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Some atheist claim during the conquest of Canaan God ordered the Israelites to murder innocent Canaanites men, woman, and children. So therefore, the god of the bible is either evil, and not worth worshiping, or not the true god since god must be good. While the claim is false, assuming it were true and god did order genocide against innocents, would that not be a reason to do what he wants to not anger him? Nothing from an atheist view point says god must be “good” [or how we view “good”] or act in a loving way. Those beliefs come from the christian ideas of god in the bible. If God did order genocide, that would not disprove a god, only that god at times ordered genocide. Atheist must put themselves in place of God to judge his actions by their standards. Instead of God who is a perfect judge of people living thousands of years ago, to decided what is morally correct or not. Atheist must make three assumptions before judging gods actions.
1] We must assume we are god, that only we can tell and know what is morally acceptable or not.
2] We must assume their are such things as morals, “right” and “wrong” those ideas only make sense if a moral god created us. Since there are no true morals in an atheistic evolutionary scenario.
3]We must assume our evolved brains of completely random chemical reactions and matter can somehow have the right idea of what is right and wrong, our evolved animal brains formed by random chemical reactions and matter [dirt] that combined for a survival advantage. Certain evolved random chemicals and matter only “feel” killing is wrong because the random chemical reactions give them a chemical feeling that killing is wrong. Not because killing is morally wrong in an atheistic worldview as there is no standard of right or wrong. Hitler believed what he was doing was right and morally good [survival of the fittest get rid of unwanted holding back the human race]
“If it all happens nationalistically, who needs a god? Cant I set my own rules? Who owns me? I own myself”
-Jeffery Dahmer
“Let me summarize my views on what modern evolutionary biology tells us loud and clear. . . There are no gods, no purposes, no goal-directed forces of any kind. There is no life after death. When I die, I am absolutely certain that I am going to be dead. That’s the end for me. There is no ultimate foundation for ethics, no ultimate meaning to life, and no free will for humans, either.
-William Provine Professor Cornell University
However the bible does not say that god commanded genocide against innocents. A more accurate modern analogy would be as follows.
1]The land of Canaan being a piece of federally owned land legally inherited, state owned territory by previous president held for the good of the country.
2]Current occupant are a religious sect whose rituals include, incest, inappropriate behavior with animals, and burning children alive as a sacrifice among other crimes. For hundreds of years previous administrations have turned a blind eye to their activities and have refused to evict the tenants.
3]A group of civilians want to take up occupancy and have signed agreement to use the land in the way the government has saved the land for. Also promising to not follow in the sects criminal activities. Agreeing if they violate the agreement and commit the crimes, they will as well be evicted from the land.
4]The current culture of the sect has become so persuasive in area, that almost no person who lives there cannot avoid getting caught up up in it, and more and more people are getting involved in the crimes of the sect.
5]The sect is heavily armed and some will not leave unless evicted by force. The president authorizes the military to evict by force the occupants.
Hopefully I will show the above is the accurate biblical description of the conquest
Sins of the Canaanites- Child Sacrifice
You must not worship the LORD your God in their way, because in worshiping their gods, they do all kinds of detestable things the LORD hates. They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as sacrifices to their gods.
-Deuteronomy 12.31
And you shall not let any of your descendants pass through the fire to Molech,
-Leviticus 18
They worshiped their idols, which became a snare to them. 37 They sacrificed their sons and their daughters to false gods. 38 They shed innocent blood, the blood of their sons and daughters, whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan, and the land was desecrated by their blood.
-Psalm 106 36-38
One of the most horrendous sins to God was that of child sacrifice. The Canaanites are well known through archaeology for their child sacrifice in religious ceremonies. After being displaced from Canaan they resettled in Carthage and continued to worship their gods with child sacrifice.
“Molech was a Canaanite underworld deity represented as an upright, bullheaded idol with a human body in whose belly a fire was stoked and in whose outstretched arms a child was placed that would be burned to death. The victims were not only infants; children as old as four were sacrificed...“as the flame burning the child surrounded the body, the limbs would shrivel up and the mouth would appear to grin as if laughing, until it was shrunk enough to slip into the cauldron.” -John Day, Molech: A God of Human Sacrifice in the Old Testament (Cambridge: Cambridge University, 1989),
“Funerary jars have been found with the bodies of young children distorted by suffocation as they struggled for life after having been buried alive as a sacrifice to Canaanite gods. Such young children have been found in the foundation pillars of Canaanite houses, and sometimes religious ceremonies were associated with their sacrifice....“The Canaanite religion was a horribly brutal system as well. For instance, the goddess Anath is pictured as killing humans by the thousands and wading knee-deep in blood. She cut off heads and hands and wore them as ornaments. And in all of this gruesomeness, the Baal-epic says that her liver was swollen with laughter and her joy was great.” -Wilson, 1973, p. 85). Wayne Jackson, M.A. Old Testament events and the goodness of God Old Testament Events and the Goodness of God
“The most significant part of the American excavations [at Carthage] occurred in the Tophet.The word Tophet comes from the Old Testament (e.g., 2 Kgs 23:10; Jer 7:30–32), referring to a place of child sacrifice and burial. Modern excavators applied the term Tophet to a cemetery we excavated bearing remains of children who had been ritually sacrificed as burnt offerings. It is the largest sacrificial cemetery ever found, measuring at least 60,000 square feet. Most stunning is the number of children sacrificed here—estimated at a minimum of 20,000 burials between 400–200 BC during only one-third the life of the cemetery! The excavators named the [archaeological] periods after Tanit, the Canaanite goddess of love and war. Child sacrifices at Carthage were dedicated to her and to the god Baal Hamon, a name that means “Lord of the Brazier.” They were brother and sister, as well as husband and wife!Carthaginians were descendants of Canaanites.
-John Currid. Abortion: Child Sacrifice Today? Bible and Spade (Winter 2012, 13) For quote of Canaanite second nature discussing child sacrifice The origin of the American Indian populations Joc 26 [11] 2012 p71
inappropriate behavior with animals
“Do not have sexual relations with an animal and defile yourself with it. A woman must not present herself to an animal to have sexual relations with it; that is a perversion.”
-Leviticus 18.23
“There should be no surprise that inappropriate behavior with animals would occur among the Canaanites, since their gods practiced it. From the Canaanite epic poem “The Baal Cycle” we learn: “Mightiest Baal hears / He makes love with a heifer in the outback / A cow in the field of Death’s Realm. / He lies with her seventy times seven / Mounts eighty times eight / [She conceiv]es and bears a boy.”
-Mark S. Smith, trans. Ugaritic Narrative Poetry, ed. Simon B. Parker (Atlanta: Society of Biblical Literature, 1997), 148.
Spiritual depravity will lead to sexual depravity and this is the case with the Canaanites. There were no prohibitions against inappropriate behavior with animals outside of Israel in the ancient near east. In an Egyptian dream book it was said that it was a bad omen for a woman to dream about embracing her husband, but good things would happen if she dreamed of intercourse with a baboon, wolf, or he-goat.
“Probably the ultimate sexual depravity is intercourse with animals. Hittite Laws: 199 states, “If anyone has intercourse with a pig or a dog, he shall die. If a man has intercourse with a horse or a mule, there is no punishment.” As with incest, the penalty for having sex with animals decreased about the fourteenth century BC.”
-Harry A. Hoffner, Jr., “Incest, Sodomy and inappropriate behavior with animals in the Ancient Near East,” in Orient and Occident: Essays Presented to Cyrus H. Gordon (Neukirchen Vluyn, Germany: Neukirchener Verlag, 1973), 82.
Incest
“None of you shall approach anyone who is near of kin to him, to uncover his nakedness: I am the Lord.”
-Leviticus 18
“Like all Ancient Near East pantheons, the Canaanite pantheon was incestuous. Baal has sex with his mother Asherah, his sister Anat, and his daughter Pidray, and none of this is presented pejoratively.”
W. F. Albright, Yahweh and the Gods of Canaan: A Historical Analysis of Two Contrasting Faiths(Winona Lake, IN: Eisenbrauns, 1968), 145.
Adultery
In Canaanite temples there would be prostitutes chained up against the wall for near constant [sometimes lifelong] sexual intercourse.
“Canaanite religion, like that of all of the ANE, was a fertility religion that involved temple sex. Inanna/Ishtar, also known as the Queen of Heaven, “became the woman among the gods, patron of eroticism and sensuality, of conjugal love as well as adultery, of brides and prostitutes, transvestites and pederasts.”10 As University of Helsinki professor Martti Nissinen writes, “Sexual contact with a person whose whole life was devoted to the goddess was tantamount to union with the goddess herself.” -Gwendolyn Leick, Sex and Eroticism in Mesopotamian Literature (New York: Routledge, 1994),
Homosexuality
“You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination. ‘Do not defile yourselves with any of these things; for by all these the nations are defiled, which I am casting out before you”
-Leviticus 18
“No ANE text condemns homosexuality. Additionally, some ANE manuscripts talk about “party-boys and festival people who changed their masculinity into femininity to make the people of Ishtar revere her.” -Stephanie Dalley, “Erra and Ishum IV,” Myths from Mesopotamia (Oxford: Oxford University, 1989), 305.
1] We must assume we are god, that only we can tell and know what is morally acceptable or not.
2] We must assume their are such things as morals, “right” and “wrong” those ideas only make sense if a moral god created us. Since there are no true morals in an atheistic evolutionary scenario.
3]We must assume our evolved brains of completely random chemical reactions and matter can somehow have the right idea of what is right and wrong, our evolved animal brains formed by random chemical reactions and matter [dirt] that combined for a survival advantage. Certain evolved random chemicals and matter only “feel” killing is wrong because the random chemical reactions give them a chemical feeling that killing is wrong. Not because killing is morally wrong in an atheistic worldview as there is no standard of right or wrong. Hitler believed what he was doing was right and morally good [survival of the fittest get rid of unwanted holding back the human race]
“If it all happens nationalistically, who needs a god? Cant I set my own rules? Who owns me? I own myself”
-Jeffery Dahmer
“Let me summarize my views on what modern evolutionary biology tells us loud and clear. . . There are no gods, no purposes, no goal-directed forces of any kind. There is no life after death. When I die, I am absolutely certain that I am going to be dead. That’s the end for me. There is no ultimate foundation for ethics, no ultimate meaning to life, and no free will for humans, either.
-William Provine Professor Cornell University
However the bible does not say that god commanded genocide against innocents. A more accurate modern analogy would be as follows.
1]The land of Canaan being a piece of federally owned land legally inherited, state owned territory by previous president held for the good of the country.
2]Current occupant are a religious sect whose rituals include, incest, inappropriate behavior with animals, and burning children alive as a sacrifice among other crimes. For hundreds of years previous administrations have turned a blind eye to their activities and have refused to evict the tenants.
3]A group of civilians want to take up occupancy and have signed agreement to use the land in the way the government has saved the land for. Also promising to not follow in the sects criminal activities. Agreeing if they violate the agreement and commit the crimes, they will as well be evicted from the land.
4]The current culture of the sect has become so persuasive in area, that almost no person who lives there cannot avoid getting caught up up in it, and more and more people are getting involved in the crimes of the sect.
5]The sect is heavily armed and some will not leave unless evicted by force. The president authorizes the military to evict by force the occupants.
Hopefully I will show the above is the accurate biblical description of the conquest
Sins of the Canaanites- Child Sacrifice
You must not worship the LORD your God in their way, because in worshiping their gods, they do all kinds of detestable things the LORD hates. They even burn their sons and daughters in the fire as sacrifices to their gods.
-Deuteronomy 12.31
And you shall not let any of your descendants pass through the fire to Molech,
-Leviticus 18
They worshiped their idols, which became a snare to them. 37 They sacrificed their sons and their daughters to false gods. 38 They shed innocent blood, the blood of their sons and daughters, whom they sacrificed to the idols of Canaan, and the land was desecrated by their blood.
-Psalm 106 36-38
One of the most horrendous sins to God was that of child sacrifice. The Canaanites are well known through archaeology for their child sacrifice in religious ceremonies. After being displaced from Canaan they resettled in Carthage and continued to worship their gods with child sacrifice.
“Molech was a Canaanite underworld deity represented as an upright, bullheaded idol with a human body in whose belly a fire was stoked and in whose outstretched arms a child was placed that would be burned to death. The victims were not only infants; children as old as four were sacrificed...“as the flame burning the child surrounded the body, the limbs would shrivel up and the mouth would appear to grin as if laughing, until it was shrunk enough to slip into the cauldron.” -John Day, Molech: A God of Human Sacrifice in the Old Testament (Cambridge: Cambridge University, 1989),
“Funerary jars have been found with the bodies of young children distorted by suffocation as they struggled for life after having been buried alive as a sacrifice to Canaanite gods. Such young children have been found in the foundation pillars of Canaanite houses, and sometimes religious ceremonies were associated with their sacrifice....“The Canaanite religion was a horribly brutal system as well. For instance, the goddess Anath is pictured as killing humans by the thousands and wading knee-deep in blood. She cut off heads and hands and wore them as ornaments. And in all of this gruesomeness, the Baal-epic says that her liver was swollen with laughter and her joy was great.” -Wilson, 1973, p. 85). Wayne Jackson, M.A. Old Testament events and the goodness of God Old Testament Events and the Goodness of God
“The most significant part of the American excavations [at Carthage] occurred in the Tophet.The word Tophet comes from the Old Testament (e.g., 2 Kgs 23:10; Jer 7:30–32), referring to a place of child sacrifice and burial. Modern excavators applied the term Tophet to a cemetery we excavated bearing remains of children who had been ritually sacrificed as burnt offerings. It is the largest sacrificial cemetery ever found, measuring at least 60,000 square feet. Most stunning is the number of children sacrificed here—estimated at a minimum of 20,000 burials between 400–200 BC during only one-third the life of the cemetery! The excavators named the [archaeological] periods after Tanit, the Canaanite goddess of love and war. Child sacrifices at Carthage were dedicated to her and to the god Baal Hamon, a name that means “Lord of the Brazier.” They were brother and sister, as well as husband and wife!Carthaginians were descendants of Canaanites.
-John Currid. Abortion: Child Sacrifice Today? Bible and Spade (Winter 2012, 13) For quote of Canaanite second nature discussing child sacrifice The origin of the American Indian populations Joc 26 [11] 2012 p71
inappropriate behavior with animals
“Do not have sexual relations with an animal and defile yourself with it. A woman must not present herself to an animal to have sexual relations with it; that is a perversion.”
-Leviticus 18.23
“There should be no surprise that inappropriate behavior with animals would occur among the Canaanites, since their gods practiced it. From the Canaanite epic poem “The Baal Cycle” we learn: “Mightiest Baal hears / He makes love with a heifer in the outback / A cow in the field of Death’s Realm. / He lies with her seventy times seven / Mounts eighty times eight / [She conceiv]es and bears a boy.”
-Mark S. Smith, trans. Ugaritic Narrative Poetry, ed. Simon B. Parker (Atlanta: Society of Biblical Literature, 1997), 148.
Spiritual depravity will lead to sexual depravity and this is the case with the Canaanites. There were no prohibitions against inappropriate behavior with animals outside of Israel in the ancient near east. In an Egyptian dream book it was said that it was a bad omen for a woman to dream about embracing her husband, but good things would happen if she dreamed of intercourse with a baboon, wolf, or he-goat.
“Probably the ultimate sexual depravity is intercourse with animals. Hittite Laws: 199 states, “If anyone has intercourse with a pig or a dog, he shall die. If a man has intercourse with a horse or a mule, there is no punishment.” As with incest, the penalty for having sex with animals decreased about the fourteenth century BC.”
-Harry A. Hoffner, Jr., “Incest, Sodomy and inappropriate behavior with animals in the Ancient Near East,” in Orient and Occident: Essays Presented to Cyrus H. Gordon (Neukirchen Vluyn, Germany: Neukirchener Verlag, 1973), 82.
Incest
“None of you shall approach anyone who is near of kin to him, to uncover his nakedness: I am the Lord.”
-Leviticus 18
“Like all Ancient Near East pantheons, the Canaanite pantheon was incestuous. Baal has sex with his mother Asherah, his sister Anat, and his daughter Pidray, and none of this is presented pejoratively.”
W. F. Albright, Yahweh and the Gods of Canaan: A Historical Analysis of Two Contrasting Faiths(Winona Lake, IN: Eisenbrauns, 1968), 145.
Adultery
In Canaanite temples there would be prostitutes chained up against the wall for near constant [sometimes lifelong] sexual intercourse.
“Canaanite religion, like that of all of the ANE, was a fertility religion that involved temple sex. Inanna/Ishtar, also known as the Queen of Heaven, “became the woman among the gods, patron of eroticism and sensuality, of conjugal love as well as adultery, of brides and prostitutes, transvestites and pederasts.”10 As University of Helsinki professor Martti Nissinen writes, “Sexual contact with a person whose whole life was devoted to the goddess was tantamount to union with the goddess herself.” -Gwendolyn Leick, Sex and Eroticism in Mesopotamian Literature (New York: Routledge, 1994),
Homosexuality
“You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination. ‘Do not defile yourselves with any of these things; for by all these the nations are defiled, which I am casting out before you”
-Leviticus 18
“No ANE text condemns homosexuality. Additionally, some ANE manuscripts talk about “party-boys and festival people who changed their masculinity into femininity to make the people of Ishtar revere her.” -Stephanie Dalley, “Erra and Ishum IV,” Myths from Mesopotamia (Oxford: Oxford University, 1989), 305.