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Blessed75 said:The title needs to be changed to Nick Berg and it's okay Mhatten, we all make mistakes. Even someone as perfect as me. lol.....
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Blessed75 said:The title needs to be changed to Nick Berg and it's okay Mhatten, we all make mistakes. Even someone as perfect as me. lol.....
We're fighting against the type of people who did this. Believe me, I regret watching it, but felt I "needed" to so I could try and understand.
Amen to that...well said! How can anyone fight or deal with evil, if they have not seen or heard or felt evil? Some Christians are too naive, innocent or simply ignorant regarding evil, and some of them don't have the tools or know how to fight evil. And with the head-in-the-sand attitude, the shame is on US as Christians for not standing up to evil and call it as it is.Jenna said:[/font]
*nods* Now this is something that I can understand. I can only speak for myself, but I come from a very different background than some. I have lead a very sheltered life in many ways, and have been kept free of true violence. For me, it was hard to actually understand that someone could be so full of evil as to do something like that. It was one thing to hear someone say that a person was beheaded. For as many books and movies as I've ingested, I have an idea of what that entails. However, movies and literature cannot touch the depravity of such a disgusting act. Having never been exposed to something like that, having never seen anyone die, it becomes something hard for me to wrap my brain around. So, I took the opportunity to educate myself, to shed a little bit of the innocence that still clings to me, and to have more of an understanding about what it really is that we are fighting against each day. It's easy to say that you fight against evil, and hard to truly understand it if you've never seen it.
I'll say that it made me sick, and I'm glad that it did. I hope that every day of my life I become sick at the reality of evil, that I always understand the importance of life and what a gift it is. For whomever made the comment about Nick Berg possibly deserving his fate, that's just disturbing. The man was working to fix communications in Iraq, to help the people. He was a civilian. It was said that his murder was in retaliation for the abuse of the abused prisoners, as though it makes their abhorent behavior justified. What the soldiers did to the prisoners of war was disgusting. No person should ever be treated that way. However, for anyone to think that slowly sawing off an innocent man's head in retaliation is justified, well... may God have mercy on them.
If we're going to be bombarded with the torture/humiliation pictures, I think everyone should see the beheading as well, so that we're forced to realize that we're dealing with animals, not humans.mhatten said:Did you watch the video (the beheading) released Tuesday, if so why or why not?
Even after you qualified your "good" comment, this is a bad post.Spike~ said:I did. A bit grainy, but a good snuff film non-the-less. Well not good good, but as far as snuff films go, that was a gorey one.
Honest-to-God one of the dumbest posts ever.PresidentsAnalyst said:I see alot of drunken college brats at american universities that could use a good head chopping off. I see alot of Americans who never went to college in America that need their head chopped off.
MichaelFJF said:Honest-to-God one of the dumbest posts ever.
MichaelFJF said:If we're going to be bombarded with the torture/humiliation pictures, I think everyone should see the beheading as well, so that we're forced to realize that we're dealing with animals, not humans.
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Jenna said:[/font]
*nods* Now this is something that I can understand. I can only speak for myself, but I come from a very different background than some. I have lead a very sheltered life in many ways, and have been kept free of true violence. For me, it was hard to actually understand that someone could be so full of evil as to do something like that. It was one thing to hear someone say that a person was beheaded. For as many books and movies as I've ingested, I have an idea of what that entails. However, movies and literature cannot touch the depravity of such a disgusting act. Having never been exposed to something like that, having never seen anyone die, it becomes something hard for me to wrap my brain around. So, I took the opportunity to educate myself, to shed a little bit of the innocence that still clings to me, and to have more of an understanding about what it really is that we are fighting against each day. It's easy to say that you fight against evil, and hard to truly understand it if you've never seen it.
I'll say that it made me sick, and I'm glad that it did. I hope that every day of my life I become sick at the reality of evil, that I always understand the importance of life and what a gift it is. For whomever made the comment about Nick Berg possibly deserving his fate, that's just disturbing. The man was working to fix communications in Iraq, to help the people. He was a civilian. It was said that his murder was in retaliation for the abuse of the abused prisoners, as though it makes their abhorent behavior justified. What the soldiers did to the prisoners of war was disgusting. No person should ever be treated that way. However, for anyone to think that slowly sawing off an innocent man's head in retaliation is justified, well... may God have mercy on them.
Sometimes I wonder if people can actually read. Did I say I prefer not to see the abuse pictures? No. That being said, I think most people would rather not see them. However, if we're going to be reminded endlessly how bad Americans are, it's only fair that we're reminded about the tactics of the "people" we're trying to defeat. Oh - and the animals? They're the ones that chant while cutting off a civilian's head. Mmhatten said:Who are the animals we are dealing with, just how big is that paint brush?
So you prefer not to see the abuse pictures, why?
I agree the poll should have a YES and NOMaybe, that should also be a yes or no poll. Because I couldn't answer the thing.
Jenna said:I admit to having watched it. *nods* It would probably have better for me to have not indulged my morbid curiosity at how any person could methodically done something like that. I have to say that I am struggling a great deal and praying often over the feelings that I am having toward people like that. How anyone could murder someone in such a cruel way while calling out praises to their god...... *shakes head* I'll just stop there before I start ranting in my anger.
mhatten said:Can the mods change it or would I have to start a new one. I don't want to be like JD and have 15 refined polls on the same subject and wouldn't want to get Jame's gander up
the_cheat said:I didn't watch it. I see no reason to. And while I don't necessarily doubt the veracity of this specific video, video in this day and age is no proof of anything. Someone with a certain set of computer skills, a laptop, a digicam and some pirated video editing software can make a video of anything anywhere.
Yes.Larry said:Sure enough. I guess the same can be applied to the pics of the Abu Ghraib prisoners and the wedding video.
Where do you stand on those? Do these same rules apply?