Democrats don't want origins of Ukraine probe revealed, just as they didn't want Russia probe known

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Your assertion that it was personal doesn't mean it was. Here's what Rand Paul had to say

What does Rand Paul know about it? I'd rather listen to what Ambassador Sondland had to say about it, since he was part of the team delivering the message to the Ukrainians about the required favor.

Sondland had responded that Trump cares only about "big stuff." When Holmes said that the Ukraine war was big, Sondland responded, " 'Big stuff' that benefits the President, like the Biden investigation that Mr. Giuliani was pushing," Holmes said.
 
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Incorrect.

The problem Democrats have is that Joe Biden is on video demanding Ukraine immediately fire the prosecutor investigating his son's company ... or else a billion dollars in aid would be withheld.

That's a QUID PRO QUO ... do this if you want the money ... some would call it a BRIBE for personal favor. The only real question is the degree of illegality.
He is on video representing the Obama administration, Senate Republicans, the IMF, and more demanding Ukraine fire the prosecutor who stopped, or was slow walking or ignoring the investigation into Burisma's founder. He had the authority to hold that money.
In contrast, Trump was withholding money that congress allotted for Ukraine, without the support of congress, and was only willing to release it if Zelensky ordered an investigation into the Bidens and made a television appearance announcing an investigation into Biden. That is withholding money, illegally from what I read, in return for a personal political favor. Two folks who listened to the July 25th call are testifying right now.
 
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Incorrect.

The problem Democrats have is that Joe Biden is on video demanding Ukraine immediately fire the prosecutor investigating his son's company ... or else a billion dollars in aid would be withheld.

That's a QUID PRO QUO ... do this if you want the money ... some would call it a BRIBE for personal favor. The only real question is the degree of illegality.
Official US policy cannot be illegal ...
 
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He is on video representing the Obama administration, Senate Republicans, the IMF, and more demanding Ukraine fire the prosecutor who stopped, or was slow walking or ignoring the investigation into Burisma's founder. He had the authority to hold that money.
In contrast, Trump was withholding money that congress allotted for Ukraine, without the support of congress, and was only willing to release it if Zelensky ordered an investigation into the Bidens and made a television appearance announcing an investigation into Biden. That is withholding money, illegally from what I read, in return for a personal political favor. Two folks who listened to the July 25th call are testifying right now.
I don’t think a day has gone by that these simple facts haven’t been repeated, and often to the same people.
 
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You are going to be shocked once this IG report surfaces. I assume around the 28th. For the first time we have a administration that is going to remove them.



That is what you are currently witnessing. The first President that actually defeated the deep state. This is history in the making.

The 28th is Thanksgiving. If it gets release on the 27th or 29th there is absolutely nothing in there. It will be completely lost in the Thanksgiving holiday and be old news by the time everyone gets back. Celebrities like getting divorces filed on the Wednesday afternoon before Thanksgiving for this very reason.
 
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