You list yourself as a protestant yet you follow counter refermation teaching that is an oxymoron.