Do all WOF believes in the Trinity?

[Daniel Marsh]

Do all WOF believes in the Trinity?

 

[Pavel Mosko]

In the few years I was with that movement I never encountered an Arian or other non-Trinitarian. But that being said, the way they often explain it is a bit of a Modalism approach, in that using the states of water aka liquid, solid, and gas was a typical way of explaining the Trinity. But what can you expect when so many of them eschew formal theological schooling, and don't see the importance of studying the ancient creeds, church fathers, etc.




Here is the formal statement of Rhema Bible Training Center (the place where WOF officially started)


What We Believe

THE GODHEAD—Our God is One, but manifested in three Persons—the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, being coequal (Deut. 6:4; Phil. 2:6). God the Father is greater than all; the Sender of the Word (Logos) and the Begetter (John 14:28; John 16:28; John 1:14). The Son is the Word flesh-covered, the One Begotten, and has existed with the Father from the beginning (John 1:1; John 1:18; John 1:14). The Holy Spirit proceeds forth from both the Father and the Son and is eternal (John 14:16; John 15:26).

 

[Pavel Mosko]

The Son is the Word flesh-covered,

That phrase is interesting it's got some heretical possibilities compared to "True God and True Man" hypostatic union.

An old long lost internet friend who was raised Assembly of God, but became a professor of theology and more liberal complained how many evangelicals see Jesus as "God in a Man suit" which I think is something like Monothelitism, Jesus has the flesh of a man, but not the other psychological attributes that would really make him fully or truly human.

 

[Pavel Mosko]

This term I think is a little better. I was having trouble thinking of it last night.


Apollinarism or Apollinarianism is a Christological concept proposed by Apollinaris of Laodicea (died 390) that argues that Jesus had a normal human body but a divine mind instead of a regular human soul. It was deemed heretical in 381 and virtually died out within the following decades.[1]


Apollinarism - Wikipedia.

 

[Blade]

Again WOF = Word of God. So when you read the word of God what you do you believe?

 

[now faith]

This Thread looks like a bad attempt at a two person comedy.
You have a straight guy asking rhetorical questions,along with another guy posting about a off topic denomination.

 

[now faith]

In the few years I was with that movement I never encountered an Arian or other non-Trinitarian. But that being said, the way they often explain it is a bit of a Modalism approach, in that using the states of water aka liquid, solid, and gas was a typical way of explaining the Trinity. But what can you expect when so many of them eschew formal theological schooling, and don't see the importance of studying the ancient creeds, church fathers, etc.




Here is the formal statement of Rhema Bible Training Center (the place where WOF officially started)


What We Believe

THE GODHEAD—Our God is One, but manifested in three Persons—the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, being coequal (Deut. 6:4; Phil. 2:6). God the Father is greater than all; the Sender of the Word (Logos) and the Begetter (John 14:28; John 16:28; John 1:14). The Son is the Word flesh-covered, the One Begotten, and has existed with the Father from the beginning (John 1:1; John 1:18; John 1:14). The Holy Spirit proceeds forth from both the Father and the Son and is eternal (John 14:16; John 15:26).

What we believe?
Why are you posting here?
Why are you quoting yourself?

Seriously who cares?
Have a ball!

 

[Pavel Mosko]

along with another guy posting about a off topic denomination.

It's not off topic. Have you truly never heard of Ken Hagin and Rhema Bible Training Center? aka the place where WOF all began....?

Kenneth E. Hagin - Wikipedia


Kenneth Erwin Hagin (August 20, 1917 – September 19, 2003) was an American preacher.[2] He is known for pioneering the Word of Faith movement.[3]

 

[Pavel Mosko]

What we believe?
Why are you posting here?
Why are you quoting yourself?

Seriously who cares?
Have a ball!

Your kind of late to the party....


I'm here because I was WOF in the early 90s and I like answering theology questions.... and by the way, your attitude reminds me why I left that movement.

 

[hhodgson]

Do all WOF believes in the Trinity?

Hey Daniel.... I don't know of any Word of faith believer that don't believe in the Trinity. I'm referring to real Word of Faith believers. There are some of our critics that mention several names of who they think are WOF when actually...there not WOF at all. Have a great day.

 

[Daniel Marsh]

who are the fake WOF groups?

 

[Pavel Mosko]

Well I'm guessing he might be talking about someone like TD Jakes. He once was a Oneness pastor who embraced Prosperity etc. teaching etc. He now is a Trinitarian (so I'm reading today), but has attracted more recent controversy for being more open minded on gays in church.

Benny Hinn also got lumped in with WOF for years because he experimented with some Faith and Prosperity teaching those kind of teachings. But he wan't really that WOF, he is his own thing.

 

[hislegacy]

Rhema and Kenneth Hagin ministries uses the same doctrinal stance as the AOG, and most Pentecostal Charismatic denominations.

Straight from PC Nelson and The foundations of Pentecostal Theology. (VanCleaf).

 

[hhodgson]

Well I'm guessing he might be talking about someone like TD Jakes. He once was a Oneness pastor who embraced Prosperity etc. teaching etc. He now is a Trinitarian (so I'm reading today), but has attracted more recent controversy for being more open minded on gays in church.

Benny Hinn also got lumped in with WOF for years because he experimented with some Faith and Prosperity teaching those kind of teachings. But he wan't really that WOF, he is his own thing.

Hey Pavel...
Yeah, TD is getting some criticism for being open minded to the gay community and were curious how that turns out for him. I'm sure that he sought the Lord about it...and, if we think about it... how else does the Church of Jesus Christ reach them? If not us (the Church) then who? Let's pray he gets the victory as he ministers God's Love to them.

TD Jake's in my research is not Word of Faith... and any concern about him is his close relationship with Oprah... but then again, she needs to receive Christ also. Many things are happening and time is getting shorter to reach them.

As for Benny Hinn, he's sorta in a class by himself.