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Featured Did God create dragons?

Discussion in 'Controversial Christian Theology' started by Nathan98, Sep 7, 2017.

  1. ViaCrucis

    ViaCrucis Evangelical Catholic of the Augsburg Confession

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    Oops, wrong thread.
     
  2. Hal A Peno

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  3. ViaCrucis

    ViaCrucis Evangelical Catholic of the Augsburg Confession

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    "We believe in one God, the Father Almighty, Maker of heaven and earth, of all things seen and unseen." - From the Nicene Creed

    God made all things through His Word, John 1:3.

    -CryptoLutheran
     
  4. Hal A Peno

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  5. ViaCrucis

    ViaCrucis Evangelical Catholic of the Augsburg Confession

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    Do these "scientists" have valid degrees in relevant fields and their research in credible peer reviewed science journals?

    -CryptoLutheran
     
  6. SBC

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    :) Different "kinds" of animals. No problem haven't yet went looking in a lions den for eggs. :)

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  7. Targaryen

    Targaryen Scripture,Tradition and Reason

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    I can answer for him and say no. Just to save you time Crypto
     
  8. SBC

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    Noah took on the ark KINDS of animals -

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  9. Hal A Peno

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    I could not think of an animal (leviathan) with two heads. An octopus has eight arms. A millipede has many legs. I could not find evidence for fire breathing dragons. Stories were told that were not entirely true.
     
  11. Beautyinsteadofashes

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  12. Bible Highlighter

    Bible Highlighter Law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul. Supporter

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    You judged it before watching the whole thing. There are various books on the topic. But again, you can pre-judge them and just say it is not true before even looking at them. The Bible in Job 41 is all the evidence you should need, but for some odd reason you don't believe it. Which is to be expected. People do not believe in all sorts of things the Bible says these days.
     
  13. Bible Highlighter

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    Yes, God created them.

    "For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him." (Colossians 1:16).
     
  14. Bible Highlighter

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    The Bible talks about unicorns in Job 39 as a real creature. It appears to be like some kind of oxen maybe. But it is a real creature and no doubt has one horn because that is what the word "unicorn" means. One horned. End of story. The Bible says it. That's it. You either believe the Bible or you don't believe it.
     
  15. Hank77

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    Jason, I don't have any problem with believing God when He speaks to Job, who obviously knew what creature God was talking about, about a fire breathing creature.

    But when expecting others to believe what you believe the Bible clearly says, you might take note about when the Bible says the last days were or at least began. To me this is more important than if fire breathing dragons ever existed.

    This is Peter speaking on the first Pentecost about the giving of the Holy Spirit.
    Act 2:16 `But this is that which hath been spoken through the prophet Joel:
    Act 2:17 And it shall be in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of My Spirit upon all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams;......
     
  16. JackRT

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    All evidence indicates that dinosaurs were the product of the evolution that gave rise to the rest of life on this planet.
     
  17. ViaCrucis

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    John D. Morris has a Ph.D in geological engineering from the University of Oklahoma, and has authored no(?) peer reviewed articles in credible scientific journals.

    Perhaps you could explain what Morris' geological engineering doctorate can contribute to these questions, and share some of his peer reviewed articles--as I was unable to find any peer reviewed articles authored by Morris when doing a Google search, but that isn't conclusive which is why I'm asking you to provide them.

    -CryptoLutheran
     
  18. Vicomte13

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    Dragon is the old word for dinosaur. In China, they prize dragon bone. It's fossilized dinosaur bone. So yes, God made dragons.
     
  19. Targaryen

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    The entirety of Job in the NRSV:

    Job 39


    1 Do you know when the mountain goats give birth?
    Do you observe the calving of the deer?
    2 Can you number the months that they fulfil,
    and do you know the time when they give birth,
    3 when they crouch to give birth to their offspring,
    and are delivered of their young?
    4 Their young ones become strong, they grow up in the open;
    they go forth, and do not return to them.


    5 ‘Who has let the wild ass go free?
    Who has loosed the bonds of the swift ass,
    6 to which I have given the steppe for its home,
    the salt land for its dwelling-place?
    7 It scorns the tumult of the city;
    it does not hear the shouts of the driver.
    8 It ranges the mountains as its pasture,
    and it searches after every green thing.


    9 ‘Is the wild ox willing to serve you?
    Will it spend the night at your crib?
    10 Can you tie it in the furrow with ropes,
    or will it harrow the valleys after you?
    11 Will you depend on it because its strength is great,
    and will you hand over your labour to it?
    12 Do you have faith in it that it will return,
    and bring your grain to your threshing-floor?*


    13 ‘The ostrich’s wings flap wildly,
    though its pinions lack plumage.*
    14 For it leaves its eggs to the earth,
    and lets them be warmed on the ground,
    15 forgetting that a foot may crush them,
    and that a wild animal may trample them.
    16 It deals cruelly with its young, as if they were not its own;
    though its labour should be in vain, yet it has no fear;
    17 because God has made it forget wisdom,
    and given it no share in understanding.
    18 When it spreads its plumes aloft,*
    it laughs at the horse and its rider.


    19 ‘Do you give the horse its might?
    Do you clothe its neck with mane?
    20 Do you make it leap like the locust?
    Its majestic snorting is terrible.
    21 It paws* violently, exults mightily;
    it goes out to meet the weapons.
    22 It laughs at fear, and is not dismayed;
    it does not turn back from the sword.
    23 Upon it rattle the quiver,
    the flashing spear, and the javelin.
    24 With fierceness and rage it swallows the ground;
    it cannot stand still at the sound of the trumpet.
    25 When the trumpet sounds, it says “Aha!”
    From a distance it smells the battle,
    the thunder of the captains, and the shouting.


    26 ‘Is it by your wisdom that the hawk soars,
    and spreads its wings towards the south?
    27 Is it at your command that the eagle mounts up
    and makes its nest on high?
    28 It lives on the rock and makes its home
    in the fastness of the rocky crag.
    29 From there it spies the prey;
    its eyes see it from far away.
    30 Its young ones suck up blood;
    and where the slain are, there it is.’

    No mention of unicorns there so therefore I don't see what you're trying to get at with your lack of actual scientific evidence and this bible waving to prove it and then trying to jump to conclusions, like all heterodoxers, that cause those of us that don't stand on shoddy reasoning have a lack of faith. Sorry but come up with a new tactic, this one doesn't work.
     
  20. pat34lee

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    Sooo...
    Did you read what I was responding to?

    The terms dragon and dinosaur were used interchangeably
    for many years. The only difference is that dragons are recent
    history. Dinosaurs were made into myth by evolution and long
    periods of time.
     
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