Critical Race Theory

[Erik Nelson]

FBI — Table 31

Small Towns (5,294 cities, under 10,000 population) are 7% of the population but 11% of arrests.

Conspiracy to incarcerate small town folk?

 

[rjs330]

So our "justice system" which was based on slavery at the time and blacks being 5/8th of a human being or whatever the fraction was, no voting rights, illegal race mixing, all legal in the justice system this country was founded upon.

Where did you ever come up with such a wrong idea? Let me guess, from CRT believers or perhaps the 1619 project?

 

[rjs330]

I'm saying the economy was based on slavery, both the labor and the trade.

You said the justice system was based on slavery and racism. Are you changing your mind?

 

[rjs330]

If we did what the Right too often seems to suggest, and simply ignore the legacy of slavery and racism in this country (or worse), it will just perpetuate extensive social problems, mistrust, and actually increase social disharmony.

You're going to have to support this. I haven't seen us on the right ever say we need to ignore the legacy of slavery.

 

[Ken-1122]

Prison labor.

Are you seriously trying to compare prison to slavery???
*Slaves do not get paid for the labor they do, prisoners do.
*Slaves will get beaten if they don't work hard enough; prisoners do not.
*Slaves do not have rights; prisoners do.
*Slaves cannot go on strike if they don't like their working conditions, prisoners can.

To compare prisoners with slavery is an insult to all who were forced to live under the atrocity of slavery.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

Are you seriously trying to compare prison to slavery???
*Slaves do not get paid for the labor they do, prisoners do.
*Slaves will get beaten if they don't work hard enough; prisoners do not.
*Slaves do not have rights; prisoners do.
*Slaves cannot go on strike if they don't like their working conditions, prisoners can.

To compare prisoners with slavery is an insult to all who were forced to live under the atrocity of slavery.

I agree. But think it important to add that racism has helped to get a larger percentage of blacks in the prison system than whites.

 

[Ken-1122]

So our "justice system" which was based on slavery at the time and blacks being 5/8th of a human being or whatever the fraction was, no voting rights, illegal race mixing, all legal in the justice system this country was founded upon.

What did the 3/5 compromise have to do with the Justice system in the USA?

 

[Pommer]

Are you seriously trying to compare prison to slavery???
*Slaves do not get paid for the labor they do, prisoners do.
*Slaves will get beaten if they don't work hard enough; prisoners do not.
*Slaves do not have rights; prisoners do.
*Slaves cannot go on strike if they don't like their working conditions, prisoners can.

To compare prisoners with slavery is an insult to all who were forced to live under the atrocity of slavery.

We’ve made slavery “humane”, whoop-dee-doo.

 

[rjs330]

Some did, most got o justice, especially in the early days of the country. Slaves had to access to courts, free blacks rarely got justice against a white landowning male citizen. Blacks did not have full citizenship. They were not considered 100% human. You know this. Oh I forgot the whole genocide of the indigenous people (Andrew Jackson "the only good indian is a dead indian")

There's so much here that is wrong it's hard to get it all. You know there were a lot of whites who didn't own land either. Slavery was a human condition of the entire planet. Are you aware the blacks in Africa didn't want to end slavery? It's interesting how the 20th century person wants to apply his modern notion of morality upon the older world. Slavery is as old as civilization. And America fought a war to end it. There was no genocide of the Indians. Those evil slave owners. Another example of how slavery existed in the old world. America had no genocidal policy.

 

[John Owen]

Since it was mentioned last night...

Anyone want to explain the merits and demerits of this thing?

I know what Trump said...

Why did he say it?

This video is powerful, intellectual and biblical. It convinced me that CRT is Marxist.

 

[Akita Suggagaki]

This video is powerful, intellectual and biblical. It convinced me that CRT is Marxist.

Do you also think teaching history at all is Marxist? Or what other topics do you think should be avoided besides slavery?

 

[John Owen]

Do you also think teaching history at all is Marxist? Or what other topics do you think should be avoided besides slavery?

Your questions do not follow my post.

 

[Pommer]

Your questions do not follow my post.

In other words watch the 57 minute video then agree with me?
How’s about a synopsis?

 

[rjs330]

Chattel slavery was born where a slave was a slave for life and so were their children in perpetuity/ Before that, a slave was a slave for a predetermined amount of time. While the Constitution guarantees liberty for whites, it eliminated all liberty for blacks. God bless America.

Chattle slavery existed long before you claim. And slaves were always a slave for life in this way. Indentured servitude was not the same thing as you say. However much of the time they did end up in servitude for their whole life because their master did not set them free and or created circumstances where they couldn't.

The Constitution said nothing about whites or blacks. And you are once again falling into the trap of trying to apply modern morality to a world wide system that existed for thousands of years as if what we understand to today is relevant to what they understood at the time. Should the Indians have known that their enslavement of other Indians was abhorrent? What about scalping? Do you excoriate all societies equally? Where is your disgust for the African tribes who enslaved each other and also sold this own people out to slavery. In fact who didn't want slavery to end. Where is your anger at the white slavery of Africa?

Or is it only America you care about? That somehow America only should have abided by 20th century moralism?

 

[rjs330]

Poor white people are ignored by their own well off people. Poor white people often say "I might be poor but at least I'm not black" Poor whites are some of the most racist because they compete with blacks for employment and feel cheated when they lose out to someone black.

You prove the point that this country is not systemically racist. If it were then there wouldn't be so many poor white people. I have difficulty believing that you are completely ignorant of the fact that poor blacks are extremely racist against poor whites because they compete with them for jobs.

 

[rjs330]

Yes but you seem to believe that the past has to effect on the present and everything is hunky-dory now. Blacks are the only ones responsible for the poverty that is so prevalent all over the country.

If they are not, who is?

 

[John Owen]

In other words watch the 57 minute video then agree with me?
How’s about a synopsis?

CRT divides the country into Oppressed and Oppressor and says we must take the side of the Oppressed (i.e. Blacks), and overthrow the Oppressors (Whites, especially those in power).

 

[Ken-1122]

We’ve made slavery “humane”, whoop-dee-doo.

That's like saying we've managed to murder people without killing them! Slavery is when a person is owned by another. Prisoners are not owned by anybody; they are not slaves.

 

[rjs330]

It's not about judging people by their skin but recognizing that a lot of people do and those people are in control of big businesses.

So once again you show how racism is against white people. By accusing a lot of those in big business are a bunch of racists holding onto white privilege and keeping the black man down. This IS a key tenent of CRT.

Blaming people of being racist simply because they are white and in management.

 

[rjs330]

They just wanna talk about race.
You seem to think that that should never happen if white people are held to be culpable in any way.
Good thing it’s not up to you.
Good day.

What exactly should we be held culpable for? And how do you think this so called culpability be addressed? Who exactly is culpable?