Do we Canadians owe America an apology for 1750 - 1783?

[DennisTate]

I personally am a Canadian who feels that if my ancestors had known what was really going on at the time we actually would have supported America, not England, in the American Revolutionary War.

The History of Banking Control in the United States


Alain Pilote:

We are in 1750. The United States of America does not yet exist; it is the 13 Colonies of the American continent, forming "New England", a possession of the motherland, England. Benjamin Franklin wrote about the population of that time: "Impossible to find a happier and more prosperous population on all the surface of the globe." Going over to England to represent the interests of the Colonies, Franklin was asked how he accounted for the prosperous conditions prevailing in the Colonies, while poverty was rife in the motherland:

"That is simple," Franklin replied. "In the Colonies we issue our own money. It is called Colonial Scrip. We issue it in proper proportion to make the products pass easily from the producers to the consumers. In this manner, creating ourselves our own paper money, we control its purchasing power, and we have no interest to pay to no one."

The English bankers, being informed of that, had a law passed by the British Parliament prohibiting the Colonies from issuing their own money, and ordering them to use only the gold or silver debt-money that was provided in insufficient quantity by the English bankers. The circulating medium of exchange was thus reduced by half.

"In one year," Franklin stated, "the conditions were so reversed that the era of prosperity ended, and a depression set in, to such an extent that the streets of the Colonies were filled with unemployed."

Then the Revolutionary War was launched against England, and was followed by the Declaration of Independence in 1776. History textbooks erroneously teach that it was the tax on tea that triggered the American Revolution. But Franklin clearly stated:

"The Colonies would gladly have borne the little tax on tea and other matters, had it not been the poverty caused by the bad influence of the English bankers on the Parliament: which has caused in the Colonies hatred of England, and the Revolutionary War."

The Founding Fathers of the United States, bearing all these facts in mind, and to protect themselves against the exploitation of the International Bankers, took good care to expressly declare, in the American Constitution, signed at Philadelphia in 1787, Article 1, Section 8, paragraph 5:

"Congress shall have the power to coin money and to regulate the value thereof."

 

[DennisTate]

I began a poll on this topic a few years ago:

An apology to all Americans from a Canadian, and a thank you!

 

[Saucy]

I'm not sure about that, but the more recent Canadian-born disaster wrecking the U.S. right now is Justin Bieber and I have yet to receive an apology for that.

 

[paul1149]

Dennis, the sentiment is appreciated here. But consider that at that time 1/3 of the Colonists were themselves loyalist Tories, so I guess the Canadian position was to some degree understandable, though I believe wrong. I think history has proven the Revolution to have been just, and to have produced two of the greatest human documents of governance ever, but back then the rightness of the cause may have been harder to anticipate by some.

 

[Sketcher]

I don't hold Brits today responsible for the oppression of the colonies, or the atrocities committed in the Revolutionary War, so I feel no need for them to apologize for them. Why then, would I feel that Canadians today owe me an apology? Canada wasn't even a country back then.

 

[Hidden In Him]

I personally am a Canadian who feels that if my ancestors had known what was really going on at the time we actually would have supported America, not England, in the American Revolutionary War.

The History of Banking Control in the United States


Alain Pilote:

YES! And allow me to accept the apologies of all Canadians on behalf of the lower 48 States!

Please send all checks and money orders to:

Hidden In Him
P.O. Box 23324
Cha Ching, CA, 77777

 

[Saucy]

Yes, where are our reparations?

 

[Targaryen]

I personally am a Canadian who feels that if my ancestors had known what was really going on at the time we actually would have supported America, not England, in the American Revolutionary War.

Rule Britannia.

Seriously, this kind of thing makes me laugh. Canada was still a British colony for the most part and what wasn't British was French and look what happened in France after the American Revolution.

We owe them nothing.

 

[mindlight]

I personally am a Canadian who feels that if my ancestors had known what was really going on at the time we actually would have supported America, not England, in the American Revolutionary War.

The History of Banking Control in the United States


Alain Pilote:

You assume that the level of incompetence and stupidity that prevailed in the UK in the godless era (in the establishment) just before the American revolution would have prevailed indefinitely. In fact this kind of stupidity came in waves and mainly disappeared over much of the C19.

The more serious sin was rebelling against the authorities that God had instituted. But hey God seems to have forgiven America and blessed it so why shouldn't I also

 

[DennisTate]

You assume that the level of incompetence and stupidity that prevailed in the UK in the godless era (in the establishment) just before the American revolution would have prevailed indefinitely. In fact this kind of stupidity came in waves and mainly disappeared over much of the C19.

The more serious sin was rebelling against the authorities that God had instituted. But hey God seems to have forgiven America and blessed it so why shouldn't I also

Just as God raised up King Jereboam as an adversary to King Solomon and to his son King Rehoboam, sometimes God is in rebellions.

1Kings 11:29

¶
And it came to pass at that time when Jeroboam went out of Jerusalem, that the prophet Ahijah the Shilonite found him in the way; and he had clad himself with a new garment; and they two were alone in the field:

And Ahijah caught the new garment that was on him, and rent it in twelve pieces:

And he said to Jeroboam, Take thee ten pieces: for thus saith the LORD, the God of Israel, Behold, I will rend the kingdom out of the hand of Solomon, and will give ten tribes to thee:

 

[Targaryen]

Just as God raised up King Jereboam as an adversary to King Solomon and to his son King Rehoboam, sometimes God is in rebellions.

1Kings 11:29

¶
And it came to pass at that time when Jeroboam went out of Jerusalem, that the prophet Ahijah the Shilonite found him in the way; and he had clad himself with a new garment; and they two were alone in the field:

And Ahijah caught the new garment that was on him, and rent it in twelve pieces:

And he said to Jeroboam, Take thee ten pieces: for thus saith the LORD, the God of Israel, Behold, I will rend the kingdom out of the hand of Solomon, and will give ten tribes to thee:

and this has to do with Canadians apologizing for what exactly?

 

[SolomonVII]

Canada did not exist at the time.

 

[DennisTate]

Canada did not exist at the time.

True.......
and I certainly would not blame anybody for thinking of that as the answer to this question. In a way it is...... but we are facing certain questions and difficulties over the upcoming one to five years that make that question potentially useful.

For one thing........ the towns of Truro and Pugwash Nova Scotia, Canada seem to be highly vulnerable to the threat of rising ocean levels due to the way that the Bay of Fundy funnels tidal waters producing the world's highest tides.

We Canadians cannot raise the kind of finances necessary to address this issue entirely on our own......... we need to get residents of New Orleans, New York, New Jersey and Florida interested in this as well because there is a way to significantly decrease the danger faced by residents of Truro and Pugwash.

Every cubic meter of ocean water that is desalinated and added to the water table of Israel, Jordan, Qatar, Tunisia, Australia or California........ is really good news for people living near the oceans.

Graphene screens and low cost desalination of ocean water.

Turning deserts green and saving New Orleans and Florida...

 

[DennisTate]

and this has to do with Canadians apologizing for what exactly?

Going along with a central banking scheme to keep ordinary people always running like Gerbils on a treadmill.

If Rabbi Judah ben Samuel was correct that 1917, 1967 and 2017 would be Jubilee years...... then this is a perfect time to discuss shifting over to a better system.

North American churches should each have their own currency!

 

[DennisTate]

Dennis, the sentiment is appreciated here. But consider that at that time 1/3 of the Colonists were themselves loyalist Tories, so I guess the Canadian position was to some degree understandable, though I believe wrong. I think history has proven the Revolution to have been just, and to have produced two of the greatest human documents of governance ever, but back then the rightness of the cause may have been harder to anticipate by some.

Sometimes we have to put out an idea as a gambit..... that sets us up for
something more complex that can be explained in depth later on.


President Trump, Cyrus prophecies and the Jerusalem Sanhedrin?

For the record....... I have a theory on HOW TO PAY OFF THE NATIONAL DEBT OF THE UNITED STATES AND ISRAEL!

 

[Dave RP]

I don't hold Brits today responsible for the oppression of the colonies, or the atrocities committed in the Revolutionary War, so I feel no need for them to apologize for them. Why then, would I feel that Canadians today owe me an apology? Canada wasn't even a country back then.

How did the gencide of the native Americans go without us Brits, or the 150 years of slavery? 2 sides to most coins?

 

[DennisTate]

How did the gencide of the native Americans go without us Brits, or the 150 years of slavery? 2 sides to most coins?

Good points!

The eldest in the family does tend to learn certain lessons before the younger siblings clue to the same things.


Jeremiah 31:9

They shall come with weeping, and with supplications will I lead them: I will cause them to walk by the rivers of waters in a straight way, wherein they shall not stumble: for I am a father to Israel, and Ephraim is my firstborn.

 

[Sketcher]

How did the gencide of the native Americans go without us Brits, or the 150 years of slavery? 2 sides to most coins?

The British did get the ball rolling on the killing of Native Americans, and slavery was well-established by British colonists, got to give credit/blame where it is due. Unfortunate that Americans at the time continued it.

 

[Dave RP]

The British did get the ball rolling on the killing of Native Americans, and slavery was well-established by British colonists, got to give credit/blame where it is due. Unfortunate that Americans at the time continued it.

Very true but the US perfected industrialised genicide and the British abolished slavery voluntarily without the need fir a war which killed hundreds of thousands and devastated half the country.

 

[Sketcher]

Very true but the US perfected industrialised genicide and the British abolished slavery voluntarily without the need fir a war which killed hundreds of thousands and devastated half the country.

I'd give the credit for perfecting industrialized genocide to the Germans.