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Did Mike Pence collude with the Russians?

Discussion in 'American Politics' started by HTacianas, Mar 16, 2019 at 3:00 PM.

  1. HTacianas

    HTacianas Well-Known Member

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    With all the hoopla over Russian *whatever* the one name that never comes up is Mike Pence. Why is that?

    Seems if something nefarious is going on in a political campaign surely the number two guy would be in on it but I don't recall a single accusation against him.

    But maybe I wasn't paying attention.
     
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  2. DaisyDay

    DaisyDay blind squirrel

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    Mike Pence is a professional politician who knows and respects the laws of campaigning. Why would he be involved?

    He and Donald are not close; they don't have the kind of genuine regard and relationship that Obama and Biden have. Even Bush II and Cheney relied more on each other.
     
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  3. Hammster

    Hammster The True Light was coming into the world. Staff Member Assistant Advisor Supporter

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    My guess is that most of the alleged collusion took place before he was on the ticket.
     
  4. GoldenBoy89

    GoldenBoy89 We're Still Here

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    Mike Pence? You mean the department store mannequin we have for a VP? His only crime is being as spineless as the rest of the GOP that refuses to stand up to DT.
     
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  5. ThatRobGuy

    ThatRobGuy Programmer Extraordinaire Supporter

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    I'd be shocked if Pence is kept in the loop on anything at all.

    He was simply there to ensure that the GOP didn't lose the evangelical vote by nominating a draft-dodging former democrat womanizer who owned casinos and a vodka company.
     
  6. Hammster

    Hammster The True Light was coming into the world. Staff Member Assistant Advisor Supporter

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    How was that supposed to ensure the evangelical vote?
     
  7. brinny

    brinny everlovin' shiner of light in dark places Supporter

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    Based on even just his commitment to never meet with another female (other than his wife), alone, for ANY reason, it seems that perhaps he would have avoided any even appearance of anything questionable regarding Russia or anything else, like the plague.

    Apparently that's a very wise and GOOD thing, even as he's ridiculed and mocked for it...even very recently.
     
  8. durangodawood

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    VP does 2 things. "Ribbon cutting" duties, and election day symbolism.

    (Unless youre Cheney in which case you can add starting bogus wars.)
     
  9. ViaCrucis

    ViaCrucis Evangelical Catholic of the Augsburg Confession

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    There's been no reason to suspect Pence of anything. There's been nothing that--at least that I've seen--that's linked Pence to any of the smoking guns we've been seeing coming out of the Trump administration.

    It's not some wild goose chase or witch hunt, in spite of the president's vocal protestations to the contrary. It's a lawful investigation that has resulted in numerous indictments so far. If Pence has participated in something problematic, then that will probably come to light--but so far there's been no reason to suspect him of anything.

    -CryptoLutheran
     
  10. ViaCrucis

    ViaCrucis Evangelical Catholic of the Augsburg Confession

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    And shooting people in the face and having them apologize to you.

    -CryptoLutheran
     
  11. Steve Petersen

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    Well, it appears the Dems are searching for another target on collusion since they don't appear to have the goods on Trump for collusion.
     
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  12. Hammster

    Hammster The True Light was coming into the world. Staff Member Assistant Advisor Supporter

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    That didn’t answer my question.
     
  13. essentialsaltes

    essentialsaltes Stranger in a Strange Land

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    Pence told us that there was nothing wrong with the conversations Flynn had with Kislyak before the election.

    This was untrue.

    At the time, the spin was that Flynn had lied to Pence, and this is why Flynn was fired. (And later pled guilty to lying to the FBI).

    It's remotely possible that Pence knew all along.

    But I doubt it. So yes, please start switching your allegiance to President Pence. He probably won't be impeached.
     
  14. durangodawood

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    It was the "election day symbolism part".

    When you need to reach out to a voting bloc, you put "one of them" on the ticket.
     
  15. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

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    How is he mocked for it? This is first I heard of that.
     
  16. brinny

    brinny everlovin' shiner of light in dark places Supporter

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    i read that one of the new congress women mocked him specifically for this....i can't recall her name...

    i'll post it if i find it
     
  17. Hammster

    Hammster The True Light was coming into the world. Staff Member Assistant Advisor Supporter

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    “He was simply there to ensure that the GOP didn't lose the evangelical vote by nominating a draft-dodging former democrat womanizer who owned casinos and a vodka company.”

    Are you saying that is the evangelical voting bloc?
     
  18. durangodawood

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    I dont understand exactly what your "that" is referring to.
     
  19. Hammster

    Hammster The True Light was coming into the world. Staff Member Assistant Advisor Supporter

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    I’m trying to understand how that characterization of Pence endures the evangelical vote.
     
  20. durangodawood

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    I think the characterization was of Trump. Pence was enlisted to soften that, for the sake the evangelical Repub base.
     
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