Did God Bless What He Previously Cursed???

[BrotherD]

There are many who believe Christ has done away with the law. Now if this is true, does God bless what he previously cursed? Let us take a look at a few scriptures of the law that God has cursed and see if it is okay to do these things now.

Deuteronomy 27:15
[15]Cursed be the man that maketh any graven or molten image, an abomination unto the LORD, the work of the hands of the craftsman, and putteth it in a secret place. And all the people shall answer and say, Amen.

Is this done away with now? Can we make an graven image and put it in a secret place?

Deuteronomy 27:16
[16]Cursed be he that setteth light by his father or his mother. And all the people shall say, Amen.

Setteth light means to treat with contempt, dishonour, or disgrace. Is this acceptable now?

Deuteronomy 27:17
[17]Cursed be he that removeth his neighbour's landmark. And all the people shall say, Amen.

Is it okay now to remove your neighbors border or territory?

Deuteronomy 27:18
[18]Cursed be he that maketh the blind to wander out of the way. And all the people shall say, Amen.

When it says to make the blind wander it means to make them go astray, cause them to err. Now is this okay to do? Did Christ nail this law to the cross?

Deuteronomy 27:20-21
[20]Cursed be he that lieth with his father's wife; because he uncovereth his father's skirt. And all the people shall say, Amen.
[21]Cursed be he that lieth with any manner of beast. And all the people shall say, Amen.

Are these okay to do since Christ nailed the law to the cross?

Deuteronomy 27:22-25
[22]Cursed be he that lieth with his sister, the daughter of his father, or the daughter of his mother. And all the people shall say, Amen.
[23]Cursed be he that lieth with his mother in law. And all the people shall say, Amen.
[24]Cursed be he that smiteth his neighbour secretly. And all the people shall say, Amen.
[25]Cursed be he that taketh reward to slay an innocent person. And all the people shall say, Amen.

Can we say yes these things are okay to do this side of the cross? Last but not least:

Deuteronomy 27:26
[26]Cursed be he that confirmeth (continue, establish, confirm) not all the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen.

There is a curse upon the people if they do not all the things of the law. This side of the cross does not change what God has cursed. Rather thus saith the Lord:

Psalms 119:1
[1]ALEPH. Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.

Please read Psalms 119. This is the longest chapter in the bible and the one most often neglected. What are your thoughts? Peace and Blessings.

 

[GOD Shines Forth!]

Please read Psalms 119. This is the longest chapter in the bible and the one most often neglected. What are your thoughts?

If rooted and grounded in the gospel of the grace of God given to Paul for us (Ephesians 3:2), one can soar with Psalm 119 and it’s love of righteousness. If one tries to establish righteousness via Psalm 119 in this present age, they’ll fall to earth like a rock.

 

[Albion]

This question is rather uncomplicated. No, Christ did not do away with the law (i.e. the Decalogue). But his sacrifice on the cross changed the way mankind is to respond to the law.

 

[BrotherD]

If rooted and grounded in the gospel of the grace of God given to Paul for us (Ephesians 3:2), one can soar with Psalm 119 and it’s love of righteousness. If one tries to establish righteousness via Psalm 119 in this present age, they’ll fall to earth like a rock.

I agree. Only by faith can one keep the law.

 

[BrotherD]

This question is rather uncomplicated. No, Christ did not do away with the law (i.e. the Decalogue). But his sacrifice on the cross changed the way mankind is to respond to the law.

What do you mean by respond to the law?

 

[LoveGodsWord]

There are many who believe Christ has done away with the law. Now if this is true, does God bless what he previously cursed? Let us take a look at a few scriptures of the law that God has cursed and see if it is okay to do these things now.

Deuteronomy 27:15
[15]Cursed be the man that maketh any graven or molten image, an abomination unto the LORD, the work of the hands of the craftsman, and putteth it in a secret place. And all the people shall answer and say, Amen.

Is this done away with now? Can we make an graven image and put it in a secret place?

Deuteronomy 27:16
[16]Cursed be he that setteth light by his father or his mother. And all the people shall say, Amen.

Setteth light means to treat with contempt, dishonour, or disgrace. Is this acceptable now?

Deuteronomy 27:17
[17]Cursed be he that removeth his neighbour's landmark. And all the people shall say, Amen.

Is it okay now to remove your neighbors border or territory?

Deuteronomy 27:18
[18]Cursed be he that maketh the blind to wander out of the way. And all the people shall say, Amen.

When it says to make the blind wander it means to make them go astray, cause them to err. Now is this okay to do? Did Christ nail this law to the cross?

Deuteronomy 27:20-21
[20]Cursed be he that lieth with his father's wife; because he uncovereth his father's skirt. And all the people shall say, Amen.
[21]Cursed be he that lieth with any manner of beast. And all the people shall say, Amen.

Are these okay to do since Christ nailed the law to the cross?

Deuteronomy 27:22-25
[22]Cursed be he that lieth with his sister, the daughter of his father, or the daughter of his mother. And all the people shall say, Amen.
[23]Cursed be he that lieth with his mother in law. And all the people shall say, Amen.
[24]Cursed be he that smiteth his neighbour secretly. And all the people shall say, Amen.
[25]Cursed be he that taketh reward to slay an innocent person. And all the people shall say, Amen.

Can we say yes these things are okay to do this side of the cross? Last but not least:

Deuteronomy 27:26
[26]Cursed be he that confirmeth (continue, establish, confirm) not all the words of this law to do them. And all the people shall say, Amen.

There is a curse upon the people if they do not all the things of the law. This side of the cross does not change what God has cursed. Rather thus saith the Lord:

Psalms 119:1
[1]ALEPH. Blessed are the undefiled in the way, who walk in the law of the LORD.

Please read Psalms 119. This is the longest chapter in the bible and the one most often neglected. What are your thoughts? Peace and Blessings.

Good OP and thoughtful BrotherD. I would not say many think God's Law has been done away but the majority reading around this forum and around the would wide web. Perhaps they are the many being referred to that JESUS says on his return depart from me you who practice iniquity *Matthew 7:21-23.

 

[BrotherD]

Good OP and thoughtful BrotherD. I would not say many think God's Law has been done away but the majority reading around this forum and around the would wide web. Perhaps they are the many being referred to that JESUS says on his return depart from me you who practice iniquity *Matthew 7:21-23.

Thanks brother. Yes the Matthew 7:21-23 should make everyone seriously question themselves and see if they fit in that category.

 

[Junia]

What do you mean by respond to the law?

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Jesus didn't do away with the Law He fulfilled it. Met its standards for us. Because No one gets to heaven by their own efforts but faith in what Jesus did

 

[BrotherD]

I
Jesus didn't do away with the Law He fulfilled it. Met its standards for us. Because No one gets to heaven by their own efforts but faith in what Jesus did

What do you mean by fulfilled it?

 

[Bob S]

Any law dealing with morality is forever. Laws specifically given to Israel for ritual purposes ended with the coming of the new covenant at Calvary. The Bible doesn't ever call a laws dealing with morality as shadows, but it certainly does concerning ritual laws. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure what laws given only to Israel were and are dealing with morality.

 

[Bob S]

Jesus didn't have to do away with the Law. The covenant was an "IF" covenant and Israel didn't live up to its standards. When one party doesn't abide by the rules of the covenant the covenant can be made void by the other party. Israel destroyed the covenant and it came to an end allowing the new covenant to be ratified by Jesus blood at Calvary.

 

[BrotherD]

Jesus didn't have to do away with the Law. The covenant was an "IF" covenant and Israel didn't live up to its standards. When one party doesn't abide by the rules of the covenant the covenant can be made void by the other party. Israel destroyed the covenant and it came to an end allowing the new covenant to be ratified by Jesus blood at Calvary.

Do we observe the law then? Would you say the all the laws are still binding except the sacrificial?

 

[Bob S]

Do we observe the law then? Would you say the all the laws are still binding except the sacrificial?

No, I wouldn't say that. Certainly the sacrificial laws were shadows of Jesus the sacrifice for all mankind. I would include all the ritual days that were given only to Israel and all the rituals like not cutting sideburns, wearing certain cloth and the many more laws that have nothing to do with morality.


The new covenant is the covenant of Love. We treat our fellow man with respect and love. Gal 5:
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

Jesus commandment to us is that we love each other as He loves us and He goes on to say 13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. Jn15: 10-13. That is what Christianity is all about.

 

[clefty]

No, I wouldn't say that. Certainly the sacrificial laws were shadows of Jesus the sacrifice for all mankind. I would include all the ritual days that were given only to Israel and all the rituals like not cutting sideburns, wearing certain cloth and the many more laws that have nothing to do with morality.


The new covenant is the covenant of Love. We treat our fellow man with respect and love. Gal 5:
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

Jesus commandment to us is that we love each other as He loves us and He goes on to say 13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. Jn15: 10-13. That is what Christianity is all about.

Love eh?...like the world loves? Buddhists Hindus Muslims Catholics Protestants pagans? Even a pedophile claims he loves his victim...

Love includes temperance...hmmm...you mean working your employees 7 days a week to make more money might NOT proper? I mean they rest EVERY DAY right? Especially some of them which claim they do EVERY DAY...but ONLY when you bring up the seventh day Sabbath...

Love AS HE LOVES US...oh hey look! there is the STANDARD...no wonder when elsewhere it says IF you love AS HE LOVED one fulfills the Law...makes sense...no wonder "if you claim to abide in Him you must live as He did"...

Laying down your profit margins for a day of rest is indeed a great love...

Prolly WHY the Sabbath was made for man...He knew some other men NOT following Him His ways would certainly NOT allow it...and work his fellowman seven days a week...

So to LOVE AS HE LOVES US...does NOT include Sunday Ham dinners...

 

[Bob S]

Love eh?...like the world loves? Buddhists Hindus Muslims Catholics Protestants pagans? Even a pedophile claims he loves his victim...

Love includes temperance...hmmm...you mean working your employees 7 days a week to make more money might NOT proper? I mean they rest EVERY DAY right? Especially some of them which claim they do EVERY DAY...but ONLY when you bring up the seventh day Sabbath...

Love AS HE LOVES US...oh hey look! there is the STANDARD...no wonder when elsewhere it says IF you love AS HE LOVED one fulfills the Law...makes sense...no wonder "if you claim to abide in Him you must live as He did"...

Laying down your profit margins for a day of rest is indeed a great love...

Prolly WHY the Sabbath was made for man...He knew some other men NOT following Him His ways would certainly NOT allow it...and work his fellowman seven days a week...

So to LOVE AS HE LOVES US...does NOT include Sunday Ham dinners...

Sorry clefty your posts are not uplifting nor do they prove anything. It seems like you just have to express something even though they don't add anything to the debate.

 

[clefty]

Sorry clefty your posts are not uplifting nor do they prove anything. It seems like you just have to express something even though they don't add anything to the debate.

ouch...and when is the messenger attacked?

John 13:34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

Show me how this does NOT include the times He kept the sabbath LOVING people by even HEALING them on the Sabbath PURPOSELY to annoy the Pharissees...

You do realize He healed 7 times on the Sabbath each of which could have waited until the next day...

so what was that about Love...more specifically His Love...and what He expects of His He saved?

Paul Col 2:16 was clear "these ARE shadows" still and NOT WERE past tense shadows...but STILL pointing to things STILL to come...

Because Which commandment did He specifically state was made for man?

and which commandment did He specifically Instruct prayers be said That it would be kept into the future...?

 

[BrotherD]

No, I wouldn't say that. Certainly the sacrificial laws were shadows of Jesus the sacrifice for all mankind. I would include all the ritual days that were given only to Israel and all the rituals like not cutting sideburns, wearing certain cloth and the many more laws that have nothing to do with morality.


The new covenant is the covenant of Love. We treat our fellow man with respect and love. Gal 5:
22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, 23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

Jesus commandment to us is that we love each other as He loves us and He goes on to say 13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends. Jn15: 10-13. That is what Christianity is all about.

How would we know what constitutes love without the law? Man's version of love is corrupt i am pretty sure we can agree on that. 1 Corinthians 13 is all about true love, which i am sure you are very familiar with. The first and great commandment is to love God with our everything right? Do we show God love by doing the things he calls abominations like eating unclean foods? Do we show God love by forgetting his sabbath day to keep it holy?

Love can mean different things for different people. Only the law of God tells us what true love consists of. Jesus is love and he kept his Fathers commandments, so if Jesus kept the commandments shouldn't we?

 

[clefty]

How would we know what constitutes love without the law? Man's version of love is corrupt i am pretty sure we can agree on that. 1 Corinthians 13 is all about true love, which i am sure you are very familiar with. The first and great commandment is to love God with our everything right? Do we show God love by doing the things he calls abominations like eating unclean foods? Do we show God love by forgetting his sabbath day to keep it holy?

Love can mean different things for different people. Only the law of God tells us what true love consists of. Jesus is love and he kept his Fathers commandments, so if Jesus kept the commandments shouldn't we?

HalleluYah...indeed....

To be reborn is to love as He loved us...just as...

Even a child can have that faith...and millstones to those that would add or take away from His Word He incarnated for His children...