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Daniel's Timeline; an investigation of information given.

hiscosmicgoldfish

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I have done a study on the information posted on a video, on another thread. I have made note/bullet points, and written some details, as explanations. People say that you can’t work out these things. If someone said to me that Jesus is returning on such a date, I would say ‘show me your evidence’. With the information given in the video, the evidence is shown, in great detail, and to me it is very convincing. We all live within certain paradigms; what we know has in the main been taught to us. We know that water is H2O because we were taught that, most of us don’t go away and test the information, we accept it as being true.

1. Daniel 9:24 START 70 WEEKS GOD’S REST.

Daniel 9:24
24 "Seventy weeks are determined
For your people and for your holy city,
To finish the transgression,
To make an end of sins,
To make reconciliation for iniquity,
To bring in everlasting righteousness,
To seal up vision and prophecy,
And to anoint the Most Holy.

2. WEEK = SHABUWAH

3. SHABUWAH = PERIOD OF 7 DAYS/YEARS/FEAST OF WEEKS (SHAVUOT)

4. 70 SHAVUOTS ARE DETERMINED

5. 70 SHAVUOTS/YEARS ARE DETERMINED

6. WHAT IS THE STARTING POINT?

7. DANIEL 9:25

Daniel 9:25
25 "Know therefore and understand,
That from the going forth of the command
To restore and build Jerusalem
Until Messiah the Prince,
There shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks;
The street shall be built again, and the wall,
Even in troublesome times.

The theory is that in this case, information is given about the end times, relating to modern Israel. It probably has historic-Israel prophetic meaning as well, but we are now looking at the info as regards the end-times.

8. STARTING WITH RESTORATION COMMAND WILL BE 69 YEARS UNTIL LORD’S RETURN.

9. DANIEL 9:26 - 62 YEARS. + 7 YEAR PROPHETIC WEEK

Daniel 9:26
26 "And after the sixty-two weeks
Messiah shall be cut off, but not for Himself;
And the people of the prince who is to come
Shall destroy the city and the sanctuary.
The end of it shall be with a flood,
And till the end of the war desolations are determined.

In our scenario, the Messiah being cut off dosn't apply. The only applicable thing here is the wars and desolations determined. The rest of Daniel 9:26 must have historical significance.

10. SANTUARY DESTROYED, WAR, DESOLATIONS DURING THE 7 YEARS.

The sanctuary is not destroyed, that happened back in 70 AD. Wars and desolations occur during the final 7 years period.

11. DAN 9:27 CONFIRM COVENANT

Daniel 9:27
27 Then he shall confirm a covenant with many for one week;
But in the middle of the week
He shall bring an end to sacrifice and offering.
And on the wing of abominations shall be one who makes desolate,
Even until the consummation, which is determined,
Is poured out on the desolate."

Again, not applicable to our scenario, historical events, except for the one who makes desolate, that happens in the middle of the final 7 years.

12. MIDST OF THE WEEK, 3.5 YEAR PERIOD.

13. ABOMINATION SET UP, MID WEEK. WARS.

14. JUBILEE=50 YEARS (Lev.)

15. SABBATICAL SET = 1-6+1 YEARS

16. ACTS 3:20-21 GODS RESTITUTION, RETURN OF CHRIST

Acts 3:20-21
20 and that He may send Jesus Christ, who was preached to you before, 21 whom heaven must receive until the times of restoration of all things, which God has spoken by the mouth of all His holy prophets since the world began.

17. CREATION WEEK TYPE/ SIX DAY WAR 1967

The Sabbatical Set of Creation, 6 days, is reflected in the Sabbatical Set of the Six Day War.

18. 1967=JUBILEE YEAR

19. 1967-50 = 1917 END OF OTTOMAN RULE

Subtract 50 years from 1967 to derive the previous Jubilee year; 1917 end of the Ottoman rule of Jerusalem.

20. 1917-50=1857 EMANCIPATION OF JEWS IN AUSTRIA/HUNGARY

21. 1967+50=2017

Add 50 years to 1967 to derive the next Jubilee year; 2017.

22. 2017-70 YEARS = 1947 NOV 29 1947 UN VOTE TO RESTORE ISRAEL, FIG TREE NATION

Subtract 70 years (the final 70 years of Daniel) from 2017 and you find the date 1947, which was when the UN decided to create the modern State of Israel, the Fig Tree Nation, mentioned by Jesus. (the order for the restoration of Israel in modern times).

23. MATT 24. 32-34 THIS GENERATION (OURS) WILL NOT PASS (70 YEARS)

24. 1967+50=2017 1947+70=2017

Projecting forward a Jubilee period of 50 years, and Daniel's final 70 years and you land on 2017.

25. 1947+69 YEARS=2016 END OF TRIB.

26. 1947+62 YEARS + 7 YEARS 2010 (START OF TRIB) 2016 (END OF TRIB).

27. MIDST OF THE WEEK=2013

28. 2013 TRIB STARTS, MID WEEK...

29. DAN 12:11-12 1335 DAYS 2013 ALTAR-1335 DAYS BLESSED DAY

Daniel 12:11-12
11 "And from the time that the daily sacrifice is taken away, and the abomination of desolation is set up, there shall be one thousand two hundred and ninety days. 12 Blessed is he who waits, and comes to the one thousand three hundred and thirty-five days.

I was sceptical of Daniel, but I always knew that these day counts of 1290 days and 1335 days were significant and were not related to the times of Antiochus IV, but were end-times specific.

30. DAN 12 11-12 ALTAR 1290 DAYS TO END OF TRIB

Starting at the 'altar day' and projecting forward 1290 days brings us to the end of the tribulation. If there is no rapture, and I very much doubt there will be, then these day counts will be important, to know how long we have to wait until the return of the Lord.

This information was put there for a reason.

31. 1335 DAYS – 1290 DAYS = 45 DAYS.

This calculation gives us the number of days between the end of the trib, and the wedding feast; 45 days.

32. MATT 24:15-16 ABOMINATION SET UP

Matthew 24:15-16
The Great Tribulation
15 "Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place" (whoever reads, let him understand), 16 "then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.

33. MATT 24:20-21 FLIGHT NOT BE IN WINTER OR THE SABBATH

34. WINTER ENDS 21 MARCH (2013) START OF TRIB

35. REV 12: 16 WOMAN FLED TO WILDERNESS 1260 DAYS TO END OF TRIB

36. 1290 DAYS – 1260 DAYS = 30 DAYS

37. MARCH 21 FLOOD REV 12:15-16

38. REV 11:3-4 TWO WITNESSES 1260 DAYS MARCH 21-22 BEGIN

39. MATT 24:29-31 DARKNESS AFTER TRIB

Matthew 24:29-31
The Coming of the Son of Man
29 "Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light; the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken. 30 Then the sign of the Son of Man will appear in heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth will mourn, and they will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And He will send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they will gather together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.

The darkening relates the eclipses that occur at the end of the trib.

40. END OF TRIB TO WEDDING FEAST = 45 DAYS

41. Abomination, two horned lamb, counterfeit Christ, unacceptable image, will be present in God’s house, this starts the tribulation. Nisan 10 March 21 or later. Christ rode into Jerusalem on Nisan 10.

42. Nisan 10, not in winter, March 21 or later, not on Sabbath, before Passover, Daniel’s timeline, 2013.

43. Using a 3.5 years set, based on the wedding feast date, and projecting backwards 1305 days, to find the exact date, the middle of the 3.5 years.

44. 2013-2016 starting at the feast of tabernacles, on October 17 2016, projecting back 1305 days, = March 22 2013.

45. Feast of Trumpets, October 3 2016, falls within the 45 day period, after the tribulation. Also falls the Day of Atonement, Feast of Tabernacles – wedding feast. Day of the Lord = Feast of Trumpets Oct 3 2016.

46. Jerusalem March 2 2013 5.58 AM, sign over Jerusalem.

The constellation Virgo [Israel] will appear with the moon under her feet and the constellation Corona Borealis/The Crown over head. Along with this, Serpens [Satan] and Bootes/The Coming One [Messiah] will also be visible.

 
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47. Luke 12:54-56 discernment of times.

Luke 12:54-56
Discern the Time
54 Then He also said to the multitudes, "Whenever you see a cloud rising out of the west, immediately you say, ‘A shower is coming’; and so it is. 55 And when you see the south wind blow, you say, ‘There will be hot weather’; and there is. 56 Hypocrites! You can discern the face of the sky and of the earth, but how is it you do not discern this time?

We are to discern the times.

48. If the signs were not meant to be read, why did God give them? If we are not meant to understand them, then it would be considered idle words.

49. Matt 24:35-36 the angel sounds the trumpet, so the angel must know the day, Jesus was talking about the day when Heaven and Earth shall pass away, not his return, and the millennial year kingdom.

50. The days are cut short, for the sake of the elect. If there are no elect left, then there’d no point cutting the days short, so there must be elect remaining until the day of the Lord; not everyone is killed by the beast.

51. Proverbs 10:30 - the righteous shall never be removed, but the wicked shall not inherit the earth.

This suggests that there will be no rapture, as the righteous shall never be removed.

52. Solar eclipse on Sept 1 2016 Sept 16 Lunar eclipse. Another solar eclipse on Oct 2 2016. Just before the Day of the Lord on 3 October 2016.

53. Feast of Trumpets can fall on Mon, Tues, Thursday, Saturday. 48 hour period, falls on Mon-Tues = Mon 3 Oct 2016. Day of the Lord is on October 3 2016.

54. Rev 3:3

Revelation 3:3
3 Remember therefore how you have received and heard; hold fast and repent. Therefore if you will not watch, I will come upon you as a thief, and you will not know what hour I will come upon you.
This means that if you do watch, then Jesus will return at a time that you do know.

I saw this verse in Rev 3:10 a while ago, and at the time I thought it was revealed to me by the Holy Spirit, because I had confirmation of it when on the same day I saw Grant Jeffrey explaining the same verse, in terms of the rapture. As I dont agree on that interpretation, I think it is still significant, as it shows that the elect will somehow be protected by God during the tribulation, not removed from the earth, just protected.

Revelation 3:10
10 Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth.
There is also a verse in the gospels where Jesus advises us to pray that we will escape these tribulations, and at the same time Jesus prays to the Father that we be not removed from the earth; directly contradicting pre-trib rapture doctrine.
If these predictions examined here are correct, and that we are at the beginning of the great tribulation now 21 March 2016, then something major must happen, some world changing event.

http://www.waytozion.org/video/stream/timeline/timeline.html
 
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maybe a war, started by Obama; Israel attacks Iran, sparks off a major war. Russia might get involved as they are allied to Iran, so is China.
it's just a guess, but i suspect that Obama is up to no good.[/quote]His first trip to Israel since being the president; I'm with you on this one. Something smells.
 
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It seems to me that the Daniel timeline is complicated because Daniel is an old book, and is describing 3 separate times; the desecration of the Temple by Antiochus IV, which is the main theme of the book, and the destruction of the Temple by Titus and Vespasian, and then the latter-days events. So do we expect the events to unfold exactly the same each time? Jesus warned his own generation about a coming time of peril, when he advised people to flee Jerusalem, when armies surround Jerusalem. In the Matthew 24 account, Jesus draws people back to Daniel, in reference to the abomination, with the archetype being Antiochus IV. I think in the Matt 24 account, Jesus is specifically describing the latter days period.
I think that for the latter days, the book of Daniel is making use of predictive archetypes, of the antichrist, and the timeline itself works out exactly, but the details such as fleeing, abomination set up; that happened in the past, and is only reflected in these days; not an exact repetition of events. So we can gain some insight into the character of the antichrist, but not his specific activities.
I think the Daniel timeline is convincing, as the dates work backwards and forwards, and line up with feast days and eclipses.
 
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