Dispensationalism and Its Focus Upon the Multitude Rather Than On the Remnant

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Dispensationalism and Its Focus Upon the Multitude Rather Than On the Remnant

The ekklesia as the multitude in prophecy goes into false doctrines, but the remnant is a small group who remain faithful to the doctrines taught by God as Jesus Christ and through his prophets. Dispensationalism tends to exalt the multitude and does not recognize the remnant.

The dispensationalist church does not acknowledge the existence of a remnant. If they did it would be, for them, the remnant of the church. There is no remnant of the church in scripture, only the remnant of Israel. Under the New Covenant the remnant of Israel is the remnant of Israel reborn in Jesus Christ, who have his testimony (Revelation 12: 17). Dispensationalists deal with the big group, the entire church, the broad way of Matthew 7: 13-14, "Enter ye at the straight gate,: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat. Because straight is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."

Not having a knowledge of the remnant in New Testament times is correlated with the failure of dispensationalism to see that the prophecies in the Old Testament saying that God was to transform Old Covenant Israel were fulfilled in the remnant who accepted Christ. This remnant of Old Covenant Israel who accepted Christ is seen in Romans 11: 1-5.

"From the time of Christ’s rejection by Israel until the time when God deals specifically with Israel again in the seventieth week it is not possible to refer to a remnant of the nation Israel." Things to Come: A Study in Biblical Eschatology, 1965, by J. Dwight Pentecost

Saying there is no remnant of Israel in the Christian era would imply also that there is no falling away from sound doctrine in II Thessalonians 2: 3-4.

There are several scriptures that predict that there is to be a falling away from sound doctrine. Luke 13: 20-21 identifies what is to be leavened, that which goes into false doctrines, as the Kingdom of God.

II Thessalonians 2: 3 says "Let no man deceive you by any means: for
that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and
that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;"

I Timothy 4: 1-2 says "Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the
latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing
spirits, and doctrines of devils;
2.Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a
hot iron;"

II Timothy 4: 3-4 says "For the time will come when they will not
endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to
themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4.And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be
turned unto fables."

II Timothy 3: 1-2, 5, 7-8 says "This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy..........,Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.........Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
8. Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.

Luke 13: 20-21 says "And again he said, Whereunto shall I liken the kingdom of God?
21. It is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened. Luke 13: 20-21

The word till indicates that the leavening of the Kingdom of God goes on for a period of time until the whole is leavened.

Matthew 13: 27-30 says ""So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
28. He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up? 29. But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
30. Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.

Then, II Peter 2: 1-3 says "But there were false prophets also among
the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who
privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that
bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the
way of truth shall be evil spoken of."
3. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make
merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not,
and their damnation slumbereth not."

Except for Luke 13: 20-21, which says the Kingdom of God is to be leavened, none of these scriptures identifies what is to fall away or go into false doctrines.

If we identify the Kingdom of God in Luke 13: 20-21 as the ekklesia, the little c church, the congregations, then we see that scripture predicts a time, or times, when the congregations fall away from sound doctrine and go into apostasy. In II Thessalonians 2: 3 the Greek word translated as falling away is αποστασια, apostasia.

The scriptures above prophesy a time when the multitude will be in apostasia, when the fullness of the apostasy has arrived. "And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up." Daniel 8: 23

"Transgressors" in Daniel 8: 23 are not just sinners, those who lie, murder etc. Strong's Exhaustive Concordance says, number 6586, pasha, means "to break away from just authority, trespass, apostatize, quarrel, offend, rebel, revolt, transgress."

The transgressors in Daniel 8: 23, who are said to come to their fullness, are the False Prophets who break away from the authority of God and his Word, apostatize and quarrel against the Word.

In II Peter 2: 1-3 it is the False Prophets who bring in damnable heresies and in Matthew 24: 11 "...many False Prophets shall arise and shall deceive many." Deceive is used four times in Matthew 24 to describe the work of the False Prophets, the ones who bring in the falling away from sound doctrines. Revelation 13: 11-12: "And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
12. And he exerciseth all the power of the first beast before him, and causeth the earth and them which dwell therein to worship the first beast, whose deadly wound was healed.

The second beast of Revelation 13 appears like a lamb, but he speaks as a dragon. How does a dragon speak? He speaks deception, as the many false prophets of Matthew 24: 44 are said to be deceptive. As part of the Dragon Speak Deception, Dean Gotcher has taught that the procedure of argument that the Dragon-Serpent used on Eve in Genesis 3: 1-6 to fix her obedience to God is the dialectic within dialogue. I am not sure when Gotcher found the Greek word αντιθεσεις in I Timothy 6: 20 and recognized it as part of the pre-Christ interest in the dialectic way of argument within early Greek philosophy. But in a brief and subtle way Paul warns against the use of the dialectic there. There are other Greek words that mean opposition, but Paul in I Timothy 6: 20 Paul used αντιθεσεις, antitheseis, or in English anti-thesis, which is part of the early Greek philosophy on the διαλεκτική, or in English the dialectic.

In the early Greek theory of dialectic argument, there is the thesis and the anti-thesis which are said to clash and result in a synthesis. It is the anti-thesis, or the opposition to the thesis, that Paul brings up in I Timothy 6: 20. The German philosopher Hegel brought the early Greek theory of dialectic argument into modern philosophy, and it came to be known as the Hegelian dialectic, which was taken over by Marxists and later in the 20th century was made into a procedure for attitude and belief change within the social psychology area of research called Group Dynamics, led by Kurt Lewin, Leon Festinger, and Kurt W. Back,
and in the Encounter Group movement under Carl R. Rogers, William Coulson and others. Rogers and Coulson were among the early facilitators in the Encounter Group movement of the sixties in California.
 

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northwye, you are wrong in what you posted.

There are various camps of beliefs within Dispensationism. For example, there is a Mid-Acts Dispensational named Les Feldick, whose teaching programs are televised in most large metro areas on a daily basis. (They have been broadcast since the early 1990's, I believe.) I listened to his programs for over twelve years and recorded them when I was not able to watch them each day. His program is called "Through The Bible, with Les Feldick." He teaches the Bible from cover to cover so if you were to watch one of his programs at random you might not catch it, but Les addresses what you have brought up. Les, with his Mid-Acts point-of-view, teaches that the remnant Jews who are raptured to Heaven with the Gentile believers will have to return to Earth from Heaven to be with the rest of the Jews who will forever be located on the Earth. He claims that the Gentile Church will forever remain in Heaven and will come down toward the Earth on the New Jerusalem which will remain planetary to the Earth. The Jews receive their earthly blessings and the Gentile believers receive their heavenly blessings. On occasion Feldick will mention books by Sir Robert Anderson and C.R. Stam.
 
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As with all opponents of Dispensationalism in general, let alone, Mid-Acts in particular, Northwye's is the usual failure to understand the Apostle Paul on "remnant" issues as dealt with by Paul, say, in Romans.

Even within Mid-Acts itself there is now an old group that had that wrong and that has been making a resurgence.

But that is another subject.

In Scripture, during those times where God is DIRECTLY dealing with Israel AS A NATION, there is ever a distinction between that nation IN GENERAL, and a BELIEVING Remnant WITHIN said Nation.

In Scripture, it is in and through their BELIEVING Remnant (Multiplied Seed) that Christ (Singular Seed) will do what The Father HAS PROPHESIED He WILL do one day - AFTER His PROPHESIED "wrath to come."

Acts 3:18 But those things, which God before had shewed by the mouth of all his prophets, that Christ should suffer, he hath so fulfilled. 3:19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; 3:20 And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you: 3:21 Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began. 3:22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. 3:23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people. 3:24 Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days. 3:25 Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed. 3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus, sent him to bless you, in turning away every one of you from his iniquities.

Did that NATION repent?

What do we read in Scripture about what the MULITITUDE of THAT NATION did with THEIR re-offer of Christ as their Saviour-King?

THEY committed the Unpardonable sin, THEY had been warned would NOT be forgiven them.

This warning, here...

Matthew 12:30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad. 12:31 Wherefore I say unto you, All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men. 12:32 And whosoever speaketh a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him: but whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come. 12:33 Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit. 12:34 O generation of vipers, how can ye, being evil, speak good things? for out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaketh. 12:35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things. 12:36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 12:37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.

And here is the very pronouncement of that sin...

Acts 7:51 Ye stiffnecked and uncircumcised in heart and ears, ye do always resist the Holy Ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye. 7:52 Which of the prophets have not your fathers persecuted? and they have slain them which shewed before of the coming of the Just One; of whom ye have been now the betrayers and murderers: 7:53 Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it. 7:54 When they heard these things, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth.

What of THEIR BELIEVING Remnant? I'll get back to this in a sec...

First, Israel's status AS A NATION in GOD's Eyes...

In Romans 1:18-2:16, Paul goes into how the Gentiles came to be "without God in the world."

Then, in 2:17 forward, he deals with Israel's status AS A NATION under God.

Romans 2:17 Behold, thou art called a Jew, and restest in the law, and makest thy boast of God, 2:18 And knowest his will, and approvest the things that are more excellent, being instructed out of the law; 2:19 And art confident that thou thyself art a guide of the blind, a light of them which are in darkness, 2:20 An instructor of the foolish, a teacher of babes, which hast the form of knowledge and of the truth in the law.

2:23 Thou that makest thy boast of the law, through breaking the law dishonourest thou God? 2:24 For the name of God is blasphemed among the Gentiles through you, as it is written. 2:25 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.

Paul then briefly touches on THEIR BELIEVING Remnant, and then returns to the issue of THEIR MAJORITY...

THEIR Believing Remnant...

Romans 3:1 What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision? 3:2 Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God. 3:3 For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of God without effect?

THEIR Majority - concluded in UNBELIEF with the Gentiles, or spiritual UNCIRCUMCISION...

3:9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin; 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 3:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

With the exception of THEIR Believing Remmant, the NATION Israel was now UNCIRCUMCISION...God having TURNED from THEM in His wrath, just as He had once done with the Gentiles.

Paul notes the same thing that Stephen noted about the NATION Israel's spiritual UNCIRCUMCISION status before God, at the end of Acts 7...

1 Thessalonians 2:15 Who both killed the Lord Jesus, and their own prophets, and have persecuted us; and they please not God, and are contrary to all men: 2:16 Forbidding us to speak to the Gentiles that they might be saved, to fill up their sins alway: for the wrath is come upon them to the uttermost.

Just as with the Gentiles, all those centuries ago...

Romans 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 1:23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things. 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

And so on...

Romans 3:9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin; 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 3:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

Only this time around...

Romans 11:30 For as ye (Gentiles) in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their (Israel's) unbelief: 11:31 Even so have these (Israel) also now not believed, that through your mercy they (Israel) also may obtain mercy. 11:32 For God hath concluded them all (Both) in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all (Both). 11:33 O the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! how unsearchable are his judgments, and his ways past finding out!

But prior to God's concluding THE NATION Israel under sin, or spiritual UNCIRCUMCISION WITH the Gentiles, God FIRST SEALED THEIR Believing Remnant.

And this was PRIOR TO Paul and into his day...

Romans 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace. 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work. 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.

What confuses people is their failure to see that Paul was not of that group. That Paul had blasphemed the Spirit.

Acts 7:57 Then they cried out with a loud voice, and stopped their ears, and ran upon him with one accord, 7:58 And cast him out of the city, and stoned him: and the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young man's feet, whose name was Saul.

Acts 8:1 And Saul was consenting unto his death. And at that time there was a great persecution against the church which was at Jerusalem; and they were all scattered abroad throughout the regions of Judaea and Samaria, except the apostles. 8:2 And devout men carried Stephen to his burial, and made great lamentation over him. 8:3 As for Saul, he made havock of the church, entering into every house, and haling men and women committed them to prison.

In other words, Paul was saved AFTER the Believing Remnant of that Nation was sealed by God, and the rest, including Paul, were concluded in UNBELIEF or UNCIRCUMCISION, with the Gentiles...

Unto what Purpose was Paul and those after him, saved?

Unto God's Prophesied Purpose for the Earth?

Nope.

Ephesians 2:1 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins; 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience: 2:3 Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others. 2:4 But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us, 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved; ) 2:6 And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus: 2:7 That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

That's right - unto a purpose in HEAVENLY PLACES itself.

In other words, this here...

Ephesians 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

Was AFTER this here...

Romans 3:9 What then? are we better than they? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin; 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: 3:11 There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

And that was AFTER this here...

Romans 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace. 11:6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work. 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.

For what Paul is actually asserting by his "Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace" is that although it looked as if God was through with His PROPHESIED Plans and Purpose for THE EARTH THROUGH a one day redeemed NATION ISRAEL, such was not the case...

Paul has been laying out some of this ACTUAL distinction in Romans 9 and 10.

And in Romans 11, he begins to summarize it all - that God is NOT through with HIS Plans and Purpose with Israel AS A NATION anymore than He was when things had looked that way in ISRAEL's past...

Romans 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 11:2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying, 11:3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life. 11:4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal. 11:5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.

Paul's point being that God had sealed THEIR BELIEVING Remnant, put His PROPHESIED Plan and Purpose for THE EARTH through THEM on hold (Peter's offer in Acts 3) and was now calling BOTH LOST Jews and Gentiles AS INDIVIDUALS and towards a previously KEPT SECRET Purpose that has to do, not with His Plan for the Earth BUT for the HEAVENLY Places, and via a NEW Creature.

THIS is God's TWO-Fold Purpose: one was PROPHESIED and concerns the EARTH.

The other was KEPT SECRET, and concerns HEAVENLY Places...

Both center in the Lord Jesus Christ...

Ephesians 3:15 Of whom the whole family in heaven and earth is named,

Notice how that the issue as to either realm is the issue of Governmental Authorites in each...

Colossians 1:16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 1:17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist. 1:18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence. 1:19 For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; 1:20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.

In other words, without His reconciling first, the HEAVENLY Realm back unto Himself...

This here...

Ephesians 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

His plan and purpose for the Earth; will only continue to be interfered with...

This here...

John 1:49 Nathanael answered and saith unto him, Rabbi, thou art the Son of God; thou art the King of Israel.

1:51 And he saith unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Hereafter ye shall see heaven open, and the angels of God ascending and descending upon the Son of man.

That is impossible right now.

An example of why it is, is that continued interference asserted there in Ephesians 6.

Israel's Believing Remnant today?

No such thing today.

No favorite nation today. None.

Only nations of lost people, this side of Israel's fall and temporary setting aside "until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in" Rom. 11: 25.

Both in need, during this present Mystery Age, of this Mystery Age's GENTILE or UNCIRCUMCISION salvation, Eph. 2.

In remembrance of Rom. 5:6-8 - In each our stead.
















 
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