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Defining marriage

Discussion in 'Christian Scriptures' started by Carl Emerson, Aug 6, 2020.

  1. pescador

    pescador Newbie Supporter

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    Does God perform the marriage ceremony in Indonesia? Here in the US people, with God's authority and blessing, have always performed the marriage ceremony.
     
  2. antwaniiz

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    Romans 8:5
    For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
     
  3. pescador

    pescador Newbie Supporter

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    Non sequitur! What are you trying to say?
     
  4. antwaniiz

    antwaniiz Member

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    If you do not understand what I said then you will not understand anything else I add to it.
     
  5. Radagast

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    As I understand it, Christians in Indonesia have a church wedding, followed by endorsement of paperwork by a government official.
     
  6. pescador

    pescador Newbie Supporter

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    In other words you can't be bothered to rephrase your statement. So, it has no value.
     
  7. antwaniiz

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    God judge between you and I.
    Now it is up to Him.
     
  8. pescador

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    Then your posts are useless as far as I'm concerned.
     
  9. antwaniiz

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    Your concerns are not my concerns.
     
  10. tturt

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    How did marriage look in Jesus' time?

    Researched Scripture for posts 8 and 45. Yes, these are OT but tear out the page that says New Testament and that's how the marriage ceremonies would have been basically.
     
  11. pescador

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    Then why are you bothering to post anything? Obviously you want people to read and accept what you say. If you're just "blowing air" what's the point?
     
  12. antwaniiz

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    Now you know why I do not bother to converse with you.

    I look to plant in good soil that will yield a blessing for the Lord.
     
  13. pescador

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    You just did converse with me with your reply. ;^)

    When you write, "I look to plant in good soil that will yield a blessing for the Lord" does that include me or are you just contradicting your previous sentence?
     
  14. antwaniiz

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    I will pass that along to the Lord the next time I talk to Him.
     
  15. concretecamper

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    hmmm, where have I seen that claim before ;)
     
  16. rnmomof7

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    States used to call it "common law" marriage.. if a couple had lived together a prescribed number of years.. Personally I do not see any scripture that demands a ceremony to make a couple married in Gods eyes.. Today marriage is a public contract having nothing to do with God.
    I have read that polygamy was also practiced at the time of Jesus just as we see in the OT...But we are told adultery and fornication is a sin...
     
  17. Agallagher

    Agallagher WeAreGivenThePowerToBecomeSonsAndDaughtersOfGod

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    Carl, I do not know if one could possibly argue a refutable claim using the bible to how to define marriage.

    Like you stated: We know that Jesus attended the wedding a Canna but we don't know if the participants were already cohabiting.

    You know there was a person, at work who lived with her boyfriend at the time, which they are now separated.

    However at the time, I explained to her even though you both are not married by papers, you both are married because you are together with each other because of you have both made the decision to try and stick it out.

    She denied that fact, and however that is the way I see it for anyone who is living together with someone they are either trying to work it out with and make life work together between each other.

    Man and woman come together after leaving, their mother and father, and living into a new life with someone they desire to be with, and if they agree on these matters, by definition they would become one flesh, (living together, living to support each other, children, having to pay bills together, Ie: becoming one in togetherness.)

    (Like Yeshua, stating that Him and His Father are one.)

    I rather marriage be this than have some pastor or someone who thinks that they are ordained to grant me the right by the Power of God, and by the state. it is pretty much just worldy, even though I will say if you wanna just go up the justice of the peace and get married together by last name that is fine to but it's all on how you really look at it I believe.

    Just some thoughts. Thanks for reading.
     
  18. tturt

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    Where's the Biblical reference for trying to work it out without a ceremony of some type?

    Rabbi Daniel Lapin encourages couples before dating talk on the phone for hours to get to know each other. This is without exchanging photos, etc
     
    Last edited: Aug 12, 2020
  19. Carl Emerson

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    Your first question is covered in the OP.

    However I have found your offerings from scripture very helpful - thanks again.
     
  20. pescador

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    I don't understand your reply. Quoting a single verse out of context doesn't answer my question so I'll repeat it: does God perform the marriage ceremony in Indonesia? Here in the US people, with God's authority and blessing, have always performed the marriage ceremony.
     
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