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Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by Douggg, Nov 14, 2018.

  1. Douggg

    Douggg anytime rapture, non-dispensationalist, futurist

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    Day of the Lord begins on an unknown day within the 7 years, with the transgression of desolation........then shortly thereafter, the great tribulation begins on day 1185 of the seven years with the abomination of desolation ...........

    then the great tribulation ends with Jesus's return.......

    and the Day of the Lord continues into the millennium rule......

    and then the final rebellion.......

    then the present heaven and earth consumed in fire......

    then the Great White Throne judgment.....

    and the Day of the Lord continues into and for eternity, with a new heaven and new earth, and new Jerusalem.
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    All on the Day of the Lord. There are different segments of it - which people tend to focus on just one particular segment to argue their view of what is the Day of the Lord.
     
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  2. BABerean2

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    The above sounds like something out of one of the "Left Behind" movies.

    There is no 7 year tribulation period in the Bible.
    It can be artificially produced by adding together two of the references to the 42 month period in the Book of Revelation, or by taking Daniel 9:27 out of its New Covenant context.

    Based on John 10:22, the "abomination of desolation" occurred during 167 BC, during the time of Antiochus Epiphanes.

    Matthew 24:15-16, and Luke 21:20-21 are clearly parallel accounts, since we have the exact same warning to flee to the mountains in both passages.

    Christ returns "in flaming fire" taking vengeance on those who do not know God in 2 Thessalonians 1:7-10.

    The fire comes at the end of Revelation chapter 20.

    In 2 Timothy 4:1, Christ judges both the living and the dead at His appearing.
    The "time of the judgment of the dead", with "reward" for some and "destruction" for others is found right after the 7th trumpet in Revelation 11:18. The 7th trumpet is the last trumpet in the Bible.

    The judgment of the dead is found at the end of Revelation chapter 20.

    Because Christ returns in Revelation 16:15-16, and also in chapter 19, we know the Book of Revelation is not in chronological order.



     
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  3. Douggg

    Douggg anytime rapture, non-dispensationalist, futurist

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    a pre-figuring of the end time event, forthcoming on day 1185, 1335 days before Jesus returns.

    Matthew 24:15-16 - end times, forthcoming during the 7 years. During the Day of the Lord.

    Luke 21:20-21 - 70 AD. Lead to the 2000 years diaspora of the Jews.

    All during the Day of the Lord.
     
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    /nvm
     
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    /nvm
     
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  7. Dave L

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    The great tribulation was for the Jews only. It happened with the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD. Christians experience tribulation throughout the New Covenant era. They are two separate tribulations.
     
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    The Great Tribulation happened in 70AD. Jesus said when YOU (present tense, second person, plural) see the abomination of desolation..... , addressing his disciples, then telling them to leave the area. Which BTW they did.
     
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    From "Antiquities of the Jews" by Josephus, Book 12, chapter 7

    "6. When therefore the generals of Antiochus's armies had been beaten so often, Judas assembled the people together, and told them, that after these many victories which God had given them, they ought to go up to Jerusalem, and purify the temple, and offer the appointed sacrifices. But as soon as he, with the whole multitude, was come to Jerusalem, and found the temple deserted, and its gates burnt down, and plants growing in the temple of their own accord, on account of its desertion, he and those that were with him began to lament, and were quite confounded at the sight of the temple; so he chose out some of his soldiers, and gave them order to fight against those guards that were in the citadel, until he should have purified the temple. When therefore he had carefully purged it, and had brought in new vessels, the candlestick, the table [of shew-bread], and the altar [of incense], which were made of gold, he hung up the veils at the gates, and added doors to them. He also took down the altar [of burnt-offering], and built a new one of stones that he gathered together, and not of such as were hewn with iron tools. So on the five and twentieth day of the month Casleu, which the Macedonians call Apeliens, they lighted the lamps that were on the candlestick, and offered incense upon the altar [of incense], and laid the loaves upon the table [of shew-bread], and offered burnt-offerings upon the new altar [of burnt-offering]. Now it so fell out, that these things were done on the very same day on which their Divine worship had fallen off, and was reduced to a profane and common use, after three years' time; for so it was, that the temple was made desolate by Antiochus, and so continued for three years. This desolation happened to the temple in the hundred forty and fifth year, on the twenty-fifth day of the month Apeliens, and on the hundred fifty and third olympiad: but it was dedicated anew, on the same day, the twenty-fifth of the month Apeliens, on the hundred and forty-eighth year, and on the hundred and fifty-fourth olympiad. And this desolation came to pass according to the prophecy of Daniel, which was given four hundred and eight years before; for he declared that the Macedonians would dissolve that worship [for some time].

    7. Now Judas celebrated the festival of the restoration of the sacrifices of the temple for eight days, and omitted no sort of pleasures thereon; but he feasted them upon very rich and splendid sacrifices; and he honored God, and delighted them by hymns and psalms. Nay, they were so very glad at the revival of their customs, when, after a long time of intermission, they unexpectedly had regained the freedom of their worship, that they made it a law for their posterity, that they should keep a festival, on account of the restoration of their temple worship, for eight days. And from that time to this we celebrate this festival, and call it Lights. I suppose the reason was, because this liberty beyond our hopes appeared to us; and that thence was the name given to that festival. Judas also rebuilt the walls round about the city, and reared towers of great height against the incursions of enemies, and set guards therein. He also fortified the city Bethsura, that it might serve as a citadel against any distresses that might come from our enemies. "


    Josephus confirms above the understanding of the Jews of his time, who knew that Daniel had predicted the events of 167 BC, by Antiochus Epiphanes.
    Josephus confirms it as a historical fact.


    John 10:22 is a reference to the celebration of Hanukkah each year by the Jews of Jesus time.


    The Book of Matthew was addressed mainly to a Jewish audience. Jesus was telling the Jews of His time that something similar to 167 BC would happen during 70 AD. Not only did Antiochus desecrate the temple, but he also attacked the city killing thousands of Jews and stopped the temple sacrifices. The temple sacrifices would also stop in 70 AD, due to the destruction of the temple. Based on John 10:22, the Jews were well aware of this historical fulfillment of Daniel’s prophecy. Luke’s Gospel was written to more of a Gentile audience, so he spelled it out for them.


    Matthew 24:15-16 and Luke 21:20-21 are clearly parallel accounts, because we have the exact same warning to flee from Judea to the mountains in the second verse of each Gospel.


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  12. Revealing Times

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    The Day of the Lord is God's Wrath on mankind, the Greatest Troubles ever happen during this time period. It lasts for 3.5 years and starts when the First Seal is opened. It does not last into the New Millenium. It starts when the Anti-Christ Conquers Jerusalem and THE MANY Nations surrounding it to become THE BEAST at the 1260 Event, which happens 30 days after the 1290 or the AoD event.
     
  13. Douggg

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    There are different segments of the Day of the Lord - which people tend to focus on just one particular segment to argue their view of what is the Day of the Lord.

    RT, when does this happen?

    10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
     
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    There were no chapters or verses in Paul's first letter to the Thessalonians when it was written.
    The timing of the event at the end of chapter 4 is found at the beginning of chapter 5, on "the day of the Lord" when He "comes as a thief".


    The words "we" and "sleep" in 1 Thessalonians 5:10 prove that chapter 5 is connected to chapter 4.




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  15. Douggg

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    The passage I quoted was from 2Peter3. It was written by Peter, not Paul.
     
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    1Th 5:1 But concerning the times and the seasons, brethren, you have no need that I should write to you.
    1Th 5:2 For you yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so comes as a thief in the night.


    2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up.

    They were both written by God, through the same Holy Spirit in both men.

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  17. keras

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    Same old ideas, from the usual suspects!
    Your quote above, Douggg, from 2 Peter 3:10, [why don't you put in the full chapter and verse, so people can look it up?] Proves that the Day of the Lord is only a single Day. What is described there and in 100 other prophesies, are things that can only happen in one day, not a extended period like you promote.
    It will be the Day that 'comes as a thief', unexpectedly and will shock the world. Then, the nations will organize a One World Govt of ten world regions, that will eventually, be taken over a powerful leader. Revelation 17:12
    But we Christians will migrate to the holy Land, where God promises to bless His people. Isaiah 35:1-10, Ezekiel 34:11-31, Romans 9:24-26
     
  18. Revealing Times

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    The thief reference is pointing out that they did not WATCH or else they would not have been in their SINS when the Lord returned for the Church. Likewise, Paul started that we are not OF THE DARKNESS that the Day of the Lord should overtake us.

    The Day of the Lord is God's Wrath, it runs from the First Seal unto the 7th Vial, all the GRASSES and a 1/3 of the Trees will burn up, but the earth will not be destroyed entirely during the Day of the Lord. The day of the Lord is God's Wrath/Judgment.
     
  19. Douggg

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    RT, you did not answer the question.

    During the day of the Lord, the earth and everything in it is burnt up. That's what it says in 2Peter3:10. It does not happen during the 7 years.

    It happens at the end of the last rebellion by Satan, at the end of the thousand year millennium, in Revelation 20:11.
     
  20. Douggg

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    Just the opposite. It is an expression, that begins in the 7 years and extends for eternity.
     
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