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Do Creationists Believe in the Universe

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1 COR. 10:11; HEB. 1:2; HEB. 9:26,28; 1 PET. 1:20
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The Lowest Air That We Breathe/Spiritual Realm (metaphor) = aer (#109) See 1 Thessalonians 4:17

First Heaven = messouranema (#3321) See Revelation 19:17

Second Heaven = epouranios (#2032)

Third Heaven = ouranos (#3772) See Matthew 24:30; 2 Corinthians 12:2
 
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It does when you translate it correctly from the Hebrew though, now doesn't it.
You mean Greek?

And if you want to go the Hebrew route, what is Jesus' Hebrew name in:[VERSE=Jeremiah 23:6,KJV]In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.[/VERSE]
 
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You mean Greek?

Why the strawman, we both know what I meant.

When the Spirit of YHWH came into the physical body of Yahshua at the occasion of his baptism from John, (Matt. 3:16), he received logos - logic, speech, expression, reasoning, oral communication, spoken word, that came from YHWH. The Spirit of YHWH entered Yahshua (2 Cor. 5:19), and Yahshua became the Messiah (the Anointed) one of Israel. This was also the beginning of the temptation of Messiah (Matt. 4:1; 2 Sam. 7:13), followed by his miraculous power through the Spirit Power of YHWH. Thus the Spirit of YHWH came into, and possessed the physical body of the Son (Jn 1:14), at Baptism. From that point on, Yahshua did nothing of Himself, but only reflected the will and control of the Father YHWH, the influence of the Almighty Sovereign Creator Father YHWH was dwelling, living within his physical body (skinned tent). "Truly, truly, I say unto you, the Son is able to do nothing at all by Himself, but only that which He sees the Father doing, because whatever He [YHWH] does, the Son [Yahshua] also likewise does," (Jn. 5:19; 8:27-29).

Only "through" Yahshua's body were men able to gaze upon the esteem of the Almighty Sovereign Creator Spirit YHWH, (2 Cor. 4:6; Jn. 4:24), "for no man has seen YHWH at any time, nor can see Him," (Jn. 1:18; 1 Tim 6:16). Through the "faith" (Phil 3:9) of Yahshua our Messiah Deliverer, the message of restoration to the lost sheep of Israel (Matt. 15:24), as received by Yahshua from the Logic given him by YHWH, is made known, (Jn. 5:19; 30). The same message of restoration, "the logos," is now committed to True Israelite believers as envoys on behalf of Messiah, "and has committed to us [believers] "the logic" (word) of restoration to favor," (2 Cor. 5:19).

Don't confuse the vessel with that which filled the vessel.
 
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When the Spirit of YHWH came into the physical body of Yahshua at the occasion of his baptism from John,
What about when the Holy Ghost filled John the [Independent Fundamental] Baptist, while he was still in Elizabeth's womb? or Stephen, when he was stoned to death by Saul?

(And are you still working on my other question?)
 
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What about when the Holy Ghost filled John the [Independent Fundamental] Baptist, while he was still in Elizabeth's womb? or Stephen, when he was stoned to death by Saul?

(And are you still working on my other question?)

What about them? God's spirit will enter anyone that allows Him to, it is a requirement. Whether you do His will after that is something completely different.

"Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’"

Are you going to claim to be God because you are filled with His spirit?

And you are misquoting Stephens death.

"They went on stoning Stephen as he called on the Lord and said, "Lord Jesus, receive my spirit!""

He was asking that "his" spirit be received by the gatekeeper. Being a believer we can probably safely assume he possessed God's spirit, being that he was doing God's work. But then I don't believe John or Stephen were God either because of that, do you?

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As for answering your other question, I already did.

And had you actually read what I wrote when responding to you, you would of noticed my use of the word Yahshua. Clearly not the Tetragrammaton, since they felt no need to conceal the name of Yahshua.

EDIT, EDIT:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahshua
"The spelling Yahshua (יהשע) or (יהשוע) is not found in Hebrew texts. The Hebrew Bible uses Yehoshua (יְהוֹשֻׁעַ), and later Aramaic form Yeshua (יֵשׁוּעַ), for Joshua, which means "Yah is Salvation." Christians, historians, and linguists outside the sacred name movement for the most part reject the term Yahshua (יהשע) in favor of Yeshua (ישוע) as the original pronunciation."

Only in texts outside of the Bible will you find him actually called Yahshua, in Hebrew it is actually Yehoshua. Perhaps I should of made that clear in my first post.
 
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The first heaven was made the 2nd Day Gen 1:6-8 and the other heavens (plural) were made on the 3rd Day. Gen 2:4 A firmament/heaven is one of the Universes within our Multiverse. The first heaven was totally destroyed in the flood ll Peter 3:5 and the present second heaven will be burned. ll Peter 3:10

The Third Heaven of ll Cor 12:2 and Rev 21:1 is the object God's Creation and Christians will live there forever with Jesus on the 7th Day, which has no evening and no end. The 7th Day is Eternity. Amen? God Bless you
 
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