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Did God Set A Specific Time For Everyone To Die?

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Trish1947 said:
I think being satisfied with long life is restricted within the limits that God has placed on man because He did shorten mans life span. But apparently faith, and physical strength can extend the three score and ten.

Psa 90:10 The days of our years are threescore years and ten; and if by reason of strength they be fourscore years, yet [is] their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.

Psa 90:11 Who knoweth the power of thine anger? even according to thy fear, [so is] thy wrath.

Psa 90:12 So teach us to number our days, that we may apply our hearts unto wisdom.

Death is an enemy. And we overcome it when our flesh dies.
But all are appointed within that time frame given, for their flesh to die. As far as a certain day, maybe not if there are other variables than can change it.

I think I understand what you are saying. Correct me if I am wrong but you are NOT saying that God has set a specific date in which a person must die but He has appointed a certain number of years. Am I correct in assessing your viewpoint?
 
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victoryword said:
I think I understand what you are saying. Correct me if I am wrong but you are NOT saying that God has set a specific date in which a person must die but He has appointed a certain number of years. Am I correct in assessing your viewpoint?

I believe there are approx numbered years..not a spacific day. So yes.
 
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Also, I met a pastor once who taught that we don't ever have to die. I do NOT agree with this doctrine. Unless Jesus comes back, we will all die physically at some point. I just don't believe that there is a specific date that God has assigned to each individual.

Has any one else ever heard the "You can live forever" teaching? What do you think about it?
 
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victoryword said:
Also, I met a pastor once who taught that we don't ever have to die. I do NOT agree with this doctrine. Unless Jesus comes back, we will all die physically at some point. I just don't believe that there is a specific date that God has assigned to each individual.

Has any one else ever heard the "You can live forever" teaching? What do you think about it?

I have heard this teaching. It just doesn't correlate too well with scripture. Paul said our inward man is being re-newed daily, but our outward man is perishing. Everytime I look in the mirror, I can see it..how many want to live forever in these old, wrinkeled, perishing bodies. Now if I can figure out how to have enough faith to get rid of these crow's feet...:D
 
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I decided to take a little time to take on two of the main passages used to advocate the belief in this "set time to die" doctrine:
Heb 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:
This is not stating that man has a specific divine appintment to die. And for those who may adhere to the bvelief that God has a specific DATE in which he "pulls the plug," this passage is far from advocating such a theory. This passage (in context) is simply illustrating the fact that Christ died once for sin because men only die ONCE. Afterwards, they must be judged. It is an excellent verse to refute the false teaching of reincarnation, but it does not support the fatalistic premise that we all have an appointed time to die.
I don't believe that the structure of the sentence even implies that God has a specific time in mind when someone is going to die. The verse is simply stating that we are all going to die (except those who are raptured at Christ's coming).

If they were some divine specific appointment to die then Elijah and Enoch missed out on it ;)

Ecc 7:17 Be not over much wicked, neither be thou foolish: why shouldest thou die before thy time?
I believe that this passage is simply stating that one should not die prematurely from the rsult of sin. I do not believe that it is stating that a person has a specific time to die. Interpretting Scripture with Scripture, we know that we can believe God for more years (Psalm 90-92; Isa. 38) and that some things we do can either prolong or shorten our time on the earth (Eph. 6). I think two other versions/paraphrases of Ecclesiasted 7:17 makes this idea clearer:

(GNB) But don't be too wicked or too foolish, either---why die before you have to?
(MSG) But don't press your luck by being bad, either. And don't be reckless. Why die needlessly?


 
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PastorJ said:
Psalms 139:16 KJV

(16) Thine eyes did see my substance, yet being unperfect; and in thy book all [my members] were written, [which] in continuance were fashioned, when [as yet there was] none of them.

Lismore I think this is a great scripture proving that God knows the details of the future, but I dont understand how you tie in God ordaining how long we will live. Could you explain?
PJ

Thanks for providing a better translation of the verse, PastorJ.

Nothing in the Word tells us that God decides when we will die.

I agree with victoryword also... God definitely didn't ordain that unborn babies be aborted!
 
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There Is A Time For Everything And Allknowing God Knows That Time And The Time To Die I Think Shouldnt Worry You And Knowing The Plan And Purpose Of Your Life And Fulfilling It Is A Great Blessing And To Live As Though Were In Heaven On Earth And Then Our Physical Go And Our Soul Remain When That Time Comes Eternall Life Is So Mush Greater Than Death.
 
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Also, I met a pastor once who taught that we don't ever have to die. I do NOT agree with this doctrine. Unless Jesus comes back, we will all die physically at some point. I just don't believe that there is a specific date that God has assigned to each individual.

You are completely wrong.

I am the beginning and the ending. (Rev. 1:8)

To everything there is a season. ( Eccl. 3:1)

God numbered our days: he said which day you will be born, and which second you will die. EVERYTHING is his. EVERYTHING. by saying that he has not set a date for your body to become a cold corpse, you are suggesting that GOD is not almighty. BUT GOD IS ALMIGHTY!

all were amazed at the mighty power of God (Luke 9:43)

according to the good pleasure of his will (Eph. 1:5)

I'll pray for you that you become stronger in the Lord, my friend. As of right now it seems Satan has completely deceived you.
 
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God knows everything....
We have free will....
So choices we make -or don't make- takes us down different path after different path....
God knows everything....
DO we really have free will?
....scratching head, I'll be back! LOL
 
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Alright, here's a question for those of you who believe that God has set a specific date for you to die (or even those of you who believe that God knows the future exhaustively and knows exactly when you will die).

Can you talk to Him and say, "Hey God, tell me the exact time and date of my death?"

Is this possible.

And for those of you who claimed that satan has deceived me: Pppppppppllllllllltttttt :p
 
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victoryword said:
Alright, here's a question for those of you who believe that God has set a specific date for you to die (or even those of you who believe that God knows the future exhaustively and knows exactly when you will die).

Can you talk to Him and say, "Hey God, tell me the exact time and date of my death?"

Is this possible.

And for those of you who claimed that satan has deceived me: Pppppppppllllllllltttttt :p

Not SAtan deceived- maybe just self inflicted ^_^ Oh, no! Its on me today. I feel the anointing of auneriness.

I've heard of many elderly people who told their loved ones that they were going to die today. "Grandma's going home to be with the Lord today come hug my neck before I go".

I believe the latter part of your quote. He doesnt determine, however he knows.
Bro. Copeland asked the Lord and the Lord told him that he would be finished with his work at 92.

PJ
 
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PastorJ said:
Not SAtan deceived- maybe just self inflicted ^_^ Oh, no! Its on me today. I feel the anointing of auneriness.

I've heard of many elderly people who told their loved ones that they were going to die today. "Grandma's going home to be with the Lord today come hug my neck before I go".

I believe the latter part of your quote. He doesnt determine, however he knows.
Bro. Copeland asked the Lord and the Lord told him that he would be finished with his work at 92.

PJ

Does that mean he'll retire and go play golf for the next couple of years? :D
 
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victoryword said:
Does that mean he'll retire and go play golf for the next couple of years? :D
Actually he said, "at 92 I'm outta here! I dont want to stay another day longer. What you mean? Stay here at this ol' place?"
PJ
 
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I have not taken the time to read everything here but I do believe He's appointed the time...and if I die before that time then whatever it was that took me before that appointed time could have been changed. I'm not claiming to know all the ins and outs of it and at this moment don't even have a specific scripture to back it up (although the Eccl one was good:)), but that is my 2 cents worth.
 
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victoryword said:
Alright, here's a question for those of you who believe that God has set a specific date for you to die (or even those of you who believe that God knows the future exhaustively and knows exactly when you will die).

Can you talk to Him and say, "Hey God, tell me the exact time and date of my death?"

Is this possible.

And for those of you who claimed that satan has deceived me: Pppppppppllllllllltttttt :p

Yea, I think it's possible to ask. I'm not so sure though that it's possible to get the answer. :p
 
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Trish1947 said:
Isa 38:5 Go, and say to Hezekiah, Thus saith the LORD, the God of David thy father, I have heard thy prayer, I have seen thy tears: behold, I will add unto thy days fifteen years.

:scratch: So did he live exactly 15 years from the date he received the promise, 15 years from the date he was initially scheduled to die, or 15 years from the date of his birthday? :)

I do hope you understand I'm just being silly :blush:
 
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LeeS said:
:scratch: So did he live exactly 15 years from the date he received the promise, 15 years from the date he was initially scheduled to die, or 15 years from the date of his birthday? :)

I do hope you understand I'm just being silly :blush:

It's good to be silly in these discussions. After all, most people aren't going to change their viewpoint based on someone's "serious" post anyway.

That having been said, I disagree with every last one of your posts on this thread :D
 
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PastorJ said:
Actually he said, "at 92 I'm outta here! I dont want to stay another day longer. What you mean? Stay here at this ol' place?"
PJ

Hey, didn't him and Gloria say that they were going to shoot for 120 or something like that on a recent show? I thought they did but don't recall for sure.

While I am not sure what Copeland meant by God telling him this (because even if God told him that, it doesn't mean that God knows the future exhaustively, it only means He knows His servant and the progress that he will make), I am definitely claiming the promise of long life and I plan to live till at least 90.
 
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