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Featured Do God protect His chosen from rape?

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by Strong10, Nov 6, 2019.

  1. Strong10

    Strong10 New Member

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    I know wordly women is not protected from rape.
    But do God protect His chosen from rape?
     
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  2. yeshuaslavejeff

    yeshuaslavejeff simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua

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    Some worldly women are protected, (by God);
    some Godly women are not protected.

    There's no "catch-all" Word in Scripture about this.
     
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  3. BryanJohnMaloney

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  4. David Neos

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    This is a dangerous concept you are getting into. We are in a fallen world and crimes are a consequences of that.
     
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  5. JackRT

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    I do not believe that God ever intervenes in the world in any physical way. His effect on us is at the spiritual level.
     
  6. PloverWing

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    Empirically, no. Christian women are raped too.

    In general, Christians, just like non-Christians, can find themselves to be the victim of violence: murder, armed robbery, rape and other kinds of assault, and so on. God does not seem to protect us just because of our virtue or our beliefs.
     
  7. Strong10

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    I don't think so, there is no raped saints.
     
  8. BryanJohnMaloney

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    St. Wulfthryth of Wilton, raped and impregnated.
    St. Angostina Pietrantoni, raped and murdered.
    Bl. Pierina Morosine, raped and murdered.
    Bl. Antonia Mesina, raped and murdered.
     
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  9. public hermit

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    Just because someone is in Christ does not mean they are immune to the suffering and evils common to all humanity. If the Son of God could be unjustly crucified, then...
     
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  10. Blade

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    I think Christs words fit here :)
    "Jesus answered, “My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so that I should not be delivered to the Jews; but now My kingdom is not from here.”
     
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  11. Strong10

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    I mean, saints of my church.
     
  12. public hermit

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  13. RaymondG

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    " He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
    2 I will say of the Lord, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.
    3 Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.
    4 He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.
    5 Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;
    6 Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.
    7 A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee."
     
  14. BryanJohnMaloney

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    Ah, how convenient, your unidentified (and probably non-existent) so-called "church" doesn't recognize those saints. So very convenient for you. What is your alleged "church"?
     
  15. BryanJohnMaloney

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    Therefore, it is part of your dogmatic formulation that any and all rape victims cannot be in the least bit saved or holy. Okay.

    Too bad about molested children, they're all unholy beasts in your eyes, since God didn't protect them.
     
  16. public hermit

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    What's your point? Are you trying to say that Christians can't be raped, murdered, hacked in two, slaughtered, burned, boiled, drawn and quartered, beheaded, take your pick? Are you ignorant of your own history or do you just have a penchant for proof texts? You don't want to go down this road with me. To suggest that Christians can't suffer because they are somehow protected is not only a slap in the face of so many who have died for the faith, but it is a slap in the face of our Lord.
     
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  17. yeshuaslavejeff

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    What about the worldwide flood when only Noah and seven with him were saved on the ark ?
    That seems like something physical to me.
     
  18. BryanJohnMaloney

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    If it turns out you are Orthodox, then St. Wulfthryth of of Wilton is a saint of your Church, since she lived long before the Schism, and just like all other pre-schismatic Western saints, she would be acceptable. Or are you in one of those odd little schisms that seems to be all too common in the East in the present day?
     
  19. BryanJohnMaloney

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    That looks like his point.
     
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  20. RaymondG

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    Let's not forget that males can be victims of rape as well. I think a better question to ask would be whether or not God protects His people from any danger......The answer would be the same even if you drill down into specific categories.

    I believe the answer is clear:

    Yay thou I walk through the valleys of the shadows of Death, I will fear no evil.......why?....because thou art with me.......And God for me and more than a whole world against me.
     
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