Disciples of Christ

[SeekerOfChrist94]

Does anyone here go to a Disciples of Christ church? I only ever seen conversations about the acapella Church of Christ congregations. I've been wanting to visit a DOC church and I'm interested in hearing about why you go to one.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Does anyone here go to a Disciples of Christ church? I only ever seen conversations about the acapella Church of Christ congregations. I've been wanting to visit a DOC church and I'm interested in hearing about why you go to one.

I don't, but I do affiliate with the "middle" church of the Restoration Movement, i.e. The Christian Church. So, you have three to choose from, not two.

Ultra-Conservative: Church of Christ (non-instrumental)
Evangelical: The Christian Church (instrumental)
Moderate/Liberal (leaning): The Disciples of Christ

 

[Leboman]

I preach in an independent Church of Christ that left the DOC back in the early 1970s. We would fall into that middle category.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

I preach in an independent Church of Christ that left the DOC back in the early 1970s. We would fall into that middle category.

Hello Leboman,

Are you Church of Christ/Instrumental, then? I forget sometimes that the instrumental/non-instrumental affiliation in Restorationist churches can vary, depending on whether one is in the North versus the South in the U.S (and Canada).

Peace,
2PhiloVoid

 

[A3M0N]

Not all Churches of Christ are "ultra-conservative", unless you're defining it solely based on use of musical instruments in worship. Then yes, most Churches of Christ do not use instruments, but wouldn't label them all as ultra-conservative.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Not all Churches of Christ are "ultra-conservative", unless you're defining it solely based on use of musical instruments in worship. Then yes, most Churches of Christ do not use instruments, but wouldn't label them all as ultra-conservative.

True, enough, A3M0N. I'm sure they're not. But, when one of my former pastors, who used to be a Church of Christ pastor, crossed a line of doctrinal inquiry, he got ousted--rather painfully from what I understand--from the Church of Christ/non-instrumental church he was leading.

Peace,
2PhiloVoid

 

[A3M0N]

What was the issue in question? Was it a true, Biblical issue, or a tradition of men? I have seen the opposite happen in Churches of Christ as well. An eldership will want to steer the congregation in a "liberal" direction and fire a minister who preaches "too conservatively".

I'm sorry for derailing the thread! It was started for questions about the Disciples of Christ.

 

[Leboman]

Hello Leboman,

Are you Church of Christ/Instrumental, then? I forget sometimes that the instrumental/non-instrumental affiliation in Restorationist churches can vary, depending on whether one is in the North versus the South in the U.S (and Canada).

Peace,
2PhiloVoid

I'm originally from eastern North Carolina where the name "Churches of Christ" was synonymous with the non-instrumentals. I have always attended the ones who do use instruments. I now preach in an independent Church of Christ that came out of the Disciples. Here in Pennsylvania, where I preach, there aren't any non-instruments CoC that I am aware of. There are still quite a few Disciples churches up here though.

 

[Leboman]

True, enough, A3M0N. I'm sure they're not. But, when one of my former pastors, who used to be a Church of Christ pastor, crossed a line of doctrinal inquiry, he got ousted--rather painfully from what I understand--from the Church of Christ/non-instrumental church he was leading.

Peace,
2PhiloVoid

Just like any group, there are congregations that fall into all camps. We're pretty conservative but I don't now about ultra-conservative. They hired me and I have tattoos.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

Just like any group, there are congregations that fall into all camps. We're pretty conservative but I don't now about ultra-conservative. They hired me and I have tattoos.

You sound like my kind of pastor, Leboman...with a guitar to boot!

Anyway, welcome to CF, brother!

 

[faroukfarouk]

Just like any group, there are congregations that fall into all camps. We're pretty conservative but I don't now about ultra-conservative. They hired me and I have tattoos.

Hi; Sir. I'm not a member of any of these groups. For myself into in believer's baptism as a symbol.
So are some ppl in your group a bit hostile to tattoos, or would this be another group that you would be referring to?
(Years ago tattoos were a military and biker thing, and a male thing, but hardly any more.)

 

[Leboman]

Hi; Sir. I'm not a member of any of these groups. For myself into in believer's baptism as a symbol.
So are some ppl in your group a bit hostile to tattoos, or would this be another group that you would be referring to?
(Years ago tattoos were a military and biker thing, and a male thing, but hardly any more.)

From my own experiences, there are people in every Christian denomination and group who are hostile towards tattoos.

I would suggest that there is a little more to immersion than just symbolism but I offer grace to those who disagree with me.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

I'm originally from eastern North Carolina where the name "Churches of Christ" was synonymous with the non-instrumentals. I have always attended the ones who do use instruments. I now preach in an independent Church of Christ that came out of the Disciples. Here in Pennsylvania, where I preach, there aren't any non-instruments CoC that I am aware of. There are still quite a few Disciples churches up here though.

Yeah, in the South, Church of Christ is more often non-instrumental.

 

[Leboman]

You sound like my kind of pastor, Leboman...with a guitar to boot!

Anyway, welcome to CF, brother!

I try to live out the love and grace of Jesus in all things.

 

[faroukfarouk]

From my own experiences, there are people in every Christian denomination and group who are hostile towards tattoos.

I would suggest that there is a little more to immersion than just symbolism but I offer grace to those who disagree with me.

True; I guess for some ppl not having ink is almost an existential thing, work that one out.

But these days it's become a sort of rite of passage thing for young ppl and I expect some young ppl from your church probably consider doing it as well.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

I try to live out the love and grace of Jesus in all things.

That's great to here! We can't get too much of that. As for myself, I affiliate most with the Christian Church (instrumental), which I'm sure is very similar to your church, although I do take a few forays with my son to one of the local Southern Baptist Churches.

Peace.

 

[Leboman]

True; I guess for some ppl not having ink is almost an existential thing, work that one out.

But these days it's become a sort of rite of passage thing for young ppl and I expect some young ppl from your church probably consider doing it as well.

I have tats. My wife has tats. Two other ladies (one is in her thirties, one in her fifties) have them.

I could see myself being a biker. If I had a bike.

 

[faroukfarouk]

I have tats. My wife has tats. Two other ladies (one is in her thirties, one in her fifties) have them.

I could see myself being a biker. If I had a bike.

Yes, well, although it used to be a man thing, it certainly isn't any more. I saw this quote from the Bible Belt, FYI:

Around here (Bible Belt), it is common, especially among evangelical Christians, for the girls under about 40 to have religious tattoos. More do than don't, especially when you get to the under 30 crowd. I hardly know any female at church that is under 30 that does not have a tattoo.

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It actually doesn't surprise me that Mrs Leboman (and other ladies from your church) wanted to have it done also. (Seems like when an 18 year does it, mom will also want to do it - or already have done it.)

 

[Leboman]

My point was that none of the "young" people have them. My twenty year old son thinks they're silly as does my sixteen year old son. I have wanted tattoos since I was a very young teenager. I saw rock stars with them and I thought, "Yeah, I want those." I was actually thirty-eight before I got my first one. All of mine have personal faith meanings to me.

 

[A3M0N]

I have no issue with tattoos, as long as they're not inappropriate! My wife has one. I spent 8 years active duty military and never got a tat, not sure how that happened.