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Featured Do Christians need to belong to a church?

Discussion in 'Congregation-specific Ethics' started by Romans 8, Apr 18, 2019.

  1. _Dave_

    _Dave_ Active Member Supporter

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    You can tell a lot by going to the church's website and reading their statement of doctrine. The websites for a couple of mainline denominations (that I won't mention) blatantly state that they don't believe in the rapture, the 1,000-year physical reign of Christ on the Throne of David, and that God still has a plan for His people Israel.

    Someone looking for good, solid, biblical teaching would not want to set foot inside these churches no matter the great fellowship and social values they offer ... other than to remain milk Christians and just to enjoy the fellowship.
     
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  2. Michael Collum

    Michael Collum Everything began with a voice, use yours Supporter

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    If thy eye offend thee talks about lusting after women, it even invites the offender to cut his hand off in juxtaposition. It illustrates that the body doesn't cause us to sin, it's something deeper.
     
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  3. Albion

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    Most of that would not constitute a heresy in the average church body, and certainly not apostasy. However, there no doubt are some denominations or congregations which would think of departure from the POV of the church on even such a matter as how exactly to interpret the Bible reference to the thousand years as constituting a heresy.
     
  4. RaymondG

    RaymondG Well-Known Member

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    If you desire to hear that it is ok to not go to church.....why ask Christian? There are much more people in the world who would be willing to tell you what you desire to hear.
     
  5. Romans 8

    Romans 8 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    It's slightly invasive yeah.

    Insecure, possibly so. It's a smaller congregation and so one person means a lot more than a much larger congregation that's less noticeable.

    He will get used to my schedule, I'm still fairly new. God Bless!
     
  6. Romans 8

    Romans 8 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    Raymond, Raymond. Please read through the thread before commenting. Thanks.
     
  7. Albion

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    It may matter what the doctrines of the church happen to be. If regular Sunday attendance is part of the creed in that church, officially or unofficially so, then there is an expectation that all members will be present, barring illness or other unavoidable reasons.

    But if that is not part of the religious belief system of the congregation, the pastor is merely urging regular attendance for all the good reasons people attend worship services.
     
  8. Calvin_1985

    Calvin_1985 Active Member

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    Stop coming on here asking these questions and follow Yeshua Messiah and He will guide you into the truth. I do not know the intent of your question, but if you genuinely are trying to settle some thoughts of your mind and heart, then seek Fathwr on this. You're only going to get a ton of different answers on here that use selected verses and traditions to sway you in one direction or another.
     
  9. Romans 8

    Romans 8 Well-Known Member Supporter

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    He didn't just say what I think he said...did he? You've no authority to demand anything from anyone.

    Then ask before replying with nonsense.


    That's why I posted here. Is this not a forum?
     
  10. FireDragon76

    FireDragon76 En cuanto lo hicisteis a uno de estos mis hermanos Supporter

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    In my church that's actually considered heresy, the Augsburg Confession actually condemns chiliasm. Many Protestants did, historically.
     
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  11. FireDragon76

    FireDragon76 En cuanto lo hicisteis a uno de estos mis hermanos Supporter

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    If we are only thinking of church as a burdensome obligation, we are missing the big picture.
     
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  12. _Dave_

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    I knew that, but thanks for confirming it.
     
  13. CGB3928

    CGB3928 New Member

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    No we are not mandated by the bible to attend a building as a group and worship God. But King David did say he was glad to go into the House of the Lord. So it's a good thing and I pay my tithes. Does not have any effect on your salvation or anything like that. A lot of times I get quite weary of attending church myself. I only go sunday mornings and the occasional friday night communion, and I don't tarry after church I go home. But I have seen too many people that actually think God is impressed or they get brownie points from God for attending church. Going to church saves no one and unfortunately too many so called "Christians" have agendas at church that have nothing to do with God. That's why church attendance is at an all time low. And I know why.
     
  14. Chris V++

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    'Do Christians need to belong to a church?'
    'I got a couple text messages from the Pastor when I skipped sessions (for mostly legitimate reasons), but I don't really want that kind of pressure.'



    Attending a church and 'belonging' to a church are two different states of being, at least in the various churches I've attended in the past 10 years. Mere attendance never seems to be sufficient. They tend to push and pressure for official membership over attendance, even during service, which usually requires classes and some public welcoming ceremony. I'm sure this is structured this way to make sure all the congregation is on the same page, but can also seem sectarian. I"m wondering if this is an issue the op is having with his specific church.
     
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  15. Calvin_1985

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    Please don't take what I said as a demand, it isn't meant for that, but is a suggestion for the love I have for you. Jesus has the authority, that's why I point you in the direction of Him as it is he that holds the answers you are looking for. There is no need to be offended. I genuinely thought maybe you were searching for sincere answers to some questions you have, but it is clear by your response to me that you have another intent, but I ask, what does your intent profit you? What does this do in helping you grow closer in the image of Our Yeshua Messiah?
     
  16. Romans 8

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    I'm getting the feeling from this Pastor that he thinks the more times we meet in one week, the better for reasons in his own mind. But I can pray and worship at home too. I don't think attending more than once a week is going to bring me closer to God since I spend most of my time reading the bible and reading about the bible (minus the time I've been spending in CF which has been a lot lately).
    Thanks I totally agree with your post! God Bless!
     
  17. Albion

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    First, the question did not ask if we should "attend a building" (if that even makes sense).

    Second, the Bible--specifically, the New Testament--has plenty to say, positively, about believers gathering together for worship, instruction, and fellowship.

    Some of what happens there is referred to separately. The worship leaders are identified and their qualifications given. People who started up new assemblies are referred to. And more.

    If the question is asked about the importance of assembling together, there are likely to be people saying yea and others saying nay, but there is no question whatsoever about what the Bible has to say on the subject!
     
  18. HatGuy

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    I would say one should actually not go to church or attend a local church.

    Instead, one should be part of a local church.
     
  19. gideon123

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    Dear OP

    It is essential that you belong to a Christian fellowship i.e. a church.

    How important?

    Really, really, really. really,
    Really, really, really. really,
    Really, really, really. really,
    IMPORTANT!!

    What did Jesus say?
    I am the vine and you are the branches.
    What did the early Christians do?
    They met *together* and they prayed constantly ... together.

    You cannot be an isolated Christian. Yet I get the impression that a lot of people who visit here arw trying to do this.

    Let me say this. Isolation has become a sickness in America. Really - it is a social illness. People live in their houses for years and years, and they do not even know who their neighbor is. This behavior has become so common in America, that a lot of people actually think it is normal.

    It is not normal. The best way for you to see why ... is to go and live in another culture e.g. any country in Central America or S. Amrica. Then you will belong to a real community, and you will understabd what the word community really means.

    So back to your question ... you need to belong to a real fellowship with real people. Face to Face contact.

    Blessings!
     
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  20. FireDragon76

    FireDragon76 En cuanto lo hicisteis a uno de estos mis hermanos Supporter

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    You said so much with so few words. In fact I was trying to emphasize a similar point on another thread, but didn't put it so elegantly. Many Americans tend to focus on "attending", but the actual idea you belong to something is increasingly dying. But belonging in itself is an important spiritual discipline.
     
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