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That's a nice assertion, but it really makes no sense, as DNA is the key to explaining how evolutionary inheritance worked. Darwin didn't know how alleles were passed on but he figured that scientists would eventually figure it out, and they did.

God designed life with the ability to evolve.
 
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DNA alone disproves the possibilities of any form of evolution.

GOD will use the discovery of DNA to judge all biological scientists , they all have

no excuses in this evidence and still mislead the public .

I believe Macro-Evolution (Darwinianism) is clearly false. No ape can become a human. That is just pure fantasy. There are no transitional fossils or observable evidence that Macro-Evolution is true. It is a fairy tale cooked up to replace Genesis (or the origin of things as described by the Lord our God).
Micro-Evolution is true (i.e. changes within a species own kind, meaning a butterfly will always be a butterfly, but they can adapt to their environment over generations, etc.).
 
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That's a nice assertion, but it really makes no sense, as DNA is the key to explaining how evolutionary inheritance worked. Darwin didn't know how alleles were passed on but he figured that scientists would eventually figure it out, and they did.

God designed life with the ability to evolve.
DNA provides no explanation as to the mechanism for the arrival of the fittest. It is so dependent and complex that it questions rather than supports Darwinism. DNA does not form itself by unguided natural processes in a soup of floating nucleotides.

Since God clearly spoke against the idea of a continual and never ending creation of all life and the evidence in nature suggest a begining in space and time, the belief that God designed life with the ability to evolve into totally different kinds of life is more blind faith in a position than anything else. It must be believed, not being able to be understood in detail.
 
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DNA provides no explanation as to the mechanism for the arrival of the fittest. It is so dependent and complex that it questions rather than supports Darwinism. DNA does not form itself by unguided natural processes in a soup of floating nucleotides.

I assume you mean 'survival', and the mechanism for that is simple: natural selection. Organisms that are better at passing on their DNA survive and their traits become more common in future populations.

Since God clearly spoke against the idea of a continual and never ending creation of all life

Evolution isn't creation, but rather adaptation.


and the evidence in nature suggest a begining in space and time, the belief that God designed life with the ability to evolve into totally different kinds of life is more blind faith in a position than anything else. It must be believed, not being able to be understood in detail.

This is a complete non-sequitur. Biological evolution and cosmology have nothing to do with each other.
 
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I assume you mean 'survival', and the mechanism for that is simple: natural selection.
No I meant arrival. DNA makes Darwinism difficult to believe.
Evolution isn't creation, but rather adaptation.
That’s only cause it can’t answer the question.
This is a complete non-sequitur. Biological evolution and cosmology have nothing to do with each other.
The arbitrary decision to start with an already formed replicator is only because Darwinism has no answers.
 
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No I meant arrival. DNA makes Darwinism difficult to believe.

Define "Darwinism".

That’s only cause it can’t answer the question.

It's not meant to. You might as well say that nuclear physics are useless because they can't predict economics.

The arbitrary decision to start with an already formed replicator is only because Darwinism has no answers.

Again, non-sequitur. ToE was only meant to explain the diversity of life, not its origin.
 
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Define "Darwinism".
Look it up. I didn’t invent the word.
It's not meant to. You might as well say that nuclear physics are useless because they can't predict economics.
Rhe origin of anything includes its beginning by normal definition. The origin of baseball includes its beginnings. But the origin of species can’t include its beginning cause those believers don’t know.
Again, non-sequitur. ToE was only meant to explain the diversity of life, not its origin.
Darwin wrote, “The origin of Species” not “The Diversity of Species.”

And DNA has shown that there is no mechanism for one species becoming many different Classes over time plus chance.
 
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Look it up. I didn’t invent the word.

I want to know how you are defining it.

Rhe origin of anything includes its beginning by normal definition. The origin of baseball includes its beginnings. But the origin of species can’t include its beginning cause those believers don’t know. Darwin wrote, “The origin of Species” not “The Diversity of Species.”

Species = diversity of life. The purpose is to explain why there are different species, not why there is life in the first place.

Say you see a statue and ask a historian where it came from. They tell you that it was carved by so - and - so in the year 1907. You then ask them where the rock that was used for the statue comes from. The historian doesn't know, because that's a matter of geology, not history. So therefore you declare that all of his historical knowledge is worthless. That's what you're doing.

And DNA has shown that there is no mechanism for one species becoming many different Classes over time plus chance.

Where are you getting this from? The mechanism is natural selection + mutation. Darwin didn't know how it happened but he predicted that the answer would be discovered. He was right, upon the discovery of DNA. Your argument is completely backwards.
 
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DNA alone disproves the possibilities of any form of evolution.

GOD will use the discovery of DNA to judge all biological scientists , they all have

no excuses in this evidence and still mislead the public .

Gasoline alone disproves the possibilities of any form of combustion engine.

-CryptoLutheran
 
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DNA alone disproves the possibilities of any form of evolution.

GOD will use the discovery of DNA to judge all biological scientists , they all have

no excuses in this evidence and still mislead the public .

That's a nice assertion, but it really makes no sense, as DNA is the key to explaining how evolutionary inheritance worked. Darwin didn't know how alleles were passed on but he figured that scientists would eventually figure it out, and they did.

God designed life with the ability to evolve.

I agree the OP doesn't make sense; DNA in and of itself doesn't prove one side or the other. There are logical fallacies in absolutist claims regardless of where they come from.
 
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Define "Darwinism".



It's not meant to. You might as well say that nuclear physics are useless because they can't predict economics.



Again, non-sequitur. ToE was only meant to explain the diversity of life, not its origin.


3 parts of "current view " of evolution.

1. inorganic molecules become simple organic molecules, then organic molecules become simple cell with life.
2.simple celluar life form to muti-celluar life forms , then advance to lower life forms , then to higher life forms.
3.adpatation of environment with natural selection( by spontanoues mutation of genes )



DNA questions all 3 parts and proves them wrong.

For example, any organism must have protein.

To date, all proteins have been synthesized by various organisms according to their unique genetic information. Otherwise, no matter how many amino acids are used, they are all biological products.


Where did you come from before the emergence of the creature? Many scientists have tried to artificially synthesize proteins, but their efforts have failed.

Protein is a combination of more than twenty amino acids.


The simplest biological protein molecule must have at least four hundred amino acids, and the amino acids of each protein have their specific order. Based on this calculation, assuming that the protein can be randomly synthesized, the simplest protein molecule has a synthetic probability of 10-297.


However, according to the mathematical Borel's Law, anything with a probability lower than 10-50 is impossible.

This probability disproves part1 ,part 2.


Part3 adaptation means that the design of DNA already in built to different environments (just like flight mode of your iphone).Mutation can only produces diseases not useful functions.

Can you close your eyes and by random type out the software of the Windows XP ?(DNA much more compex )

Why the DNA for insulin molecules with "cooperate" the DNA for insulin receptor ? Ha may be they have a iphone to communicate with each other



Darwin did not have the knowledge of today's genetics.
He could not correctly understand the nature of these phenomena, and thus produced a misunderstanding of evolution.

Now that we have known the truth, why should we follow Darwin's misconceptions? However, some people are still reluctant to give up the chemistry theory.
The reason is that evolution has formed a deep-rooted system for more than a hundred years, which has implicated the real interests of too many people, and it has been complicated and difficult to return.
If we abandon the theory of evolution, many people will be powerless, and evolutionists will never allow their vested interests to be challenged. Moreover, to abandon the theory of evolution, we must recognize the creation theory, and we must recognize the existence of the creator.

This is a difficult problem for those who refuse to admit that there is a god, so they would rather be wrong and go their own way.
But this has nothing to do with science, but has become a matter of conscience and morality.
 
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3 parts of "current view " of evolution.

1. inorganic molecules become simple organic molecules, then organic molecules become simple cell with life.

Stopped reading right here. That's not evolution.
 
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Then can you define your "evolution "?

"Evolution is change in the heritable characteristics of biological populations over successive generations." - here

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That's a nice assertion, but it really makes no sense, as DNA is the key to explaining how evolutionary inheritance worked. Darwin didn't know how alleles were passed on but he figured that scientists would eventually figure it out, and they did.

Yes. Ironically, the re-discovery of genetics was the one thing that made evolution compelling as a theory.
 
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I assume you mean 'survival', and the mechanism for that is simple: natural selection. Organisms that are better at passing on their DNA survive and their traits become more common in future populations.
Arrival of the fittest refers to how did the creature that is trying to survive through natural selection get there in the first place. Evolution by natural selection is good at describing how a creature survives but says nothing or rather finds it hard to explain in natural spontaneous terms how they got there in the first place.
 
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Arrival of the fittest refers to how did the creature that is trying to survive through natural selection get there in the first place.

Evolutionary theory is indifferent to how the first organisms got here. Darwin just assumed that God created the first living things.
 
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