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Discussion in 'General Theology' started by valorJ, Mar 7, 2003.

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  1. valorJ

    valorJ Member

    I'm new to the forums, and recently new to accepting Christ. I was wondering what the explanation of dinosaurs are, in the bible, or in general in relation to the Christian faith. Dinosaur fossils are found all over the place, so I was just wondering how they fit in. :)
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  2. Reformationist

    Reformationist Non nobis domine sed tuo nomine da gloriam

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    I'm not really well versed in this explanation but I know that some believe they are spoken of in the book of Job, near the end of the book.

    As a side note, the Bible is a book about Christ and His Church and does not include every single subject there is.

    Interesting question though and one that many have asked. :)

    God bless
  3. Andrew

    Andrew Well-Known Member

    The book of Job (chp 40) describes the Behemoth and the Leviathan. I believe these to be dinosaurs, going by the detailed descriptions.

    If you want the creationist perspective on this, go to:


    if you want the secular perspective, just watch Discovery Channel or National Geographic.

    you might want to go to the Creation / Evolution section but the folks there mainly believe in evolution.
  4. valorJ

    valorJ Member

    Ok cool, so Job 40? I, personally, could care less what the creationists and evolutionists think. :p I just wanted to know what you guys thought.
  5. sfg

    sfg New Member

    Here are some references from the Bible, most of which refer to dinosaurs. The word "Dinosaur" was not invented until 1841 so we won't find it in the Bible. Dragons, dragon, Behemoth and Leviathan all refer to dinosaurs. Note the specific description of Behemoth.

    References to Dragons (probably Dinosaurs).

    Deuteronomy 32:33 their wine is the poison of dragons, and the cruel venom of asps.

    Job 30:29 I am a brother to dragons, and a companion to owls.

    Psalms 44:19 Though thou hast sore broken us in the place of dragons, and covered us with the shadow of death.

    Psalms 74:13 Thou didst divide the sea by thy strength: thou brakest the heads of the dragons in the waters.

    Psalms 148:7 ¶ Praise the LORD from the earth, ye dragons, and all deeps:

    Isaiah 13:22 And the wild beasts of the islands shall cry in their desolate houses, and dragons in their pleasant palaces: and her time is near to come, and her days shall not be prolonged.

    Isaiah 34:13 And thorns shall come up in her palaces, nettles and brambles in the fortresses thereof: and it shall be an habitation of dragons, and a court for owls.

    Isaiah 35:7 And the parched ground shall become a pool, and the thirsty land springs of water: in the habitation of dragons, where each lay, shall be grass with reeds and rushes.

    Isaiah 43:20 The beast of the field shall honour me, the dragons and the owls: because I give waters in the wilderness, and rivers in the desert, to give drink to my people, my chosen.

    Jeremiah 9:11 And I will make Jerusalem heaps, and a den of dragons; and I will make the cities of Judah desolate, without an inhabitant.

    Jeremiah 10:22 Behold, the noise of the bruit is come, and a great commotion out of the north country, to make the cities of Judah desolate, and a den of dragons.

    Jeremiah 14:6 And the wild asses did stand in the high places, they snuffed up the wind like dragons; their eyes did fail, because there was no grass.

    Jeremiah 49:33 And Hazor shall be a dwelling for dragons, and a desolation for ever: there shall no man abide there, nor any son of man dwell in it.

    Jeremiah 51:37 And Babylon shall become heaps, a dwellingplace for dragons, an astonishment, and an hissing, without an inhabitant.

    Micah 1:8 ¶ Therefore I will wail and howl, I will go stripped and naked: I will make a wailing like the dragons, and mourning as the owls.

    Malachi 1:3 And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness.

    References to Dragon (probably Dinosaurs) I have excluded all the references in the Revelation since it refers Satan.
    Nehemiah 2:13 And I went out by night by the gate of the valley, even before the dragon well, and to the dung port, and viewed the walls of Jerusalem, which were broken down, and the gates thereof were consumed with fire.

    Psalms 91:13 Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.

    Isaiah 27:1 ¶ In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.

    Isaiah 51:9 ¶ Awake, awake, put on strength, O arm of the LORD; awake, as in the ancient days, in the generations of old. Art thou not it that hath cut Rahab, and wounded the dragon?

    Jeremiah 51:34 Nebuchadrezzar the king of Babylon hath devoured me, he hath crushed me, he hath made me an empty vessel, he hath swallowed me up like a dragon, he hath filled his belly with my delicates, he hath cast me out.

    References to Behemoth (probably a four legged Dinosaur)
    Job 40:15-24 Behold now behemoth, which I made with thee; he eateth grass as an ox. Lo now, his strength is in his loins, and his force is in the navel of his belly. He moveth his tail like a cedar: the sinews of his stones are wrapped together. His bones are as strong pieces of brass; his bones are like bars of iron. He is the chief of the ways of God: he that made him can make his sword to approach unto him. Surely the mountains bring him forth food, where all the beasts of the field play. He lieth under the shady trees, in the covert of the reed, and fens. The shady trees cover him with their shadow; the willows of the brook compass him about. Behold, he drinketh up a river, and hasteth not: he trusteth that he can draw up Jordan into his mouth. He taketh it with his eyes: his nose pierceth through snares. (or Will any take him in his sight, or, bore his nose with a gin?}

    References to Leviathan (probably a Dinosaur)
    Job 41:1-10 Canst thou draw out leviathan with an hook? or his tongue with a cord which thou lettest down? Canst thou put an hook into his nose? or bore his jaw through with a thorn? Will he make many supplications unto thee? will he speak soft words unto thee? Will he make a covenant with thee? wilt thou take him for a servant for ever? Wilt thou play with him as with a bird? or wilt thou bind him for thy maidens? Shall the companions make a banquet of him? shall they part him among the merchants? Canst thou fill his skin with barbed irons? or his head with fish spears? Lay thine hand upon him, remember the battle, do no more. Behold, the hope of him is in vain: shall not one be cast down even at the sight of him? None is so fierce that dare stir him up: who then is able to stand before me?

    Psalms 74:14 Thou brakest the heads of leviathan in pieces, and gavest him to be meat to the people inhabiting the wilderness.

    Psalms 104:26 There go the ships: there is that leviathan, whom thou hast made to play therein.

    Isaiah 27:1 In that day the LORD with his sore and great and strong sword shall punish leviathan the piercing serpent, even leviathan that crooked serpent; and he shall slay the dragon that is in the sea.
  6. sklippstein

    sklippstein Well-Known Member

    I think that some believed that the existed before Genesis came into effect. This would be at the time that Satan was thrown out of heaven and into the earth which would explain why they are extinct.
  7. Kam_Islash

    Kam_Islash The Leet One

    Found this thread looking for stuff on leviathan. Im kind of a Dragon buff, you see.

    I would have posted abigger post but someone beat me to it. smashing job! My hat goes off to you.

    The biblical descriptions of Behemoth and Leviathan completely blows away any claims that they are a Hippo and a Crocodile.

    Thats basically what i wanted to say.

    So if Dragons existed, what other mystical beasts once walked the earth?

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