Death Toll To Go Up 65% By The End Of October

[pitabread]

The old all Trump supporters are uneducated or stupid or both is not only a lie but an insult to nearly 63 million people.

Trump voters are disproportionately less educated. They are also disproportionately older, so there could be a correlation in that regard (since older generations tend to have less education than younger generations).

 

[disciple Clint]

Be specific.

I believe it is your turn to answer my question.

 

[disciple Clint]

Sounds like things would get done, whether or not he was President......roll on November!

yes the question is what things should be done, that is the key to the election.

 

[disciple Clint]

I didn't say that. Not at all. I merely noted how a voting bloc that lacks education and self-awareness will likely vote for someone who is either similarly uneducated OR someone who will take advantage of them (because they lack that self-awareness or are easily led).

The fact that YOU drew the conclusion that it was related ONLY to Trump supporters or that it related to ALL Trump supporters says more about your views.

Yes it says that I am very much aware of the contents of the posts of those who dislike Trump.

 

[disciple Clint]

Trump voters are disproportionately less educated. They are also disproportionately older, so there could be a correlation in that regard (since older generations tend to have less education than younger generations).

I would love to see your evidence for that particular the older generations vs younger generations. I would also question the quality of the education of the younger generation, we have "college graduates" who cannot answer high school history and government questions and others who cannot solve simple math questions, I am not impressed.

 

[Allandavid]

I would love to see your evidence for that particular the older generations vs younger generations. I would also question the quality of the education of the younger generation, we have "college graduates" who cannot answer high school history and government questions and others who cannot solve simple math questions, I am not impressed.

Older and less educated....

 

[FireDragon76]

Trump voters are disproportionately less educated.

That's not really in dispute in terms of fact, for anyone who cares to spend even a few minutes in basic research. It's astounding this is somehow controversial.

 

[KCfromNC]

Agreed, but just consider how dialogue has deteriorated since the decision was made to get Trump out of office.

Nah, dialogue (from some people) had already deteriorated before Donald was in office :

“Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible.”

I mean, if you want to argue he's deteriorated since the I won't argue, but I think you've misidentified the root cause of the issue.

 

[cow451]

It's no longer necessary to even come close to the facts with the accusations. All that matters is how shocking they sound.

The best description of Trump’s playbook I’ve heard in awhile.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I believe it is your turn to answer my question.

Sorry, you made a claim that appears to be false. There is no way to answer it. I can tell you what he did not do. I can tell you some of the claims that he made, but did not follow up on.

Once again, be specific. Or did you forget what you claimed already?

 

[disciple Clint]

Sorry, you made a claim that appears to be false. There is no way to answer it. I can tell you what he did not do. I can tell you some of the claims that he made, but did not follow up on.

Once again, be specific. Or did you forget what you claimed already?

I have not forgotten anything, this is the question you need to answer "What was not positive in getting additional resources to battle covid?" Just follow the little arrows back and you can track our conversation.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I have not forgotten anything, this is the question you need to answer "What was not positive in getting additional resources to battle covid?" Just follow the little arrows back and you can track our conversation.

And you couldn't name any. That of course is not saying that he did not do something, but there is no doubt that he did far less than he could have or should have.

 

[istodolez]

Yes it says that I am very much aware of the contents of the posts of those who dislike Trump.

I'm so sorry!

I can certainly understand why people like you support Trump. He offers many of the things you value, no doubt.

What is your FAVORITE thing about Donald Trump? Is it his wealth? Is it his "straight shooting, no-nonsenes truthfulness"? Is it his sharp politically strategic mind?

Maybe through your witness for Trump I will come to know him and what he has to offer!

 

[istodolez]

That's not really in dispute in terms of fact, for anyone who cares to spend even a few minutes in basic research. It's astounding this is somehow controversial.

I think the problem is equating "education" with "intelligence". It IS possible to lack education but be very intelligent. And I'm 100% certain there are folks out there who support Trump who are quite smart but didn't go very far in school.

It is a rough correlation. I also see education as not necessarily "Creating intelligence" but rather giving information. So if one lacks education they may not have a broader view of history. That doesn't mean they aren't intelligence...just that they lack the detailed "framework" to parse things that are sold to them.

I also feel, though, that some who are both less educated and less intelligent will probably prefer a certain suite of features to the leaders they select and support.

 

[istodolez]

And you couldn't name any. That of course is not saying that he did not do something, but there is no doubt that he did far less than he could have or should have.

The fact that Trump did something should be sufficient for us. Sure our country is mysteriously failing horrifically in the COVID pandemic and the EU is down to low numbers of death rate while we are climbing again, but we must not, at any point, assume that the leadership of our country was in any way responsible for doing more. They did the minimum (often at the last minute) and that is all we can ask for.

We must face COVID with the same pioneering spirit of individuality that made America great. We are not a "nation" per se. We are a loose agglomeration of people with minimal attachment to "others" so, of course, it's going to be hard going for us. We lack modern conveniences like access to affordable healthcare across the board or the ability to "make" things on an industrial scale. But that's because we DON'T VALUE those things. If we valued them we'd probably be pretty good at them. But we don't so we don't have to worry.

We are a nation that will bare-knuckle brawl with COVID and see if we can beat it "mano-a-mano" rather than using those fancy-pants systems the hoity-toity fancy people in developed nations use. And in the end our victory over COVID will be much more manly!

Unlike the weaklings who cowered behind "science" we will show the world you can beat COVID the old fashioned way: by throwing enough human bodies at it that it finally gets exhausted!

 

[CitizenD]

[STAFF EDITED]

Not funny, Citizen.

I was there, marching in the streets protesting the Iraq war. I don't recall seeing many of you conservatives there.

In fact, I distinctly remember your kind calling my kind scum for opposing the war.

Rush Limbaugh. Michael Savage. Hannity. All the conservative media and many of their followers denigrated protesters of the Iraq war in 2003.

I wrote my senators and congress rep. I wrote congress reps from any district I was even remotely affiliated with. My church wrote letters to oppose the war and protested with me. I don't recall any conservative members of the church at that protest.

When it came down to actually doing anything about the Iraq War. I remember conservatives on the opposite side of the line from liberals.

 

[disciple Clint]

And you couldn't name any. That of course is not saying that he did not do something, but there is no doubt that he did far less than he could have or should have.

I see you have no answer to my question

 

[disciple Clint]

I'm so sorry!

I can certainly understand why people like you support Trump. He offers many of the things you value, no doubt.

What is your FAVORITE thing about Donald Trump? Is it his wealth? Is it his "straight shooting, no-nonsenes truthfulness"? Is it his sharp politically strategic mind?

Maybe through your witness for Trump I will come to know him and what he has to offer!

He is not a liberal or a globalist or an elitist, is not afraid to say what he thinks and is obligated to no one. He owes no favors to lobbyists or people who have benefited his family members. He knows how to stimulate business and the economy. He is not trying to rewrite American history and he is not trying to radically change our nation or our values. He is not in favor of crazy idealistic programs that will bankrupt our nation as it they have in some socialist nations. Sorry if you do not see the value in those qualities. I do not want our nation to end up like Venezuela or some of our cities that have been mismanaged by liberals and suffer civil unrest and incredible crime where children and babies are killed with no end in sight. Questions?

 

[Allandavid]

He is not a liberal or a globalist or an elitist, is not afraid to say what he thinks and is obligated to no one. He owes no favors to lobbyists or people who have benefited his family members. He knows how to stimulate business and the economy. He is not trying to rewrite American history and he is not trying to radically change our nation or our values. He is not in favor of crazy idealistic programs that will bankrupt our nation as it they have in some socialist nations. Sorry if you do not see the value in those qualities. I do not want our nation to end up like Venezuela or some of our cities that have been mismanaged by liberals and suffer civil unrest and incredible crime where children and babies are killed with no end in sight. Questions?

How do you know he owes no favours to elements outside of the US? How do you know that he can stimulate business or the economy? How would you describe his efforts to have the British Open moved to his golf club? How do you know he is not an elitist? How do you know that the crime in cities is caused by the ‘liberals’ who live there?

 

[Subduction Zone]

I see you have no answer to my question

You have that backwards. Try again.