Do we lose our sexuality in heaven?

[DrBubbaLove]

would you consider androgyny to be sinful or perverted?

We were talking about Heaven, so am not sure how to see that as either if indeed that is the state of our bodies there. My thoughts are that God made us male and female, so we will remain that way in the next life.

 

[Sammy-San]

Not sure who this is directed at, but I agree. Sex according to God's design is not evil by any means. It's good and it serves a holy purpose. However, we know from Holy Scriptures that in the beginning God instituted marriage between man and woman. But we also know that in Christ there is no male or female (that's not to say that in our current age we should all live celibate), and we will not be taken or given in marriage in the resurrection. In other words, I think when considering the restoration of all things, I don't think it will be a complete revert to Eden, but rather that all things are made new in a way that we don't understand, because it's not fully revealed to us, and Eden, or, the New Jerusalem is brought forth through that.
In the words of our Lord: "Behold, I am making all things new."

What about animals?

 

[Sammy-San]

Can be and also to someone looking rather gender neutral. That was not my meaning, simply without the gender parts we have now, we would look much less male or female.

How many different types of androgynous are there? Two?

 

[Daniel9v9]

What about animals?

Sorry, what's the question? If there are animals in the resurrection? I don't know about the created order in the resurrection beyond what Scriptures reveal. There are probably arguments for and against, but I think it becomes speculation at this point. All we really know is that our Lord Jesus Christ makes all things new. What that looks like exactly, I don't think any man can fathom.

 

[FredVB]

Genesis 1:29-31
Isaiah 11:6-9
Romans 8:19-22
Yes, they'll be there.

 

[Sammy-San]

Sorry, what's the question? If there are animals in the resurrection? I don't know about the created order in the resurrection beyond what Scriptures reveal. There are probably arguments for and against, but I think it becomes speculation at this point. All we really know is that our Lord Jesus Christ makes all things new. What that looks like exactly, I don't think any man can fathom.

can we at least agree that doesnt matter and isn't very relevant?

 

[Sammy-San]

Genesis 1:29-31
Isaiah 11:6-9
Romans 8:19-22
Yes, they'll be there.

Doesn't that refer to the Millenium and not the world to come?

 

[dad]

Given that God and angels are all male, and yet non-sexual in every way, what does that say about gender?
Can male really said to be a mode of being without being counterpoised by the female?
Can left exist without right, the head of a coin without the tail?

I have heard that one before. I wonder if you should say, 'all the angels recorded in the bible were male'?

It is true that men are called the sons of god also, but man kind is male and female.

So...what proof do you have that all angels are male? I don't really know myself.

 

[Daniel9v9]

can we at least agree that doesnt matter and isn't very relevant?

I agree

 

[Sammy-San]

Given that God and angels are all male, and yet non-sexual in every way, what does that say about gender?
Can male really said to be a mode of being without being counterpoised by the female?
Can left exist without right, the head of a coin without the tail?

What is your point? How does that prove that in the next life we will have sexuality? We won't-we will all be like brothers and sisters to each other.

 

[SolomonVII]

I have heard that one before. I wonder if you should say, 'all the angels recorded in the bible were male'?

It is true that men are called the sons of god also, but man kind is male and female.

So...what proof do you have that all angels are male? I don't really know myself.

You are right. Absence of evidence is not necessarily evidence of absence.
Suffice it to say that all angels that the Bible saw as worthy to note are male.

 

[dad]

You are right. Absence of evidence is not necessarily evidence of absence.
Suffice it to say that all angels that the Bible saw as worthy to note are male.

That I can say amen to.

 

[Sammy-San]

To quote Billy Graham in one of his books," This may indicate that angels enjoy relationships that are far more thrilling and exciting than sex."

 

[dad]

To quote Billy Graham in one of his books," This may indicate that angels enjoy relationships that are far more thrilling and exciting than sex."

They may. Apparently some married women here though long ago, and I doubt it was just for the shopping.

 

[Sammy-San]

They may. Apparently some married women here though long ago, and I doubt it was just for the shopping.

Is that a joke?

 

[dad]

Is that a joke?

No. The sons of god saw the gals and that they were cute and decided to marry them.

 

[Sammy-San]

No. The sons of god saw the gals and that they were cute and decided to marry them.

Marry in that context? In Genesis there weren't pastors or licenses.

 

[dad]

Marry in that context? In Genesis there weren't pastors or licenses.

So? Who says we need those? Abraham had none.

 

[Sammy-San]

So? Who says we need those? Abraham had none.

Was that a silly comment?

 

[SolomonVII]

Sons of God and daughters of men is how the passage goes, doesn't it?

Apparently then, angels are gendered, but enacting their gender in a sexual way is part of their fallen state, biblically speaking at least.

In terms of biology and human nature, sexuality is about reproduction of self into the future, and it is more meaningful in regards to mortals who otherwise have limits on their future. Sexuality is our tie to the future, and and expression of our will to immortality, to be the icon of the eternal God, if you will.

For immortals, reproduction becomes redundant. Simply put, angels have no need to project themselves into the future through the wombs of mortal women. Time holds no limit for them.

I suppose we can liken the sexuality of these sons of God to this our modern age of sex in the times of birth control and abortion. Sex serves another purpose. Rather than immortality and generating one's godliness into the future through the creation and sustenance of the next generation, taking women is much more about self-image and power and status symbols.

This is really not the stuff of heaven. None of us can know heaven now through experience of course, but it is illogical to think that such a mindset defines what is good.
Well, on second thought, this is disputed by the wisdom of our own age, isn't it? Sexuality as self-fulfillment is in fact defined as the good in modern culture.