I suspect that the violence that Catholic church exorcists experience has more to do with their lack of the Holy Spirit and lack of Godly authority. The RC church places far too much dependency on religious mumbo jumbo, holy water, etc. than one what Christ did on the cross.
This can be seen in Acts19.-
Acts19v13Then some of the itinerant Jewish exorcists took it upon themselves to call the name of the Lord Jesus over those who had evil spirits, saying, “We exorcise you by the Jesus whom Paul preaches.” 14Also there were seven sons of Sceva, a Jewish chief priest, who did so.
15And the evil spirit answered and said, “Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are you?”
16Then the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, overpowered them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded.
These exorcists thought their status with the church (ie. The Temple in Jerusalem) would give them power, but they were spiritually dead. Likewise many priests who think their religious status gives them power when they too are spiritually dead.
On occasion I've been threatened with murder by the demon inside someone, but they too are subject to the authority that is in the blood of Jesus, and they get thrown out.
Tohpher694 claims my post was unfair to you even though I never meant my words the way he interpreted them. Still if they can be interpreted another way, I perhaps should try to be more clear, without potential ambiguity.
FD said: “Jesus commanded us to cast demons out, so why not get and do as he demands.” and “casting demons out
should be part of normal life for all Christians, those who don’t do it are disobeying what Jesus commanded.
JS: Paul also wrote that to G-d gives His many different gifts of the Spirit to different people, each to gets what best for them and the kingdom. Thus these jobs He likened this to organs of the body, where each person calling is not greater or lesser, and that we have to work together, 1Cor.1.24-26.
So when I read Paul statement that we should all be able to cast out demons it falls under Christ own statement, with faith we can move mountains. Yet no one tells us we should all be moving literal mountains! And all gifts including those of the exorcist do not trump Love, the next chapter. This draws me to what got me so very angry, you said:
“I suspect that the violence that Roman Catholic Church exorcist experience has more to do with their lack of the Holy Spirit and the lack of G-dly authority. “
This makes no sense given the context of my testimony of what that exorcist stated he faced. People under demonic possession can act in a number of ways and some extremely alarming: rising off the floor, contorting their body, speaking in a disembodied voice, projectile vomiting, and knowing facts about those facing them they could not possible know.
It takes a very special person to face the worse kinds of demons. Thus not everyone can be or should be an exorcist. This had nothing to do with faith, It has to do with personality. As Paul stated there are different parts in the body because each person is gifted to play a specific role HaShem, praise be He, created them to do and called them to do.
I happen to respect Roman Catholic Exorcist and if our community had a problem with a demonic spirit like one I described above and needed help it would be from this group we ask likely for help. This is because their exorcists have a resume dating back two thousand years, each exorcist is trained by a master down through the ages.
Thus those prayers they use are ancient and have worked for thousands of years. To belittle a organization with that history and solid testimony and historical precedence is simply wrong!
And I say this even though I’m not Roman Catholic.
Also we migrated far from the origins of this post,
Do Folks Believe There is a Devil Out There Anymore. I believe we proved rather conclusively we all do know about demons but this side topic on exorcism and who should or should not be one really should be on another thread.
So this is my last post on this topic. If you wish to respond to this post, start another tread on this forum. I keep my eyes open for it for at least a week to see if you do. Thank you.