Cruz and Sanders
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Well, in terms of sense, Sanders might make a little more sense than Trump, but he still falls victim to wearing the blinders of idealism on a handful of the issues.
In terms of Cruz, he might have a few random policy preferences that I find more palatable than Trumps, but for the most part, his policy positions are the same (if not more) damaging. He's just much more level headed in his delivery and demeanor so he seems "more reasonable" than Trump on the surface.
Cruz is still anti-science, buys into the myth of "trickle-down" supply side economics, want to "get rid of the IRS and payroll tax completely", wants more military expansion, and holds the same draconian views on immigration. His only redeeming qualities are that he supports states' rights on the topic of drug enforcement and that he opposes civil asset forfeiture. Aside from those things, he's just basically Donald Trump with decaf and a better hair stylist.
In terms of Cruz, he might have a few random policy preferences that I find more palatable than Trumps, but for the most part, his policy positions are the same (if not more) damaging. He's just much more level headed in his delivery and demeanor so he seems "more reasonable" than Trump on the surface.
Cruz is still anti-science, buys into the myth of "trickle-down" supply side economics, want to "get rid of the IRS and payroll tax completely", wants more military expansion, and holds the same draconian views on immigration. His only redeeming qualities are that he supports states' rights on the topic of drug enforcement and that he opposes civil asset forfeiture. Aside from those things, he's just basically Donald Trump with decaf and a better hair stylist.
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Being reasonable doesn't MEAN agreeing with our position. That is Trump's perspective.
My point is that Sanders and Cruz are reasonable. They are consistent. They each have a set of policies that fit together. BTW, they respect each other. Their discussions of healthcare and taxes have been very interesting.
If Trump had any consistent policies, we might compare them with Cruz. Trump has no suhcplicies, not even for a week (see DACA and healthcare).
I strongly agree with almost all the views of both of these senators. I agree with some of their ideas.
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If I were to choose based on policy, I would chose Trump over Cruz in a fast second. Cruz (and Pence) are far to the right and could have been much more effective in passing the Republican agenda. It is a tremendous advantage to me that Trump is politically incompetent. Much could have been passed under a Cruz presidency.
My point is that Sanders and Cruz are reasonable. They are consistent. They each have a set of policies that fit together. BTW, they respect each other. Their discussions of healthcare and taxes have been very interesting.
If Trump had any consistent policies, we might compare them with Cruz. Trump has no suhcplicies, not even for a week (see DACA and healthcare).
I strongly agree with almost all the views of both of these senators. I agree with some of their ideas.
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If I were to choose based on policy, I would chose Trump over Cruz in a fast second. Cruz (and Pence) are far to the right and could have been much more effective in passing the Republican agenda. It is a tremendous advantage to me that Trump is politically incompetent. Much could have been passed under a Cruz presidency.
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I wasn't purely looking at it with the "do they agree with me filter". There's things I disagree and agree with both of them on.
However, trying to implement policies that have been tried numerous times in the past (and failed) out of pure idealism "because this is what a member of my party has to claim to believe in" isn't a "reasonable" position to take.
Consistency isn't synonymous with reasonableness.
It's possible to be consistent in ones positions but still have those positions be unreasonable.
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And yet Trump was the winner every time - it's over - the campaign ended in November 2016. Read her book and then let's move on.
FYI it isn't looking any better for Democrats in 2018.
Maybe, just maybe people are missing something.
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What primary and/or election did either of them loose?
Keep it in context. It was a specific reply.
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I find myself in between but more Cruz than Sanders however I really don't like both ends.
How do you say someone is to principled, Cruz is unbending and so unable to compromise. Although I've seen him backtrack when it was politically necessary. He also loves all the attention, he objects just to get himself on TV.
Sanders is a 60s radical who has never had a real job. He has no idea what it means to pay employees or run a business. He's pure socialist/ communist which has been shown over and over again does not work. He's also a hypocrite, three homes?
I believe Trump represents most of America, they just want the country to work and their children to have a better life than they had. He won because Trump said Jobs, Jobs and more Jobs while Hillary said 'I'm going to shut down all the coal mines' ie I'm going to put even more people out of work. It's that simple!
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It does work, look at other first world countries. Socialist Policy paired with Capitalist ones work perfectly fine.
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The average starting salary for a coal mine worker is $60,000.
Shutting down all the coal mines also closes all the business which rely on those pay checks, the cafes with their waitress, the hardware stores and local car dealers. People move away and schools close leaving teachers without jobs. It's a domino effect.
The other problem is without coal there is no steel. It takes coal to make the coke and the coke to carbonize the iron turning into steel. If we shut down our coal mines then we shut down our steel mills putting more people out of work. We wont be able to rebuild those bridges without buying steel from China, won't be able to build new aircraft carriers and that is the long term plan.
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Other countries do not have 300,000,000 people. England has a population of only 53 million, California alone has 39 million. However England is not a purely socialist nation, yes they have a socialized healthcare system and affordable housing system for the poor, we darn near have the same thing with medicare etc. and welfare so to appoint we too have a form of socialism. We have as a society decided we will take care of the truly needy.
But what Sanders is talking about is pure socialism or out right communism, he is a communist. During the 70s, Sanders helped found the Liberty Union Party, which called for the nationalization of all US banks and the public takeover of all private utility companies. He honeymooned in Moscow for heavens sake.
Implemented as they wish you end up with Venezuela.
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