Democratic hopefuls say eating less meat will help the climate.

[Go Braves]

She doesn’t get under our skin. It’s more like we laugh.

She’s actually great for Trump.

Trump & his base have done more to give publicity to that young lady than the most expensive PR firms in the world ever could. Old folks on this forum have obsessively created threads her, and they are always a hoot. Y'all go ahead & enjoy yourselves laughing at her while the rest of us enjoying watching that spectacle.

 

[DaisyDay]

Animal waste is fertilizer.

If they used that instead of chemicals

Animal waste is chemicals. Water is chemicals. Air is chemicals. Ignorance, however, is not chemicals.

 

[RocksInMyHead]

Animal waste is chemicals. Water is chemicals. Air is chemicals. Ignorance, however, is not chemicals.

Lord, save us from the evils of dihydrogen monoxide!

 

[Gigimo]

Well, I was being far too optimistic with that bit of snark I see. We have already moved onto fecal contamination being shrugged off as well.

You should see what Water and Waste treatment plants put in the rivers and streams in their effluent.

Some of them are not the newest technology so the water isn't as good as it should be, and some of the chemicals from people flushing meds down the toilet are still there too. You should also see what goes in when heavy rains force them to just indiscriminately dump water in that hasn't been processed other than screening all the solids out.

 

[Gigimo]

Lord, save us from the evils of dihydrogen monoxide!

Does this means I can't make coffee or take showers anymore?

 

[Desk trauma]

You should see what Water and Waste treatment plants put in the rivers and streams in their effluent.

Some of them are not the newest technology so the water isn't as good as it should be, and some of the chemicals from people flushing meds down the toilet are still there too. You should also see what goes in when heavy rains force them to just indiscriminately dump water in that hasn't been processed other than screening all the solids out.

Now start making poop jokes in reply to any concerns raised about that and your golden, no need to address the issue in anyway at all.

 

[grasping the after wind]

Or maybe the problem is people are falling for claims that have no scientific basis.

Based upon widespread reporting of studies that do not adhere to proper scientific discipline but are replete with confirmation bias.

 

[Ophiolite]

America loves hamburgers

You seem to admire consistently bad decision making. Do you attribute that to genetics or upbringing?

 

[wing2000]

Based upon widespread reporting of studies that do not adhere to proper scientific discipline but are replete with confirmation bias.

....and, I would add, those seeking to profit from the same confirmation bias.

 

[KCfromNC]

One of the problems is that we've been lied to so much that we don't trust the scientific community.

Yeah, they tell us that we understand the principles of electricity and communications theory to build a world-wide network connecting billions of computing devices. But don't be deceived, no one in their right might would trust the scientific community and think they could post messages using this technology that would ever be read by anyone else.

 

[Gigimo]

Now start making poop jokes in reply to any concerns raised about that and your golden, no need to address the issue in anyway at all.

That seems to be the only one (daily talking point) you want to address even though there are others having the same effect

 

[Aldebaran]

Did you hear about that new meatless Burger King Burger.

A bunch of salt and preservatives and stuff you can’t even pronounce

Go get em’ vegens Keep it healthy

Yuk! Better to go natural.
I wonder who's making money off this newfangled stuff and passing it off as a "healthier alternative".

 

[Gigimo]

Yuk! Better to go natural.
I wonder who's making money off this newfangled stuff and passing it off as a "healthier alternative".

Big Pharma

 

[LostMarbels]

Plants produce considerable amounts of nitrous oxide. Maybe we shouldn't have lawns or vegetable farms.

 

[Cimorene]

We only have 10 years.

Party on! AOC bartend again. Get me a brandy and coke with a lime. Stat girl.

If by "we" you mean Trump supporters & Trump himself that may actually be correct. Unfortunately there are Boomers who hold the same wildly ignorant views Trump does about exercise & lie to themselves about their weight problems as he does instead of taking sensible care to be able to maintain better health. It's a similar concept with taking care of the planet. No, Earth isn't going to "die" like the way all humans will but the damage inflicted on it due to ignorance, laziness, indifference is tangible.

Thankfully in all regards I'm not a part of that "we" and neither is AOC. Maybe try putting down that brandy & Coke with a lime & picking up an actual book on environmental science. Trying learning about facts. AOC never said we only have 10 yrs. She talked about how ppl of my generation, people of her generation, the ones who are going to live on Earth for a lot longer than the Boomers, have come to her concerned. A quote of hers where she was referencing those concerns of young people who've actually bothered to do things like, you know, read reports from the world's leading climate scientists, have expressed to her then got butchered from context. Which lead to the sort of people who do their "research" on sites with as much credibility as a fortune cookie mocking what she said & dishonestly misrepresenting it.

Thanks again for writing about how ashamed you are of Christians. You keep reminding me of how that's something we have in common.

 

[Aldebaran]

If by "we" you mean Trump supporters & Trump himself that may actually be correct. Unfortunately there are Boomers who hold the same wildly ignorant views Trump does about exercise & lie to themselves about their weight problems as he does instead of taking sensible care to be able to maintain better health. It's a similar concept with taking care of the planet. No, Earth isn't going to "die" like the way all humans will but the damage inflicted on it due to ignorance, laziness, indifference is tangible.

Thankfully in all regards I'm not a part of that "we" and neither is AOC. Maybe try putting down that brandy & Coke with a lime & picking up an actual book on environmental science. Trying learning about facts. AOC never said we only have 10 yrs. She talked about how ppl of my generation, people of her generation, the ones who are going to live on Earth for a lot longer than the Boomers, have come to her concerned. A quote of hers where she was referencing those concerns of young people who've actually bothered to do things like, you know, read reports from the world's leading climate scientists, have expressed to her then got butchered from context. Which lead to the sort of people who do their "research" on sites with as much credibility as a fortune cookie mocking what she said & dishonestly misrepresenting it.

Thanks again for writing about how ashamed you are of Christians. You keep reminding me of how that's something we have in common.

The problem is that climate scientists were making the same predictions decades earlier. When I was in school in the 70s and 80's, we were being told that we might not even make it to the year 2000. That put a fear into me about what would happen when that year would come. I always thought it might be the end of the world or something. The people writing the science textbooks would try scaring the kids with statements like, "we'll be gasping for air". Well, it's 19 years beyond that and smog is a thing of the past in most places. The air is cleaner than in the late 20th century. Yet we're still given that same old 10 or 12 year deadline. It seems to be mostly aimed at those young enough to be in school, just like in the old days. Problem is, those kids eventually grow up and look back and can tell their own kids about how they were told the same things back in their own school days, and it turned out to be untrue.

 

[Cimorene]

The problem is that climate scientists were making the same predictions decades earlier. When I was in school in the 70s and 80's, we were being told that we might not even make it to the year 2000. That put a fear into me about what would happen when that year would come. I always thought it might be the end of the world or something. The people writing the science textbooks would try scaring the kids with statements like, "we'll be gasping for air". Well, it's 19 years beyond that and smog is a thing of the past in most places. The air is cleaner than in the late 20th century. Yet we're still given that same old 10 or 12 year deadline. It seems to be mostly aimed at those young enough to be in school, just like in the old days. Problem is, those kids eventually grow up and look back and can tell their own kids about how they were told the same things back in their own school days, and it turned out to be untrue.

In the 70s, the 80s, I'm sure that there were dire warnings made about the future of the environment if no action was taken. Which is why it's great that some actually bothered to listen & take action.

Bush Had a Lasting Impact on Climate and Air Policy

 

[wing2000]

The problem is that climate scientists were making the same predictions decades earlier. When I was in school in the 70s and 80's, we were being told that we might not even make it to the year 2000. That put a fear into me about what would happen when that year would come. I always thought it might be the end of the world or something. The people writing the science textbooks would try scaring the kids with statements like, "we'll be gasping for air". Well, it's 19 years beyond that and smog is a thing of the past in most places. The air is cleaner than in the late 20th century. Yet we're still given that same old 10 or 12 year deadline. It seems to be mostly aimed at those young enough to be in school, just like in the old days. Problem is, those kids eventually grow up and look back and can tell their own kids about how they were told the same things back in their own school days, and it turned out to be untrue.

And the air is cleaner today...thanks to government regulation. If today's GOP was in power back in the 1970s, we would still have air like Mexico City.

 

[GoldenBoy89]

The problem is that climate scientists were making the same predictions decades earlier. When I was in school in the 70s and 80's, we were being told that we might not even make it to the year 2000. That put a fear into me about what would happen when that year would come. I always thought it might be the end of the world or something. The people writing the science textbooks would try scaring the kids with statements like, "we'll be gasping for air". Well, it's 19 years beyond that and smog is a thing of the past in most places. The air is cleaner than in the late 20th century. Yet we're still given that same old 10 or 12 year deadline. It seems to be mostly aimed at those young enough to be in school, just like in the old days. Problem is, those kids eventually grow up and look back and can tell their own kids about how they were told the same things back in their own school days, and it turned out to be untrue.

And you think no changes have been made since the 70s to mitigate the effects of air pollution? Obviously it’s because people took the scientists seriously back then that we even have clean air today. The problem with pollution is that it’s not just a one time fix and the problem is gone. We have to continue working at it or things start to slip back to how they were, especially now that the global human population is nearly double what it was in the 70s. And the alarms are aimed at children specifically because they’re the ones who will have to live with the bad choices we adults are making today. If you wish to change the future, the older generations that nearing expiration are the last ones you need to focus on.

 

[Aussie Pete]

Yeah, they tell us that we understand the principles of electricity and communications theory to build a world-wide network connecting billions of computing devices. But don't be deceived, no one in their right might would trust the scientific community and think they could post messages using this technology that would ever be read by anyone else.

Agree. I don't do facebook. I don't send email by my phone and neither do I bank by phone. I assume that anything I send by email or on-line is vulnerable. When I was working, some people would email me their credit card details to pay for their orders. Not a practice I'd encourage, that's for sure.