Cyrus Scofield

just wondered if any amill CTs encounter the same dogmatism and aggression from dispensationalists i do regularly: no matter how hard you try, they will not move an inch.
the most unpleasant variety is the pretrib.
whew!

child of Jesus said:

just wondered if any amill CTs encounter the same dogmatism and aggression from dispensationalists i do regularly: no matter how hard you try, they will not move an inch.
the most unpleasant variety is the pretrib.
whew!

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yepper.

heymikey80 said:

yepper.

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hey mikey.
the xtian zionist/brit-isr angle is becoming remarkably sharper.
fascinating how they did it, really.
the 1,000 years olam haba and all.
nice to meet you.

[Armstrong]…believed Anglo-Israelism -- the doctrine that the Anglo-Saxons of the United States and Britain were the true descendants of the House of Israel, while the Jews descended from Israel's other division, the House of Judah -- provided the key to understanding the prophets. He concluded that instead of applying the House of Israel prophecies to the Jews, one should apply them to the United States and what was then called the British Commonwealth…” 45 Grace Communion International

A Little "Identity" Crisis~ British Israelism

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Breaking away from the fascinating teachings of The Scofield Reference Bible was one of the most difficult decisions of my entire life.

Even after doubts arose in my mind, it took some seven or eight years to relinquish the ready-made theological clothing I had worn since the day of my conversion.

For I was saved, at the age of sixteen, in a Baptist church where almost everyone carried a Scofield Bible.

My spiritual tutors knew the footnotes and headings placed in the Bible by C. I. Scofield as well as they knew the Bible itself. Indeed, the two had become almost synonymous in their minds even as they were destined to become in my own mind.

Even today it is difficult at times to clear my mind of some of Scofield's presuppositions when I study God's Word.

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But, try as I would, certain beliefs kept embarrassing me. For I could not find the verse and chapter to support my beliefs concerning national Israel.

I had been taught that the Jews would go back to Palestine, rebuild the Temple, reinstitute the blood sacrifices, serve as Christ's missionaries during an earthly millennium, and be involved in many other related events.

I was so determined to find scriptural support for these teachings that oftentimes I became angry with myself for being so lacking in Bible knowledge.

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I broke with Scofieldism grudgingly. He had been such a help in preparing a Sunday School lesson and, later, in "getting up a sermon." All one needed to do was to turn to the passage in mind. In most cases the headings and footnotes presented a ready outline, requiring very little study. Also, just about every Christian in my peer group seemed to agree that here was profound teaching.

Perhaps one of my greatest surprises came with the realization that followers of Scofield actually represented a comparatively small minority among Christians.

It was only their dogmatism, plus the fact that they were so vocal, which made them appear to be in the majority.

It was a comfort to learn that Scofield's "rediscovered truths," which he had learned at the feet of John Nelson Darby, a Plymouth Brethren, differed not only from most known commentaries, but from the great majority of the church fathers, and the reformers as well. I learned, too, that most of the critics of Scofieldism had, as I had, been devoted followers at one time.

Having come out of Scofieldism, I passed through at least three stages to arrive at my present position:

My first feeling was that, although many things my former hero taught were not so, the good points (and he has many of these) in his system outweighed the bad. From this stage continued study led me to believe that I must leave The Scofield Reference Bible alone completely, but that I should not make an issue of it with equally sincere Christians. Further study led me to the position which I now hold. That position is that Scofieldism is heresy, and that, since God has given me this light, I must seek in love to warn others of the household of faith against this subtle, intriguing heresy.

It has been some 14 years since my final break with Scofieldism.

Let me share with you some of the objections to this teaching as they are now formulated in my mind....

Why I left Scofieldism

If a dispensationalist brings up C.I. Scofield, I immediately point to his past. Hello, he's a convicted felon for forgery. Should you really be putting stock in a Bible that was written by someone convicted for FORGERY?!? He divorced his wife and then scammed his mother-in-law of her life savings. Of all the study Bibles out there, choosing the one written by someone who served jail time for forgery is probably not the wisest choice. He studied John Nelson Darby literally out of his jail cell.

DISPENSATIONAL THEOLOGY is a creation of Freemasonry and Judaism.
priming the xtian zionists for the GREAT HOAX: a literal 1,000 year Olam Haba

C. I. Scofield - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"saint" Scofield

Millennium Reign

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ANALYZING Cyrus I. Scofield and His Teaching

Scofield: The Man Behind The Myth

The Greatest Hoax | Cyrus Scofeld: Who Was He?

Samuel Untermyer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Bible Life Ministries - The Seven Dispensations.

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Brak said:

If a dispensationalist brings up C.I. Scofield, I immediately point to his past. Hello, he's a convicted felon for forgery. Should you really be putting stock in a Bible that was written by someone convicted for FORGERY?!? He divorced his wife and then scammed his mother-in-law of her life savings. Of all the study Bibles out there, choosing the one written by someone who served jail time for forgery is probably not the wisest choice. He studied John Nelson Darby literally out of his jail cell.

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hey brak...ya.
good post.
peeps should look a little further as well, to see who scofield's handlers were: then they'll get a glimpse of the agenda:
Samuel Untermyer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Brak said:

If a dispensationalist brings up C.I. Scofield, I immediately point to his past. Hello, he's a convicted felon for forgery. Should you really be putting stock in a Bible that was written by someone convicted for FORGERY?!? He divorced his wife and then scammed his mother-in-law of her life savings. Of all the study Bibles out there, choosing the one written by someone who served jail time for forgery is probably not the wisest choice. He studied John Nelson Darby literally out of his jail cell.

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Although I'm in no way trying to defend Scofield, I would like to know if these were before or after his conversion. What is the whole story? I quess you don't read Paul's letters because he was a murderer.

BrotherBob said:

Although I'm in no way trying to defend Scofield, I would like to know if these were before or after his conversion. What is the whole story? I quess you don't read Paul's letters because he was a murderer.

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hi bob.
the man's personal sins aren't my issue.
it's his ghastly work that needs looking into.
the usual suspects involved.

child of Jesus said:

hi bob.
the man's personal sins aren't my issue.
it's his ghastly work that needs looking into.
the usual suspects involved.

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I agree. How many of us would like to have our prechristian life brought up in our Christian life? I was brought up in this awful doctrine in the AOG, which I abandoned for its problems with common sense and logic in my early thirties.