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Day of Rest, Established At Creation or Not?

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Some say the Seventh day of rest was established at creation and made Holy, others say it was given to Israel and nothing to do with Christians. Some say it was changed to Sunday. What are your thoughts, hopefully opinions backed up by scripture on the subject?
 
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Some say the Seventh day of rest was established at creation and made Holy, others say it was given to Israel and nothing to do with Christians. Some say it was changed to Sunday. What are your thoughts, hopefully opinions back up by scripture on the subject?

I see it as Saturday. If it does apply I'm going to be in trouble for listening to those that say it doesn't.
 
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Some say the Seventh day of rest was established at creation and made Holy, others say it was given to Israel and nothing to do with Christians. Some say it was changed to Sunday. What are your thoughts, hopefully opinions backed up by scripture on the subject?

No other day has ever been sanctified as the day of rest. The Sabbath Day begins at sundown on Friday and ends at sundown on Saturday. Genesis 2:1-3; Exodus 20:8-11; Isaiah 58:13-14; 56:1-8; Acts 17:2; Acts 18:4, 11; Luke 4:16; Mark 2:27-28; Matthew 12:10-12; Hebrews 4:1-11; Genesis 1:5, 13-14; Nehemiah 13:19.

Nowhere in His Word did Jesus change the 7th day Sabbath He created. Jesus kept the 7th day Sabbath even in His death .... He rested in the tomb.

Sunday keeping is "baggage" that came out of paganism, crept into the early church, made most prominent during the reign of Constantine and this "baggage" is still being adhered to today through the catholic church with many protestants "chiming" in with the catholic church .... evidentially agreeing with them that the catholic church had to authority to change it ?????????

What church has the authority and/or power to change anything God created????? None.

And the catholic church concurs .... The 7th Day Sabbath was never changed ...


In An Abridgment of the Christian Doctrine,
Q. How prove you that the church hath power to command feasts and holy days?
A. By the very act of changing the Sabbath into Sunday, which Protestants allow of; and therefore they fondly contradict themselves, by keeping Sunday strictly, and breaking most other feasts commanded by the same church.

Q. How prove you that?
A. Because by keeping Sunday, they acknowledge the church’s power to ordain feasts, and to command them under sin; and by not keeping the rest [of the feasts] by her commanded, they again deny, in fact, the same power.
–Rev. Henry Tuberville, D.D. (R.C.), (1833), page 58.

In A Doctrinal Catechism,Q. Have you any other way of proving that the Church has power to institute festivals of precept?
A. Had she not such power, she could not have done that in which all modern religionists agree with her. She could not have substituted the observance of Sunday the first day of the week, for the observance of Saturday the seventh day, a change for which there is no Scriptural authority.
–Rev. Stephen Keenan, (1851), p. 174.

In the Augsburg Confession,They [the Catholics] allege the Sabbath changed into Sunday, the Lord’s day, contrary to the decalogue, as it appears; neither is there any example more boasted of than the changing of the Sabbath day. Great, they say, is the power and authority of the church, since it dispensed with one of the ten commandments.
—Art. 28.

There's more ... but I'll keep it short.

At least the catholic church is honest about it ... and agrees nowhere in His Word was the 7th day Sabbath ever changed by Jesus and the change has no scriptural authority.
 
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There's more ... but I'll keep it short.

At least the catholic church is honest about it ... and agrees nowhere in His Word was the 7th day Sabbath ever changed by Jesus and the change has no scriptural authority.[/QUOTE]
Thanks will give it a read if you have any more on the subject go ahead.
 
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The Day as a Sign

The authors of the New Testament scriptures make it clear, that the things of the Old Covenant are foreshadowing signs of the things of the New Covenant.

The things of the Old Covenant have their respective functions in the Old Covenant, additionally they are signs of the realities of the New Covenant.

An example would be the brass serpent, that Moses put on the wooden cross in order to heal the Israelites that had fallen sick. Later the apostles show us, that this was also a sign of what Jesus would accomplish (on the wood.)

And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.

The question would then be, towards what spiritual reality does the Sabbath day point us?

The Day as a Weekday

Here's what many of us don't get: Jesus didn't speak English. Did you know that in Jesus time the official business calendar featured a eight days week?

Did you know that not every Sabbath day corresponds to a Saturday?

If you equate Sabbath to Saturday, than right there I know that you don't know what you are talking about.

The Motive and my Personal Experience

Whenever this topic comes up, I question the motive of some of those that make a big deal of the weekday we are supposed to do, what?

This is just my experience. Sure, there are a lot of sincere inquiries. But there is also a lot of interpersonal mechanics of trying to control brethren or forging opportunities to look down on others, who keep the wrong day.

May personal experience is this: when somebody comes up with the rituals of the Old Covenant in any way, shape or form, the conversation stops the moment I bring up circumcision.

Which is all I have to know.
 
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Some say the Seventh day of rest was established at creation and made Holy, others say it was given to Israel and nothing to do with Christians. Some say it was changed to Sunday. What are your thoughts, hopefully opinions backed up by scripture on the subject?

The meaning of Rest - Walter Veith

Why did God command Sabbath rest? What kind of “rest” does the Sabbath symbolize? Is Sabbath-keeping legalism or is it something deeper? In Exodus 31:13, God calls the Sabbath a sign that acknowledges Him as the one who sanctifies us.

Does God’s command to keep the Sabbath apply to us today? Or was it for the Jews only? Is there a Christian Sabbath? Which day is it?

At the Council of Trent where the Roman church deliberated on what should be done to halt the Reformation and bring the churches back under its authority, discussion of the Sabbath became the winning stroke that sealed the fate of the Reformation. What happened there?

This lecture reviews the history of the seventh-day Sabbath from its introduction in Eden, to its observance by the Jews, by Christ and the apostles, and the early Christian church around the world, including in India, Africa, and Japan.

Why do Christians go to church on Sunday? How did the Christian church move from keeping the Sabbath to honoring the first day of the week in its place? Who authorized the change and why? And does it really matter, anyway, which day we keep?

This video is about 2 hours long and is packed with information that perhaps many are not aware of. It is very informative and he references sources used within it and of course scriptural references.

Walter Veith is a SDA ... was previously Catholic. Please watch all of it putting any pre-formed bias aside for a couple hours and watch the video in it's entirety. Lots of interesting historical/biblical information that is not exclusive to SDA teaching.

It is the best lecture I have found on the matter(s) and perhaps will provide a better
understanding regarding the 7th day Sabbath and addresses many questions that come up about it.

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Please do not comment unless the video is watch in it's entirety.

God Bless.
 
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