Democratic Candidates call for mandatory gun buy back

[Acts2:38]

So, the precaution you take is to make it more difficult for anyone to access these weapons...

Or you could:

So if you want more "safety precautions" against this, dont make it harder for the law-abiding citizens who dont crack their nuts. Instead, allow armed teachers, janitors, and other such citizens. Of course trained, but do that instead of making it harder for everyone else. This will increase the chances for most, if not ALL the possible victims survival.

Makes criminals think twice when their life would be at risk. If you notice the trend like I said before, criminals usually choose places that are not armed compared to ones that are.

Yes, we had one in Australia just the other week. Several guys took him down with a chair and a milk crate....if he had been armed with the kind of weapon available in the US, who knows how many he would have killed...?

I'm glad people were able to help.

The same thing happened to the passenger airliners before the trade towers were hit. Whole planes full of with 50 people on one plane and over 80 on the other, and not one person could stand up to the terrorists with box cutters and knives.

So, in essence, roughly 8 people with knives killed 80 people just on one of the air flights alone. No gun was needed there, just some box cutters.

 

[Skreeper]

Now try to flip this around. What if casinos allowed citizens to bring weapons onto the premises? Maybe someone in the hotel at that time it happened could have done something?

The Latest: Hotel guest reported hearing Vegas shots nearby

Pretty sad. If that hotel guest was able to have weapons, they could have stopped the shooter. I'm sure that wasnt the only person to hear the gunfire either in a large hotel as that one.

Interesting thought right?

Ah yes, because your every day citizen magically turns into a hero without fear who runs towards gunfire just by virtue of having a 9mm...

I suppose anything is possible, but frankly, that is a ridiculous scenario. Usually someone would use that "corner" as cover and relay warnings/ get information from the "unknown" person with a gun.

Furthermore, crowds run away from the perpetrator. I don't think it would be that hard to find the right guy to mark. Especially after you can hear where its coming from.

In any case, the article I had provided previously shows that the uptick in gun ownership decreased the criminal activities/etc. So with that said, if a criminal knows a certain area is full of, how do you people usually state it? "gun toting" people. Then the criminal is less likely to attack that area.

Example:
Your area does not have a gun

My area does have a gun

Criminal understands that my area has a gun

Criminal goes to victimize your area instead

That's pretty much how it will work. And why not? It would be easier for them with less risk.

Not all criminals are rational people. Many don't carefully plan their act but just act on pure emotion or impulse action.

And even if you have a gun, it doesn't help you that much if a guy comes up from behind and puts a gun to your head.

Maybe we should try to make it harder for criminals to get guns, no?

 

[Aldebaran]

Ah yes, because your every day citizen magically turns into a hero without fear who runs towards gunfire just by virtue of having a 9mm...

Not all criminals are rational people. Many don't carefully plan their act but just act on pure emotion or impulse action.

And even if you have a gun, it doesn't help you that much if a guy comes up from behind and puts a gun to your head.

Maybe we should try to make it harder for criminals to get guns, no?

Your goading remarks aside...
Do you assume that a citizen with a gun is no better off than if he was unarmed? If so, how do you explain how the criminal with the gun is able to kill so many people? Why not just say, "Some wannabe Rambo with an AR15 walks into a Walmart and thinks his gun is going to turn him into some sort of super-human killing machine"?
Why the assumption that the only people who can use a gun effectively are the criminals?

 

[Skreeper]

Your goading remarks aside...
Do you assume that a citizen with a gun is no better off than if he was unarmed? If so, how do you explain how the criminal with the gun is able to kill so many people? Why not just say, "Some wannabe Rambo with an AR15 walks into a Walmart and thinks his gun is going to turn him into some sort of super-human killing machine"?
Why the assumption that the only people who can use a gun effectively are the criminals?

Fear. That is the deciding factor.

Self-preservation is a pretty strong emotion, and just because you have a gun doesn't mean you suddenly have no fear when having to deal with a shooter.

A criminal with suicidal tendecies doesn't care if he lives or dies. It's not hard to operate a gun, but it's hard for a civilian to surpress fear and actually choose fight over flight.

 

[Paulos23]

Example:
Your area does not have a gun

My area does have a gun

Criminal understands that my area has a gun

Criminal goes to victimize your area instead

That's pretty much how it will work. And why not? It would be easier for them with less risk.

It is not that simple. Some robbers will be robbing you for that gun. Or they are robbing your house and find the gun, and then you come home (which happened to a friend of mine).

Just having a gun and letting it be known it is there does not keep the bad people away.

 

[Allandavid]

Or you could:

So if you want more "safety precautions" against this, dont make it harder for the law-abiding citizens who dont crack their nuts. Instead, allow armed teachers, janitors, and other such citizens. Of course trained, but do that instead of making it harder for everyone else. This will increase the chances for most, if not ALL the possible victims survival.

Makes criminals think twice when their life would be at risk. If you notice the trend like I said before, criminals usually choose places that are not armed compared to ones that are.



I'm glad people were able to help.

The same thing happened to the passenger airliners before the trade towers were hit. Whole planes full of with 50 people on one plane and over 80 on the other, and not one person could stand up to the terrorists with box cutters and knives.

So, in essence, roughly 8 people with knives killed 80 people just on one of the air flights alone. No gun was needed there, just some box cutters.

Again, the gun massacres, which are the subject of this discussion, are not committed by ‘criminals’....they are committed by otherwise “law-abiding citizens”! You have no way of telling who the person was going to be that perpetrated most of those disasters. Until the moment they acted, they were just like any other man on the street...

So, because you can’t pinpoint who the murderer is going to be, you do everything you can to prevent him from getting his hands on a weapon in the first place...!

 

[Aldebaran]

Fear. That is the deciding factor.

Self-preservation is a pretty strong emotion, and just because you have a gun doesn't mean you suddenly have no fear when having to deal with a shooter.

Without realizing it, you made the case I'm trying to make. Yes, fear is a motivator for self-preservation. If a shooter is in the building where I am and is killing people, I'm going to be fearful, and I'm going to want to preserve my life, along with anyone else's I can. I've never been in a mass-shooting situation where I've had nothing I could do but hide under a desk or in a closet, but it's hard to imagine that those who had no other recourse thinking, "I'm sure glad I'm unarmed". It's far more likely they wished for the opposite.

A criminal with suicidal tendecies doesn't care if he lives or dies. It's not hard to operate a gun, but it's hard for a civilian to surpress fear and actually choose fight over flight.

Fear is what makes a person choose flight or fight. It also give them the ability to do whichever one is available (or possible) for them to do. If flight is possible, then they can flee fast. If flight is not possible, then they must fight. But they should have that ability.

 

[wing2000]

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