Do other people make you feel anxious?

[Celticroots]

Do other people make you feel anxious, specifically other believers? I am in a program for adults with disabilities. The job coach I had today was like this. She's a believer, as am I, and feels very strongly about some things I do not. She made feel very tense the entire day. I physically felt my chest tighten. Like all she wanted to talk about was God, theology, etc. Which I don't mind, just not all the time.

Examples:

Today one of the other girls was having attitude issues. The coach said, "I rebuke this spirit of meanness in the name of Jesus!" she wanted me to lay a hand on the girl's shoulder too. I did, although I felt stupid for doing so, as that seemed way over the top to me. And it just wasn't something I was ever used to. Telling the girl the behavior was an unacceptable would have worked fine.

Oh, and this gem. The girl was continuing to act badly despite being corrected. So the coach says, "she continues to act badly? And she calls herself a Christian? Repentance means to change you're ways!" This girl had Down Syndrome, so maybe she didn't have the cognitively ability to see how her negative behavior impacted others, or why it was bad, or why she shouldn't be able to keep on doing it? The girl was in the car when the coach said this. I felt sick upon hearing it.

She took issue with the Halloween decorations hanging on some people's homes. She said, "We aren't to celebrate like Pagans." Different people have different opinions. I don't have an issue with Halloween; I like going to the corn maze and getting a pumpkin to carve.

We see women with tattoos. Then she asks me how I feel about tattoos.
I said, "I think it varies from person to person. A matter of conviction. If the Holy Spirit convicts you, don't do it. If you've prayed, etc and Holy Spirit doesn't convict you, I don't see a problem with it, although I'd never get one personally."

Her response. "Well the Bible says we aren't to mark our bodies. So you're saying we can just choose what is and isn't sin?" Then she launches into this whole cheap grace thing, and legalism, etc, and about how the law wasn't done away with etc.


Sigh.

She's nice but I couldn't handle having her as my coach full time. At lunch, I accidentally dropped my sandwich and she said, "Maybe God wanted you to buy a smoothie." Or maybe I just dropped my sandwich.

So have you run into anyone like this? Everything is always a debate, God is brought up in the most mundane circumstances, or about religion, etc even when the original conversation wasn't anything about that?

I feel really anxious and run down.

 

[Noxot]

someone like that would be fun to talk with because my beliefs are different than hers and I like talking about things that matter to me but yes most of the time people in general make me anxious due to me being high in neuroticism and low in extraversion. I have gynophobia so she might make me extremely anxious regardless.

though the laying on hands thing would have been awkward.

 

[Celticroots]

I personally find the laying on of hands unacceptable. As well as speaking to the girl with Down Syndrome badly when she was right in the back seat. Her job is to coach individuals with disabilities. You don't' bring your personal beliefs into it.

 

[Winken]

Re the OP (post 1). That person would not make me anxious or nervous or frustrated or whatever. I would simply ask if I could share a few scriptures with her. If she says yes, then I will quote directly from the Bible, using Paul's letters. I will cite Romans 10:8-13, Romans 8:1, John 5:24, and Ephesians 2:8-9. I would then comment, "I need no other argument, I need no other plea; it is enough that Jesus died, and that He died for me, setting me free. No more night, no more pain, no more fears, never crying again. Praises to the Great I AM, we live in the Light of the Risen Lamb."

 

[com7fy8]

If I had a leader who was doing things wrong, I would be an example for the leader >

"nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock." (1 Peter 5:3)

And make sure you aren't doing the same thing, somehow.

 

[Gottservant]

There is a lot in this.

It's up to you, to accept people for who they are?

I don't know, praise Jesus the time is coming when He won't speak figuratively (then maybe He can explain this stuff).

 

[christianforumsuser]

There's lots of people with crazy thoughts that don't follow what the Bible actually says but history has had conflicts and cultural differences. I don't know what she wants but I expect her heart has sin in it and she's a legalist trying to make more followers under her, but she herself doesn't follow the law perfectly but tries to point fingers and seem like it. Of course the Law is good.

Is she a bad person? Better read what the Bible says than to make it useful to your carnal desires as priority. What good is boasting in flesh if the heart and spirit are sinful. No sense in debating with someone who isn't interested in what's truly spiritual. They're only interested in material things and status, but who isn't of course.

 

[christianforumsuser]

I'll at least remind you that Moses had a brother and that lineage descended all the way to when the Christ, the heavenly High Priest came for us. Yes, I understand this might not be what you expected or wanted to hear, but isn't it better. Else you'd be left with your own carnal thoughts in the same mess with no newness.

 

[faroukfarouk]

We see women with tattoos. Then she asks me how I feel about tattoos.
I said, "I think it varies from person to person. A matter of conviction. If the Holy Spirit convicts you, don't do it. If you've prayed, etc and Holy Spirit doesn't convict you, I don't see a problem with it, although I'd never get one personally."

Well, of course you do. In North America now apparently 59%-70% or more of parlor clients are women, including many Christians. My wife and I talked to a young lady with the whole of John 3.16 tattooed on her wrist area; it was her favorite Bible verse and mine also; and I'm sure that other conversations have arisen as a result of her willingness to have it done.

There may be mental health issues in relation to what is written in your OP; but as for the tattoo aspect, I think it has very little to do with mental health.

 

[faroukfarouk]

I'll at least remind you that Moses had a brother and that lineage descended all the way to when the Christ, the heavenly High Priest came for us. Yes, I understand this might not be what you expected or wanted to hear, but isn't it better. Else you'd be left with your own carnal thoughts in the same mess with no newness.

Yes, Christ as the believer's Great High Priest is a wonderful theme in the Epistle to the Hebrews.

 

[christianforumsuser]

There was also a high priest born 6 months before Him.
Really this makes a huge difference. Even though I'm not answering how someone might expect to remedy anxiety in you or the world. Else why would someone ask expecting counsel from a sinner's mind or heart.
Get away from those people.

 

[faroukfarouk]

@Celticroots : For the believer it's good to keep looking up (Hebrews 12.2), in any case, despite what some ppl may say.

 

[Celticroots]

There's lots of people with crazy thoughts that don't follow what the Bible actually says but history has had conflicts and cultural differences. I don't know what she wants but I expect her heart has sin in it and she's a legalist trying to make more followers under her, but she herself doesn't follow the law perfectly but tries to point fingers and seem like it. Of course the Law is good.

Is she a bad person? Better read what the Bible says than to make it useful to your carnal desires as priority. What good is boasting in flesh if the heart and spirit are sinful. No sense in debating with someone who isn't interested in what's truly spiritual. They're only interested in material things and status, but who isn't of course.

Well in an environment that’s supposed to mimic a job setting someone shouldn’t try to bring up religious issues to debate anyway.

 

[Celticroots]

Well, of course you do. In North America now apparently 59%-70% or more of parlor clients are women, including many Christians. My wife and I talked to a young lady with the whole of John 3.16 tattooed on her wrist area; it was her favorite Bible verse and mine also; and I'm sure that other conversations have arisen as a result of her willingness to have it done.

There may be mental health issues in relation to what is written in your OP; but as for the tattoo aspect, I think it has very little to do with mental health.

So there’s an issue that I don’t concern myself with people who want to get tattoos, despite the fact they aren’t harming themselves or others? Even though I said getting a tattoo isn’t something I am comfortable doing?

 

[faroukfarouk]

So there’s an issue that I don’t concern myself with people who want to get tattoos, despite the fact they aren’t harming themselves or others? Even though I said getting a tattoo isn’t something I am comfortable doing?

I would basically ignore whether someone has a tattoo in terms of how you relate to them.

But if they want to talk about their tattoos and you do too, well fine!

A lot of Christians do use faith based tattoos as effective witness tools that act as conversation starters.

 

[Celticroots]

There was also a high priest born 6 months before Him.
Really this makes a huge difference. Even though I'm not answering how someone might expect to remedy anxiety in you or the world. Else why would someone ask expecting counsel from a sinner's mind or heart.
Get away from those people.

Was that to me? I think she is legalistic but we are all sinners. If she becomes my permanent coach then I can’t get away from her. I am hoping she doesn’t become my permanent coach however.

 

[christianforumsuser]

Business out of the church and church out of the business?
Maybe keep all sorts of selfish agendas and emotional drama out too. Would people be lifeless robots or perhaps be able to act like ladies and gentlemen, not obnoxious uneducated harlots/harlots pardon my french.
They must be overcompensating for the shame of not truly owning the right gospel. It's sad that so many people don't understand and then go around trying to do deeds or saying what they think they're supposed to.
Just please stay away from them. Genuine love in word is one thing, saying it, but faith really needs God's Word and seeing what He's done.

 

[Celticroots]

No the business has nothing to do with church, and is not run by any church. It’s secular. Did you read what else I wrote? If she becomes my permanent coach I can’t stay away from her, although I am hoping that doesn’t happen.

 

[faroukfarouk]

...despite the fact they aren’t harming themselves or others?

In any case, sooo many ppl get tattoos, especially at 18; it's what is so often done at around one's 18th. It used to be man thing (male sailors, bikers, etc.) but now it's become a very womanly thing to do also. A lot of Christians get something faith based done, even something simple like a Christian fish sign <>< on a wrist, etc.

 

[faroukfarouk]

No the business has nothing to do with church, and is not run by any church. It’s secular. Did you read what else I wrote? If she becomes my permanent coach I can’t stay away from her, although I am hoping that doesn’t happen.

Maybe someone else will take her place, then, which might be more comfortable for you.