Do Christians Consider it a Lack of Faith to Put Trust into Doctors?

[DiscipleHeLovesToo]

I don't feel left out at all.

Although I was technically asking for advice (I want to be a doctor, moreover, I wanted to know how Christians view doctors) I just wanted to know what other people think in regards to my question (if that makes sense?).

I don't think any of you guys are trying to be the "center of attention." I value the individual preferences of all of you guys equally.

Thanks, Jaedan

debates also happen in other threads in the advice forum where people are desperate for help; i guess the rules make more sense in that kind of request for advice

 

[LightLoveHope]

I don't feel left out at all.

Although I was technically asking for advice (I want to be a doctor, moreover, I wanted to know how Christians view doctors) I just wanted to know what other people think in regards to my question (if that makes sense?).

I don't think any of you guys are trying to be the "center of attention." I value the individual preferences of all of you guys equally.

Being a doctor as a person of faith

Two of my friends, one a consultant anethesietist, the other a GP have squared this circle.

Another friend resigned from being a GP over having to provide abortion advice. These are dilemmas not easily resolved. They loved the ability to help people physically, but often felt constrained over spiritual advice.

An aunt who was a GP gave up giving advice as patients often ignored it or did the opposite. Saying nothing worked better. It was easy in a 10 minute session to say the wrong thing about complex issues so best leave alone.

There are no easy paths here, the better you get the more tragic issues you have to deal with.

God bless you

 

[DiscipleHeLovesToo]

LightLoveHope brings up a good point. I'm not in the medical industry, but have seen a number of documentaries on how the medical industry has evolved over the past few years in the US. documentaries can be inaccurate, so take this with a grain of salt - the US medical industry is governed by the American Medical Association (AMA), which establishes standardized treatments for various ailments; most of these treatments involve prescription drugs. things like diet and lifestyle are seldom considered by the AMA in its guidelines, which seem to be slanted toward the pharma industry. the AMA is governed by doctors who are former and future executives from the medical (mostly pharma) industry. in order for physicians to get malpractice insurance, they must adhere to the standardized AMA treatment plans, which for the most part do not include alternatives to pharma treatments.

of all the people i know my age and older (i'm retired), every one of them is now on one or more (mostly more) prescription drugs for the rest of their lives (by the grace of God, not me). insurance rules have changed in the past few years; before i retired with a local government pension and health insurance a little over a year ago, a change was made that allows insurance companies to recover medical expenses paid when the insured refuses prescribed treatments; this includes so-called 'preventative care'. for government workers, the law forced government employers to garnish the salaries of employees who were identified by the insurance companies as not following doctor's orders, based solely on the insurance companies' judgement, in order to recover costs already approved and paid by the insurance company.

a coworker of mine was told by his doctor (after getting a routine physical) that he needed to get a colonoscopy as a routine part of 'preventative care'; he was already taking blood pressure medicine and a couple of other drugs that he'd been told he'd have to take for the rest of his life. he had reservations about the colonoscopy (ignored and discredited by his doctor) and didn't go to the specialist he was referred to. not long after this, his insurance company contacted him and told him that if he didn't follow his doctor's orders on this, that the insurance company would bill him for all costs associated with his recent physical (which included a number of 'routine' tests), which amounted to several thousand dollars - he scheduled the colonoscopy.

the point being that the medical industry in the US (which includes 'big pharma') is tightening it's grip on doctors - you may want to check into some of this before you make your final decision about becoming a doctor

 

[Basil the Great]

Hi, (this is a poorly constructed question)

I have noticed that a tiny minority of Christians (I'm not trying to make a hasty generalization here) don't really trust their doctors. I have heard some stories (and ongoing stories) about people refusing to go to the doctor, trusting that God will heal them of their sickness (in a divine way). Moreover, I have been kinda worried about these people.

I'm no doctor yet (I'm not even a pre-med student yet). However, I just feel a bit worried about this minority group of Christians. But, I don't know if it is right for me to feel this way.


Do Christians consider it a lack of faith (in regards to God) to put trust into Doctors?

Other than perhaps members of the Christian Science Society and probably a very small percentage of Evangelicals and/or Fundamentalists, the answer would be "no".

 

[throughfiierytrial]

Hi, (this is a poorly constructed question)

I have noticed that a tiny minority of Christians (I'm not trying to make a hasty generalization here) don't really trust their doctors. I have heard some stories (and ongoing stories) about people refusing to go to the doctor, trusting that God will heal them of their sickness (in a divine way). Moreover, I have been kinda worried about these people.

I'm no doctor yet (I'm not even a pre-med student yet). However, I just feel a bit worried about this minority group of Christians. But, I don't know if it is right for me to feel this way.


Do Christians consider it a lack of faith (in regards to God) to put trust into Doctors?

As a Christian I believe we still put primary faith in our God praying He give skill and knowledge and wisdom to our doctors who attend us during illness, injury or other hardships. We do not do wrong to trust a doctor's care in this way. It is though God who brings the healing and the doctors and nurses attending us are His instruments. Some may trust God alone in their healing and that is a matter of conscience for them alone.
Luke, one of those penning the Gospels themselves, was a doctor...Colossians 4:14. Matthew 9:12 cites Jesus saying that the healthy do not need a doctor, the sick do...paraphrased by me.
Jesus in this way did not denounce doctor for us.
In speaking of the gifts given to the body of believers in I Corinthians gifts of healing are listed...I believe such are doctors and nurses for the most part, but there are those who are not formally educated in medicine who are very skilled in helping the sick...God-given, gifted believers among us even today.

 

[The Liturgist]

Hi, (this is a poorly constructed question)

I have noticed that a tiny minority of Christians (I'm not trying to make a hasty generalization here) don't really trust their doctors. I have heard some stories (and ongoing stories) about people refusing to go to the doctor, trusting that God will heal them of their sickness (in a divine way). Moreover, I have been kinda worried about these people.

I'm no doctor yet (I'm not even a pre-med student yet). However, I just feel a bit worried about this minority group of Christians. But, I don't know if it is right for me to feel this way.


Do Christians consider it a lack of faith (in regards to God) to put trust into Doctors?

No. There is a non-Christian cult which calls itself Christian Science which rejects normal medical care, but Christian Science is neither Christian nor Scientific.

 

[Randy777]

Hi, (this is a poorly constructed question)

I have noticed that a tiny minority of Christians (I'm not trying to make a hasty generalization here) don't really trust their doctors. I have heard some stories (and ongoing stories) about people refusing to go to the doctor, trusting that God will heal them of their sickness (in a divine way). Moreover, I have been kinda worried about these people.

I'm no doctor yet (I'm not even a pre-med student yet). However, I just feel a bit worried about this minority group of Christians. But, I don't know if it is right for me to feel this way.


Do Christians consider it a lack of faith (in regards to God) to put trust into Doctors?

No - In regard to refusing treatment from a doctor and thinking God will heal you seems to me to be putting God to the test. Modern medicine has come a long way since ancient times.
There is a lot of study to become a doctor. Why wouldn't one think they know how to treat you?
If ones car breaks down wouldn't one take it to a trained mechanic? There are many walks of life and people who are trained and experienced in their area of expertise.

Its foolish not to go to go a doctor in the name of religion. Wouldn't doing so actually be encouraged by the Lord who knows that avenue is available to us?

 

[Brian Mcnamee]

Hi, (this is a poorly constructed question)

I have noticed that a tiny minority of Christians (I'm not trying to make a hasty generalization here) don't really trust their doctors. I have heard some stories (and ongoing stories) about people refusing to go to the doctor, trusting that God will heal them of their sickness (in a divine way). Moreover, I have been kinda worried about these people.

I'm no doctor yet (I'm not even a pre-med student yet). However, I just feel a bit worried about this minority group of Christians. But, I don't know if it is right for me to feel this way.


Do Christians consider it a lack of faith (in regards to God) to put trust into Doctors?

Hi if I can read between the lines a bit are you talking about the dangers of vaccines ? I have seen and heard many doctors who are totally against them and can explain the dangers of them and I for one will not be taking the corona virus vaccine based on the advise of doctors. There are other doctors saying we all need to have a mandatory vaccine which will come with a mandatory ID that very well could end up being a quantum dot tattoo which is technology right now being promoted as a global ID solution and immunity record system.
You see many years ago the Rockerfeller foundation created the American cancer society and now they run most medical schools in the world and are funded by the drug companies. The modern textbooks have eliminated historical natural medicines in favor of drug research. On Covid those taking vitamin D3, Zinc and Hydroxy are significantly safer and that can be proven. The doctors here were forbidden to provide this medicine and had a rush to stockpile ventilators and put many on these things which actually led to their deaths. They forbid autopsy's on Covid patients and when some doctors did them anyways they discovered the people who died were not absorbing the oxygen and were like altitude sickness patients.
On a personal level I had a skin cancer on my lower lip and went to have it checked out. they did a thing called Mo's surgery which is common and basically you dig it out and that is it. Well it came back a month later. I had researched apricot kernel's as a source of natural healing with skin cancer and decided to try it before going back for another Mo's. Well my lip healed and is has been gone for 3 years. There are a few doctors who support these ideas but most doctors are against it.

 

[splish- splash]

Maybe i could use the following as an example. Women have routine appointments to attend every so often, i.e mammogram screening and cervical screening appointments etc. The thing God would not want, was if we received a bad medical report and then magnified it. We should be able to see Christ in our bad situations. That's all.

Well, doctors are qualified at what they do, but are still human. On the other hand, God is perfect and it is safer to trust in Him alone fully. He can still work through a doctor inorder to save a patient though.

 

[PaulCyp1]

It is simply common sense to place our trust in those who are expert in a particular field, whether it is a doctor, an auto mechanic, a teacher, a priest, an electrician, or any other expert.

 

[coffee4u]

It is simply common sense to place our trust in those who are expert in a particular field, whether it is a doctor, an auto mechanic, a teacher, a priest, an electrician, or any other expert.

You should be wary of putting full trust in anyone but Jesus. Never assume an 'expert' actually is an expert and you will get caught out far less.

 

[RDKirk]

Should I call a doctor for this sudden pain in my chest, or put my faith in God?

I'd pray while dialing 911.

 

[coffee4u]

Should I call a doctor for this sudden pain in my chest, or put my faith in God?

I'd pray while dialing 911.

You should definitely call tripple 000 or 911 or whatever emergency is in your country, but if you are unhappy with the care or advice seek out a second opinion and even a third.

A friend of ours who is a type 1 diabetic got a call saying he needed to come in right away because blood had been found in his urine and he had kidney failure. Yet he didn't have any symptoms of what he was told he had and after two worrying days the answer was found, the testing site had somehow got someone's else's blood in his sample. Doctors and other people make mistakes all the time, Jesus does not.

 

[dóxatotheó]

Jeremiah 8:22 Is there no medicine in Gilead? Is there no physician there? Why is there no healing for the wounds of my people?
If it was a sin than God would have punish the people in Gilead for following Satan and not him but he didn't so its obvious our Father lets doctors treat us and Genesis 1:29 God gave all the herbs for us so we can see through scripture that we can be healed and accept treatment from doctors now the question is can we trust them

• He will not let your foot slip—
  he who watches over you will not slumber.
  Psalm 121:3

You can trust them like everyone else but don't put him over God as he isn't the one bringing life too you God is this is a verse you should check out God bless!!!

• Whoever dwells in the shelter of the Most High
  will rest in the shadow of the Almighty.
  I will say of the Lord, “He is my refuge and my fortress,
  my God, in whom I trust.”
  Psalm 91:1-2

 

[angelsaroundme]

God made the doctor too.

 

[RDKirk]

God made the doctor too.

Yes, and God made a universe that follows His laws with the intention that man would learn those laws (Psalm 19). In fact, that was the impetus behind the earlier giants of science, such as Newton and Galileo, to learn His laws.

 

[Bobber]

I'd say just don't get caught up in a mistake of refusing to pray that God will add his wisdom and special revelation insight added on to the doctors good skills. I don't think even they would mind you praying a prayer like that.

 

[2BeholdHisGlory]

Jeremiah 8:22 Is there no medicine in Gilead? Is there no physician there? Why is there no healing for the wounds of my people?
If it was a sin than God would have punish the people in Gilead for following Satan and not him but he didn't so its obvious our Father lets doctors treat us and Genesis 1:29 God gave all the herbs for us so we can see through scripture that we can be healed and accept treatment from doctors now the question is can we trust them

• He will not let your foot slip—
  he who watches over you will not slumber.
  Psalm 121:3

You can trust them like everyone else but don't put him over God as he isn't the one bringing life too you God is this is a verse you should check out God bless!!!

• Whoever dwells in the shelter of the Most High
  will rest in the shadow of the Almighty.
  I will say of the Lord, “He is my refuge and my fortress,
  my God, in whom I trust.”
  Psalm 91:1-2

If God gives the herbs and speaks of the balm but dont some people call those who believe in more of a natural medicine (through what God has given us) quacks for trusting in that kind of medicine over the stuff concocted in labs?

Jeremiah 46:11 Go up into Gilead, and take balm, O virgin, the daughter of Egypt: in vain shalt thou use many medicines; for thou shalt not be cured.

There were physicians in Jesus day they also had the same bad experiences with them as well as spending all your money for nought.

Mark 5:26 And had suffered many things of many physicians, and had spent all that she had, and was nothing bettered, but rather grew worse,

Others were reproved for seeking to physicians and not the LORD

2Ch 16:12 And Asa in the thirty and ninth year of his reign was diseased in his feet, until his disease was exceeding great: yet in his disease he sought not to the LORD, but to the physicians.

There is natural medicine (some people call quacks) and modern medicine

 

[dóxatotheó]

If God gives the herbs and speaks of the balm but dont some people call those who believe in more of a natural medicine (through what God has given us) quacks for trusting in that kind of medicine over the stuff concocted in labs?

Jeremiah 46:11 Go up into Gilead, and take balm, O virgin, the daughter of Egypt: in vain shalt thou use many medicines; for thou shalt not be cured.

There were physicians in Jesus day they also had the same bad experiences with them as well as spending all your money for nought.

Mark 5:26 And had suffered many things of many physicians, and had spent all that she had, and was nothing bettered, but rather grew worse,

Others were reproved for seeking to physicians and not the LORD

2Ch 16:12 And Asa in the thirty and ninth year of his reign was diseased in his feet, until his disease was exceeding great: yet in his disease he sought not to the LORD, but to the physicians.

There is natural medicine (some people call quacks) and modern medicine

first thing not all medicine derives from chemical erosions please dont state that thats not answering his question or revelent to wat im saying
and i said seek the Lord and not put faith in them over God is you reply answering his question or revelent to what im saying?

 

[2BeholdHisGlory]

first thing not all medicine derives from chemical erosions please dont state that

Where did I state that? I stated there were herbs (as you shared) and the kind made in labs

thats not answering his question or revelent to wat im saying

I was making a distinction between herbal medicine and labs and that some people trust herbal medicine while others might trust lab doctors and from there one might ask, which ones?

and i said seek the Lord and not put faith in them over God is you reply answering his question or revelent to what im saying?

Never said a thing about the content of your post. I made a distinction and basically agree with the natural medicine in it (as I agree with the scripture posted) I think you wove in Satan in respects to any balm/medicine in Gilead, in respects to natural physicians, God did not (you added that)

Not all medicine is a kind of sorcery, not there at least

What a strange response