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Discussion in 'Daily Devotionals' started by Christsfreeservant, Jun 19, 2017.

  1. Christsfreeservant

    Christsfreeservant Senior Veteran Supporter

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    Monday, June 19, 2017, 3:38 a.m. – The Lord Jesus put in mind the song “A Believer’s Prayer.” Speak, Lord, your words to my heart. I read Galatians 1 (NASB).

    To Rescue Us (vv. 1-5)

    Paul, an apostle (not sent from men nor through the agency of man, but through Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised Him from the dead), and all the brethren who are with me,

    To the churches of Galatia:

    Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ, who gave Himself for our sins so that He might rescue us from this present evil age, according to the will of our God and Father, to whom be the glory forevermore. Amen.

    What is the gospel of our salvation? It is that Jesus Christ, the Son of God (and God), came to earth, took on human flesh, suffered as we suffer, and was tempted in like manner as we are also tempted, yet without sin. Then, he was crucified on a cross, although he had done no wrong, merely because people hated him, were jealous of him, were threatened by him, didn’t like what he taught, didn’t like some of the things he did, didn’t agree with what he stood for, and didn’t believe him for who he was (and is). Yet, this was all in God’s plans and purposes from the beginning of time, that he should be our sacrificial Lamb to take away the sins of the world.

    For, you see, when we are born into this world, we are born with sin natures, separate from God, without hope of salvation, and without the promise of eternity with God. We have all sinned, and we have come up short of attaining God’s divine approval in our own merit (Ro. 3:23). So, Jesus, although he knew no sin, became sin for us that we might become the righteousness of God (2 Co. 5:21). When he died, our sins died with him, and were buried with him. But, when he was resurrected from the dead, he rose victorious over sin, hell, Satan and death. He did all this for us that we might die to sin and live to righteousness, and that we might no longer live for ourselves, but for him who gave his life up for us.

    When we believe in Jesus Christ to be Lord and Savior of our lives, we are crucified with Christ in death to sin, and we are resurrected with Christ to newness of life, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness. The old has gone. The new has come. For, you see, Jesus didn’t die that horrible death merely to free us from hell and to promise us heaven when we die. He died to radically transform our lives, to deliver us out of bondage to sin, and to free us to now become bond-slaves of his righteousness. He died that we might be rescued from the kingdom of darkness, and that we might be brought into God’s wonderful light (Jesus Christ, righteousness, and truth). Our salvation does not mean we are merely forgiven our sins so we can continue in sin without guilt. Jesus died to rescue us from this present evil age, that we might walk in his holiness and righteousness.

    A Different Gospel (vv. 6-9)

    I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel; which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!

    There are many people who are distorting the gospel of Jesus Christ, who are twisting God’s Word to make it say what their itching ears want to hear. These distortions of truth come in many different forms, all of which I cannot cover in such a short period of time. One of the most grievous ones, though, is what I term a “false grace gospel.” These people distort God’s grace to make it a free license to continue in sin without guilt and without remorse, thus they dilute the true gospel, as Jesus and his NT apostles taught it, to make it more acceptable to the world and more agreeable to the adulterous and idolatrous church. Thus, they teach that God requires nothing of us – no repentance, no obedience and no submission to Christ and to his cross.

    The gospel message they end up with is no gospel at all, because it leaves its adherents still in slavery (addiction) to sin. Now, this is not to say that we will never sin, but that, as followers of Christ, sin should no longer be our master or us its slaves, for Jesus freed us from slavery to sin, if truly we have trusted in him to be Lord (owner-master) and Savior of our lives. We should no longer walk (in lifestyle; habitually) according to our flesh, but now according to the Spirit of God. For, if we walk (conduct our lives) according to the flesh, WE WILL DIE IN OUR SINS. But, if by the Spirit we are putting to death the deeds of the flesh, we will live with Christ for eternity (See: Ro. 6:1-23; Ro. 8:1-14; Eph. 4:17-24; 1 Jn. 2:1-2).

    What many of these false teachers are telling people is that all they have to do is believe in the existence of Jesus Christ, and accept his forgiveness of their sins, and that now they have heaven guaranteed them, and it cannot be taken away from them, no matter how they live from this point forward. But, that is not salvation! That is just carte blanche to continue living in sin while believing that you will still go to heaven when you die. But, where is the freedom from slavery to sin in that? There isn’t any, because there is no death to sin, and no resurrection to new lives in Christ Jesus. There is no new birth (being born again) of the Spirit of God, because there has been no death to the old life of living in sin and for self (Lu. 9:23-25; Ro. 8:1-14).

    Pleasing God, Not Man (vv. 10-12)

    For am I now seeking the favor of men, or of God? Or am I striving to please men? If I were still trying to please men, I would not be a bond-servant of Christ.

    For I would have you know, brethren, that the gospel which was preached by me is not according to man. For I neither received it from man, nor was I taught it, but I received it through a revelation of Jesus Christ.

    I hear many of these false teachers also tell their listeners that God is pleased with us no matter what we do, and that he smiles on us and that he delights in us even when we are engrossed in sin and willful rebellion against him. This is not freedom from sin! This is giving excuses for continued sin against God, and giving God’s blessings upon it, too. Oh, how wrong!

    If God is pleased with us with everything we do, even when we are ignoring his Word, and going our own stubborn way, then why does scripture teach us that we need to find out what pleases him and to do it? Why does scripture teach us what does please God? Why does it say that “those who are in the realm of the flesh cannot please God”? And, why does it say that “whoever sows to please their flesh, from the flesh will reap destruction; whoever sows to please the Spirit, from the Spirit will reap eternal life”? (See: Ro. 8:8; 2 Co. 5:9; Gal. 6:8; Eph. 5:10; Col. 1:9-11; 1 Thess. 2:4; 1 Thess. 4:1; 2 Tim. 2:4; Heb. 11:6; Heb. 13:6; & 1 Jn. 3:22.)

    Jesus died on that cross for our sins that we might die to sin and live to please him, and that we might become followers of God, and not of man (humans). What is the point of our salvation if all we do is try to look for loopholes in God’s Word to excuse away our sin, and to try to avoid obeying it? Isn’t that counterproductive? We can’t be servants of the Lord and slaves to sin and the flesh, too. If we hold on to our old lives of living for sin and self, we will lose them for eternity. But, if we lose our lives (die to sin) for the sake of Jesus Christ, we will have eternal life with God (Lu. 9:23-25).

    A Believer’s Prayer
    An Original Work / July 31, 2012

    With my whole heart, Lord, I pray
    To be Yours, and Yours always.
    Lead me in Your truth today.
    May I love You, and obey.
    Lead me in Your righteousness.
    When I sin, may I confess;
    Bow before You when I pray;
    Live for You and You always.

    Love You, Jesus, You’re my friend.
    Life with You will never end.
    You are with me through each day,
    Giving love and peace always.
    You will ne’er abandon me.
    From my sin You set me free.
    You died on that cruel tree,
    So I’d live eternally.

    Soon You’re coming back for me;
    From this world to set me free;
    Live with You eternally.
    Oh, what joy that brings to me.
    I will walk with You in white;
    A pure bride, I’ve been made right
    By the blood of Jesus Christ;
    Pardoned by His sacrifice.

  2. Jason0047

    Jason0047 Agent for Christ Supporter

    Without holiness, no man shall see the Lord (Hebrews 12:14).

    Some take this to mean that they are believing on Jesus while they either:

    (a) Live in sin (and think they are saved).
    (b) Minimize sin and or teach that no sin can separate you from God and yet they strive to live holy (and yet they think they are saved); They think that dying in one or two unrepenant sins does not mean one is not saved in every case.​

    Yet, God warns us of the false doctrine of Eternal Security by the first lie from the devil in the Garden of Eden. For devil said to Eve, "Yea, ye shall not surely die." (Genesis 3:4). This is the lie that is being pushed in the churches today. It is popular because you can serve God and your sin (on some level) and still be saved or in His good graces.

    I believe people who have a basic understanding of morality will just know that Eternal Security is false or stinks from the moment they hear it. I am glad that God brought me up to understand morality even before I accepted Christ as my Savior. I knew that good guys do good and bad guys do evil. A belief alone does not mean anything unless one's actions back it up in what it says.

    There are even those who are against the teaching of Sinless Perfection in the Bible.
    This to me is a problem because Jesus says be ye perfect as the Heavenly Father is perfect.
    Paul says we are to cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh, perfecting holiness in the fear of God. Paul also says, "That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world;" (Philippians 2:15). Blameless. That is what Paul says. Jesus says be ye perfect. God's Word says be ye holy because I am holy. But people like to knock that idea down. They think, "Nah, the Bible does not really mean these things because nobody can be perfect, or blameless, etc." But they are wrong. God's Word is true. Even if nobody was living perfectly today, the Bible would still be true to teach that a person can live perfectly. This of course would only be by the power of Jesus working in them. Many today just do not believe what the Scriptures say. They mock those who seek to follow God's Word alone and or they mock those who seek to be holy and be perfect. This is not how God intended it to be. God wants us to be servants to Him and not to ourselves or our sin.

    Jesus says,
    "The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master." (Luke 6:40).

    The question is: Do we believe Jesus's words plainly here or do we seek to change them so as to fit a man made lie or belief that we have been told so many times it has become truth?

    Yes, we are initially and ultimately saved by God's grace, but if Jesus lives inside of us (Who is the source of our life and salvation - 1 John 5:12), then the fruit or good works of Christ will be evident within our lives. A desire to walk perfectly as God truly desires us to be should be within us when we see these words with His Holy Word.

    So let us walk as God calls us to walk perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

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  3. Pilgrim

    Pilgrim Praying without ceasing Supporter

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    Many people want to avoid the sin subject, but it is the one subject we must face at all times. Pray without ceasing and remain in the constant presence of our Lord. The Holy Spirit is always there to convict and correct us, turning us quickly back to God. I pray for all people who are walking in darkness, to see the Light of Jesus, and let Him into their heart. We cannot live in sin and walk with Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior. Heavenly Father, help us at all times to lose our self in Christ, and strengthen our walk, as servants to God's will. Blessed be the man who walks not among the wicked, but walks with Christ Jesus, our Lord and Savior.
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  4. Christsfreeservant

    Christsfreeservant Senior Veteran Supporter

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    @Jason0047 - Thank you for your response. I appreciate your thoughts, and the message behind them, and for you sharing them here in this thread. When it comes to the subject of sinless perfection, though, I am not sure what exactly you mean by that, so let me share what I believe scripture teaches on this subject:

    This is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you, that God is Light, and in Him there is no darkness at all. 6 If we say that we have fellowship with Him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth; 7 but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in the Light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin. 8 If we say that we have no sin, we are deceiving ourselves and the truth is not in us. 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. 10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make Him a liar and His word is not in us. (1 Jn. 1:5-10)

    My little children, I am writing these things to you so that you may not sin. And if anyone sins, we have an Advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous; 2 and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world.

    3 By this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments. 4 The one who says, “I have come to know Him,” and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him; 5 but whoever keeps His word, in him the love of God has truly been perfected. By this we know that we are in Him: 6 the one who says he abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as He walked. (1 Jn. 2:1-6)


    This is what I believe the Bible teaches regarding sinless perfection: When we believe in Jesus Christ as Lord and as Savior of our lives, we are crucified with Christ in death to sin that we might live with Christ in newness of life, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness; that we might live to his righteousness. Jesus’ righteousness is, thus, credited to our account, so that we are made righteous in him. Yet, we need to walk in that righteousness. If we walk (in lifestyle) in darkness (sin, wickedness), but say we have fellowship with God, we are liars and we do not live by the truth. Yet, if we walk (conduct our lives) in the light (Jesus, truth, righteousness, the gospel), we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus cleanses us from every sin.

    The goal of our salvation is to free us from slavery to sin so that we would no longer walk in it. Yet, if we are in Christ Jesus by faith, and we do sin, Jesus is our advocate to the Father. We are not condemned if at any time we commit a singular sin, but if we practice sinning or we walk in sin, then we are condemned. Yet, the way in which we know that we truly know God (Jesus) is that we are keeping (present tense) his commands (his instructions to us), i.e. that this is our practice to obey the Lord and his Word, and that it is not our practice to not obey God’s Word. We also ought to walk (in lifestyle; daily conduct) in keeping with or in the (like) manner in which Jesus walked (following his example).


    And He was saying to them all, “If anyone wishes to come after Me, he must deny himself, and take up his cross daily and follow Me. 24 For whoever wishes to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for My sake, he is the one who will save it. 25 For what is a man profited if he gains the whole world, and loses or forfeits himself? 26 For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when He comes in His glory, and the glory of the Father and of the holy angels. (Luke 9:23-26)

    For what the Law could not do, weak as it was through the flesh, God did: sending His own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and as an offering for sin, He condemned sin in the flesh, 4 so that the requirement of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. 5 For those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, the things of the Spirit. 6 For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace, 7 because the mind set on the flesh is hostile toward God; for it does not subject itself to the law of God, for it is not even able to do so, 8 and those who are in the flesh cannot please God.

    9 However, you are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if indeed the Spirit of God dwells in you. But if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Him. 10 If Christ is in you, though the body is dead because of sin, yet the spirit is alive because of righteousness. 11 But if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, He who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through His Spirit who dwells in you.

    12 So then, brethren, we are under obligation, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh— 13 for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live. 14 For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. (Ro. 8:1-14)


    Both the Luke passage (Jesus’ words) and the Romans passage (penned by Paul, but God’s words) have a similar message as to the one in 1 John (cf. Eph. 4:17-24). First of all, coming to faith in Jesus Christ means death to sin and being resurrected with Christ to newness of life, which is to be lived to Christ and to his righteousness (cf. Ro. 6:1-23). Second of all, we must forsake our former way of life of living to sin and self, and we must now walk (in lifestyle) according to (in agreement with) the Spirit of God and no longer according to our sinful flesh, to fulfill our fleshly desires. For, if we walk according to our flesh, or if we hold on to our old lives, we will die in our sins, and we don’t have the hope of eternal life with God.

    The goal of our faith is that we live to please our Lord, that we walk in fellowship with him, that we obey his commands (his instructions to us), and that we no longer live to gratify the cravings of our sinful flesh. Yet, sanctification is a process, not that this is an excuse for continued willful sin against God, for it isn’t. what I mean is that Jesus said daily we take up our cross and follow (obey) him, and Paul said that if by the Spirit we are putting to death the deeds of the flesh, we will live. Paul said he wasn’t already perfect, but he pressed on toward the goal. So, we should not continue in sin or practice sin or walk in sin, for if we do, we don’t have the hope of eternal life, but if we should commit a sin, we have Jesus as our advocate to the Father, and if by the Spirit we are daily putting sin to death, then we will live.
  5. Christsfreeservant

    Christsfreeservant Senior Veteran Supporter

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    Ye shall therefore be perfect, as your Father who is in the heavens is perfect (Matt. 5:48 YLT). “Shall be” is future tense. And, perfect is:

    perfect, (a) complete in all its parts, (b) full grown, of full age, (c) specially of the completeness of Christian character.

    HELPS Word-studies
    Cognate: 5046 téleios (an adjective, derived from 5056 /télos, "consummated goal") – mature (consummated) from going through the necessary stages to reach the end-goal, i.e. developed into a consummating completion by fulfilling the necessary process (spiritual journey). See 5056 (telos).

    [This root (tel-) means "reaching the end (aim)." It is well-illustrated with the old pirate's telescope, unfolding (extending out) one stage at a time to function at full-strength (capacity effectiveness).] Strong's Greek: 5046. τέλειος (teleios) -- having reached its end, i.e. complete, by ext. perfect
  6. Christsfreeservant

    Christsfreeservant Senior Veteran Supporter

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    @Jason0047 -
    Not that I have already obtained this or am already perfect, but I press on to make it my own, because Christ Jesus has made me his own. (Phil. 3:12)

    I complete, accomplish, make perfect

    Definition: (a) as a course, a race, or the like: I complete, finish (b) as of time or prediction: I accomplish, (c) I make perfect; pass: I am perfected.

    HELPS Word-studies

    Cognate: 5048 teleióō – to consummate, reaching the end-stage, i.e. working through the entire process (stages) to reach the final phase (conclusion). See 5056 (telos).

    [This root (tel-) means "reaching the end (aim)." It is well-illustrated with the old pirate's telescope, unfolding (extending out) one stage at a time to function at full-strength (capacity effectiveness).] Strong's Greek: 5048. τελειόω (teleioó) -- to bring to an end, to complete, perfect
  7. Jason0047

    Jason0047 Agent for Christ Supporter

    This is not my first rodeo or discussion involving Sinless Perfection.
    Oh, and yes; I believe Sinless Perfectionism is the goal of our Sanctification (in this life) as Paul also believed. Anyways, here is a 50 point...

    Biblical Defense of Sinless Perfectionism:

    List of Verses For Sinless Perfectionism (a.k.a. Entire Sanctification) in Scripture:
    1. The 144,000 are found without fault before the throne of God. For John says, “And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.” (Revelation 14:3-5).

    2. Enoch was translated and did not see death because he walked with the LORD and pleased GOD. For the author of Hebrews says, “By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.” (Hebrews 11:5); And Moses had written in the Torah, “And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.” (Genesis 5:24).

    3. Jesus says, “Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.” (Matthew 5:48).

    4. GOD says, “Be ye holy as I am holy” (1 Peter 1:16 cf. Leviticus 11:45).

    5. Jesus said to two people to, "sin no more." (John 5:14) (John 8:11). In fact, Jesus said to the man that Jesus healed that if he were to sin again, a worse thing would come upon him. For Jesus said, “sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee.” (John 5:14).

    6. Jesus says, “If you want to be perfect sell your possessions and give them to the poor” (Matthew 19:21).

    7. We are told in Scripture that he [i.e. anyone] that has suffered in the flesh has ceased from sin. For Peter says, “Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;” (1 Peter 4:1).

    8. Paul says, “And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.” (Galatians 5:24).

    9. James says, “If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body.” (James 3:2).

    10. Paul says, “There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.” (1 Corinthians 10:13).

    11. David says, “Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.” (Psalms 119:11).

    12. Paul says, “Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. For he that is dead is freed from sin. Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him” (Romans 6:6-8).

    13. Paul says, “Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.” (Romans 6:12). John says, “sin not.” (1 John 2:1).

    14. Paul says, “For sin shall not have dominion over you.” (Romans 6:14).

    15. Paul says, “Don't you realize that you become the slave of whatever you choose to obey? You can be a slave to sin, which leads to death, or you can choose to obey God, which leads to righteous living.” (Romans NLT). Jesus says, everyone who sins is a slave to sin. (John 8:34). John says he that sins is of the devil (1 John 1:8).

    16. Paul says, “You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness.” (Romans 6:18 NIV).

    17. Paul says, “For when you were slaves of sin, you were free from righteousness.” (Romans 6:20 BLB). Paul also says, “But now that you have been freed from sin and have become God's slaves, the benefit you reap is sanctification, and the result is eternal life.” (Romans 6:22 ISV).

    18. Peter says, “there are false prophets... who cannot cease from sin.” (2 Peter 2:1, 2 Peter 2:14). This is similar to those who are lovers of pleasure more than they are lovers of GOD (1 Timothy 3:1-9). For he that says he knows him and does not keep his commandments is a liar and the truth is not in Him (1 John 2:4).

    19. Jesus says, “Watch and pray, that ye enter not into temptation: the spirit indeed is willing, but the flesh is weak.” (Matthew 26:41). What is the point of watching and praying so as not to be led into temptation if you are going to inevitably sin again?

    20. Paul says “Be ye angry, and sin not:” (Ephesians 4:26).

    21. John says, “Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.” (1 John 3:9-10)

    22. John says,“For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, even our faith.” (1 John 5:4). John also says, “For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.” (1 John 2:16). For John says, “Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.” (1 John 2:15).

    23. Paul says, “Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God: I speak this to your shame.” (1 Corinthians 15:34).

    24. The author of Hebrews says, “Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, Make you perfect in every good work to do his will, working in you that which is well pleasing in his sight, through Jesus Christ; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen” (Hebrews 13:20-21).

    25. John says, “We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not. And we know that we are of God, and the whole world lieth in wickedness” (1 John 5:18-19).

    26. Sinless Perfectionism is the goal for a believer’s life. For Paul says, “Not that I have already obtained it [this goal of being Christlike] or have already been made perfect, but I actively press on so that I may take hold of that [perfection] for which Christ Jesus took hold of me and made me His own.” (Philippians 3:12 AMP).

    27. Jesus says, “The disciple is not above his master: but every one that is perfect shall be as his master.” (Luke 6:40).

    28. Paul says, “Epaphras, who is one of you, a servant of Christ, saluteth you, always labouring fervently for you in prayers, that ye may stand perfect and complete in all the will of God.” (Colossians 4:12).

    29. Paul says, “All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.” (2 Timothy 3:16-17).

    30. James says, “But let patience have her perfect work, that ye may be perfect and entire, wanting nothing.” (James 1:4). James also says, ““Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?” (James 2:22).

    31. Jesus says, ““Be watchful, and strengthen the things which remain, that are ready to die: for I have not found thy works perfect before God.” (Revelation 3:2).

    32. Paul says, “Having therefore these promises, dearly beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.” (2 Corinthians 7:1).

    33. Paul says, “I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,” (Ephesians 4:1).

    34. Paul says, “For this is the will of God, even your sanctification, that ye should abstain from fornication: That every one of you should know how to possess his vessel in sanctification and honour;” (1 Thessalonians 4:3-4). Paul also says, “For God hath not called us unto uncleanness, but unto holiness.” (1 Thessalonians 4:7).

    35. Zacharias says, “That he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear, In holiness and righteousness before him, all the days of our life.” (Luke 1:74-75).

    36. Paul says, “And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven. And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled In thebody of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight: If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;” (Colossians 1:20-23).

    37. Paul says, “And may the Lord make you increase and abound in love for one another and for all men, even as we do for you. To this end may He establish your hearts to be blameless in holiness beforeour God and Father at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all His saints.” (1 Thessalonians 3:12-13 MEV).

    38. Paul says,“Men, brothers, I have conducted-myself with all good conscience before God up to this day” (Acts 23:1 DLNT)

    39. Paul says, “This work must continue until we are all joined together in the same faith [or all reachunity in the faith] and in the same knowledge of the Son of God. We must become like a mature person [or the perfect Man; Christ], growing until we become like Christ and have his perfection [ to the measure of the stature of Christ’s fullness ].” (Ephesians 4:13 EXB).

    40. Paul says, “It is he whom we proclaim, admonishing everyone and teaching everyone with all wisdom, that we may present everyone perfect in Christ” (Colossians 1:28 NABRE).

    41. Paul says, “For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.” (2 Corinthians 11:2).

    42. Paul says, “In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ” (Colossians 2:11).

    43. Paul says, “And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.” (1 Thessalonians 5:23).

    44. The author Hebrews says, “Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord” (Hebrews 12:14).

    45. Paul says, “Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish” (Ephesians 5:25-27). Jesus says, “Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world. And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.” (John 17:17-19). For Jesus says, “Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you” (John 15:3).

    46. John says, “For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.” (1 John 3:8).

    47. Paul says, “But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:” (2 Thessalonians 2:13).

    48. Jesus says, “So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests. And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment: And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless. Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness, there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth” (Matthew 22:10-13). A Multitude of People in Heaven says, “Let us be glad and rejoice, and give honour to him: for the marriage of the Lamb is come, and his wife hath made herself ready. And to her was granted that she should be arrayed in fine linen, clean and white: for the fine linen is the righteousness of saints.(Revelation 19:7-8). Note: the fine linen that represents the righteousness of the saints is the same wedding garment that the man at the wedding did not have on.

    49. Paul says, “That ye may be blameless and harmless, the sons of God, without rebuke, in the midst of a crooked and perverse nation, among whom ye shine as lights in the world.” (Philippians 2:15).

    50. John says, “But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know wethat we are in him.” (1 John 2:5).

  8. Jason0047

    Jason0047 Agent for Christ Supporter

    Also, when I read these many verses, in context it is not talking about being perfect after we die. That makes absolutely no sense to suggest that. Jesus says be ye perfect as the Heavenly Father is perfect. This is a command for us now and not later!

  9. Christsfreeservant

    Christsfreeservant Senior Veteran Supporter

    United States
    @Jason0047 - the verb tense is future tense:

  10. Jason0047

    Jason0047 Agent for Christ Supporter

    Sorry. You did not grow up speaking and writing Greek as a part of your culture.
    Just read your Bible in the English.
    God preserved His Word for us today for today's world language.
    Besides, it is nonsense for Christ to tell us to be ye perfect in a future sense.
    Why is Christ commanding me to do something in the future that I cannot do yet?
    It's non-sense. Gobbleygook. Silly. There are also tons of other verses that tell me to be perfect in the here and now, too.

    Read 1 Peter 4:1-2. It says that we can cease from sin if we suffer in the flesh. Then it says we should not live the rest of our time to the lusts of the flesh but to the will of God. Okay. Right here your whole theory is debunked on playing around with the Greek. It says it plain as day.