Do 'Catholics' go to Hell?

[Standing Up]

certainly not and I will fully explain it, take precious time out my life to explain it you but first lets clear something up...

I think the pedophilia priests are pseudos in so much as they pretend to love God and others. They love themselves. but lemme explain something to you straight up. I am not like these other Catholics here and you will not talk to me like you do these. If u really do not want to listen, then do not ask. I was answering Michie.

I will be more then happy to break this all down and explain it to you but I will not put up with comments like this one. ^ i am in no way one of the apologist for the Church when it comes to sex abuse and the pathetic way it was handled .

The fact is this, sacraments are given, conferred by humans but they really come from Christ, not them. Christ is with God in heaven and humans are down here. The priest acts on Christs behalf even if he's a creep and a sicko. Lay people can confer the sacrament of baptism on other people in emergency cases because its God working, not the person, the grace does not come from the person but from God.

and redemption from the fall is FREE!!!!!!! it does not depend on ANYONE or ANYTHING. Its given and we have it and once we do have it- we the person, us, ourselves, have to accept it in order for it to be fruitful in our lives. We can forsake it if we choose to.

So, no, the state of the soul of the person conferring the grace on the person for God is not what will make it valid on not. the priest must be ordained properly. and if he is a sicko then guess what? that is his bad and God will deal with him but when he confers the sacraments, he is doing it on Christ behalf and its God doing it so his state of soul does not matter. this is not the OT where the priest sins matter. Christ is the high priest, there is only ONE and its Jesus and the priest here is only physically doing the ritual on His behalf.

That clears your position. They are not Catholic, only wolves. Other Catholics disagree with you. I am just trying to understand how some think the Body can be in hell. Given you think they are not Catholic, then the question doesn't apply.

Thanks for your time.

 

[Standing Up]

Yes I understand that. But once you reject it unto death... what then? What good does it do? That is what I'm trying to find out. I know what Scripture says. What does the Church say?

Something about a mortal sin.

I don't understand how that person would still be a Catholic? Part of the Body in hell?

 

[christseeker45]

Something about a mortal sin.

I don't understand how that person would still be a Catholic? Part of the Body in hell?

No, just claiming Catholic does not mean you are part of the body

 

[Root of Jesse]

So, you think the pedophile priest is still catholic, rather than a wolf in sheep's clothing?

There's never a possibility that someone just got wet in their baptism? Catholic theology does not allow for that?

Every priest, pedophile or not, is a sinner, just like you and me.

Christ does not just wet anyone in a baptism. Even one in a Protestant church. In those churches, though, the baptism means more to Christ than it does to the baptised, at least according to what 'baptsim' means in Protestant Churches. Baptism means what Christ intended it to mean, regardless of the state of the person receiving it.

 

[suzybeezy]

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