yeshuaslavejeff
simple truth, martyr, disciple of Yahshua
Did I say I agree.So you agree the human will makes arbitrary choices with no reason?
I think you make too many assumptions.
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Did I say I agree.So you agree the human will makes arbitrary choices with no reason?
Did I say I agree.
I think you make too many assumptions.
they often make choices that are on the wide path - i.e. leading to destruction
If God has exhaustive foreknowledge of all that happens and will happen in our life, do we have freewill?
If God foreknew many would refuse to believe in Jesus, why did He go ahead and create them?
You may post your answers with biblical warrant.
Straightforward question: As a believer, what difference would it make to you? Does your faith depend on the answer to that question?
As far as I can see in scripture, as far as I've seen in my own life, free will does nothing but send us to hell.
"Not my will, but Thine."
"Thy will be done."
If that is what we believe, then of what importance is the question to us?
That's a serious question: If you got an answer either way, what would you do with it?
And if it wouldn't make a difference, then why spend a moment fretting over it?
"Thy will be done."
John 17:3: "And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent".fretting over it?
In view of the above, does raising a question to know God amount to fretting?
What other specific questions you have?Depends on how you answer the specific questions I asked.
What other specific questions you have?
Straightforward question: As a believer, what difference would it make to you? Does your faith depend on the answer to that question?
Hebrews 11:3: "Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God".
In view of the above, is faith given by God to understand about God?
Don't you want to know more about God through faith?
Straightforward question: As a believer, what difference would it make to you? Does your faith depend on the answer to that question?
As a believer, what difference would it make to you?
There doesn't have to be a reason. You are creating a false dilemma.
God began it,
Within our timeframe, perhaps.You choose to believe, God then chooses to save you. God began it, because he convicts. You can accept or reject his leading.
I think "repeating" a false dilemma is more accurate - it was a false dilemma long ago, spurred on by sin and by the enemy... before any of us here today were born ....There doesn't have to be a reason. You are creating a false dilemma.
Personally, I read that verse as Jesus choosing the disciples and us for certain tasks.As Jesus told the disciples "you did not choose Me, I chose you" is truth, without
changing that He also says "Choose TODAY who you will serve" giving men the choice to make themselves freely of their own choice....
Simply, Yahweh chose before the Creation of the world (or anything) who to draw to Himself, and also appointed before any of us existed anywhere except in His Plan,Personally, I read that verse as Jesus choosing the disciples and us for certain tasks.
"No longer do I call you servants, for a servant does not understand what his master is doing. But I have called you friends, because everything I have learned from My Father I have made known to you. 16You did not choose Me, but I chose you. And I appointed you to go and bear fruit— fruit that will remain— so that whatever you ask the Father in My name, He will give you. 17This is My command to you: Love one another.…"
A lot of people read "I chose you." as "I chose you for salvation and passed by others." I don't think the context merits that interpretation.
DO not , no, do not interpret that. Simply believe His Word, as He Reveals this.So how should this be interpreted?
John 1:13 KJV
13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Who's will mattered?