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Death Penalty for Abortion

Discussion in 'Ethics & Morality' started by OGM, Sep 1, 2015.

  1. Cearbhall

    Cearbhall Unitarian Universalist

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    Murder is a legal term for illegal killing. A baby is a human who has been born. You are describing infanticide.

    So no, it's not a convincing argument to tell me that a legal instance of killing is somehow automatically wrong. Nor is it up to you whether it convinced me of anything. It did not.
     
  2. brewmama

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    No, a baby is still a baby before being born. You are just refusing to recognize his humanity. Therefore it is immoral, if (repugnantly)legal.
     
  3. Cearbhall

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    Erm, no. A fetus is every bit as human as a baby is. I'm well aware that we're discussing a homo sapiens fetus and not a member of an alien species that magically becomes human at birth.

    In casual talk, yes, I would respectfully refer to a fetus as a baby. Medically, no, the term refers to a human who has been born.
     
  4. brewmama

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    Well good. But somehow you find it moral to kill him
     
  5. Cearbhall

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    I'd say I'm rather morally neutral on the subject, which is why I'm pro-choice. I don't feel confident enough in my arguments one way or another to make the decision for other people. No criminalization, but no one-child policy, either.
     
  6. KitKatMatt

    KitKatMatt stupid bleeding heart feminist liberal

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    I don't know what this is even referring to, but ok.
     
  7. As I was saying

    As I was saying Well-Known Member

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    No I would not. It should be saved for the person who murders the baby.
     
  8. As I was saying

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    it doesn't alter the fact that every abortion kills a baby. Hitler considered it was legal to exterminate the Jews.
     
  9. As I was saying

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    That is right and we are the only species on the planet that deliberately murder our own.
     
  10. As I was saying

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    If it means that we do not murder innocent, defenseless babies in the womb, lets go back now.
     
  11. As I was saying

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    And it makes you think that people who have no problem killing innocent defenseless babies can vote.
     
  12. As I was saying

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    The facts are that pro-choice is a misnomer. Most women who have abortions do not get a choice. They are forced into it by husbands, boyfriends, parents or the abortion provider. One survey conducted found that 90% of the women who had an abortion were forced into it.
     
  13. Cearbhall

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    What legislation would you propose to improve this?
     
  14. MehGuy

    MehGuy The situation individual guy.. Supporter

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    I think women who have gotten abortions should get a good spanking, and maybe sent to their room.

    Maybe a Danny Tanner talk too.
     
  15. GrimKingGrim

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    First off you're for the death penalty for innocent women? And you feel as though we would murder people LESS in a time when the Crusades were a thing? And women were burned at the stake for being witches? What's wrong with you?

    Second, you do know that they're not babies when they're aborted.

    And third, that we don't just throw the fetus/zygote in the trash afterward. In fact it helps save lives with valuable medical advances.
     
    Last edited: Sep 3, 2015
  16. GrimKingGrim

    GrimKingGrim The Thin Dead Line of sanity

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    Show me this survey. Because I'm calling BS.
     
  17. asherahSamaria

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  18. GrimKingGrim

    GrimKingGrim The Thin Dead Line of sanity

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    Ha. Lions. Sharks. Several Ape species. Insects.
     
  19. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

    CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN Charlee. 8 /18 / 2017

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    Except people were killing their babies. Before abortions were legal. Which sometimes ended with mom harmed or dead.
     
  20. CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN

    CRAZY_CAT_WOMAN Charlee. 8 /18 / 2017

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    Imagine how empty churches and neighbor hoods would be, if women got the death penalty for abortion.
     
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