Creationists dug out a living dinosaur and were able to publish it in a leading magazine?!

[lasthero]

But the survival of other things over alleged "Billions of years" is clear sign of correctness of YE Creationism.

Not really.

 

[juvenissun]

It makes the incorrect assumption that it’s impossible for cells to survive that long.

Why is this not correct?

 

[juvenissun]

It also makes the assumption that the possibility of such a late survival of dinosaurs somehow invalidates the geology of an old Earth.

This case only says that Dino is young. It does not say the earth is not old. Get your logic straight.

 

[lasthero]

Why is this not correct?

There's no reason to make such an assumption, and the paper shows how such cells could endure over a long amount of time.

This case only says that Dino is young. It does not say the earth is not old. Get your logic straight.

You're right, even if the dinosaur was young, that doesn't mean the Earth isn't old.

However, when this research is cited by creationists, that is typically the argument they try to pass off.

 

[Speedwell]

This case only says that Dino is young. It does not say the earth is not old. Get your logic straight.

But many creationists do say so, so it's not my logic that isn't straight.

 

[juvenissun]

There's no reason to make such an assumption, and the paper shows how such cells could endure over a long amount of time.

There is EVERY reason to argue the protein is not likely to be preserved because 99.999...% of known cases are NOT. In this case, only ONE exception would be enough to negate the old age.

If you care, we can look into the details of those suggested conditions of preservation. They can not resist the elements for 10E8 years.

 

[juvenissun]

But many creationists do say so, so it's not my logic that isn't straight.

They say Dinos are recent. That is shocking enough.

 

[essentialsaltes]

They say Dinos are recent. That is shocking enough.

It is not shocking that fish are both very old and recent.

 

[juvenissun]

It is not shocking that fish are both very old and recent.

It will be shocking if we found living cell in old fish.

 

[essentialsaltes]

It will be shocking if we found living cell in old fish.

I suppose, but that has nothing to do with reality.

 

[Steve Petersen]

CC371: Tyrannosaurus blood


CC371.1: Tyrannosaurus tissues from bone

 

[lasthero]

There is EVERY reason to argue the protein is not likely to be preserved because 99.999...% of known cases are NOT. In this case, only ONE exception would be enough to negate the old age.

If you care, we can look into the details of those suggested conditions of preservation. They can not resist the elements for 10E8 years.

The people who actually made the find and studied it disagree. I’m inclined to go with them.

 

[juvenissun]

I suppose, but that has nothing to do with reality.

Then may be the living cell in the Dino discovered is not real either.

 

[juvenissun]

The people who actually made the find and studied it disagree. I’m inclined to go with them.

I will go with my understanding, not with their speculative words.

 

[lasthero]

I will go with my understanding, not with their speculative words.

You didn’t read the paper, did you?

 

[essentialsaltes]

Then may be the living cell in the Dino discovered is not real either.

What living cell found in what dinosaur? This happened only in fantasy, not reality. The study describes nonliving "cell-like microstructures".

 

[juvenissun]

You didn’t read the paper, did you?

As I said, do you care to discuss it?

 

[juvenissun]

What living cell found in what dinosaur? This happened only in fantasy, not reality. The study describes nonliving "cell-like microstructures".

OK, my exaggeration. But I think it is more than that. Coal is loaded with cell-like structure, and that is not an issue.

 

[lasthero]

As I said, do you care to discuss it?

I don’t see much point. You clearly don’t understand it.

 

[essentialsaltes]

OK, my exaggeration. But I think it is more than that. Coal is loaded with cell-like structure, and that is not an issue.

Of course not. Like dinosaur remnants, coal is not alive. However both were living things, so we are not surprised that they were once made of living cells.