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Covid vaccines have already saved over 10,000 lives in the U.K.

Discussion in 'General Physical Health' started by Halbhh, Apr 16, 2021.

  1. Halbhh

    Halbhh Everything You say is Life to me Supporter

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    In the United States, with a population of 330 million, over 8,000 die in an average day (from various causes).

    With over 127 million Americans already having been Covid vaccinated with at least one dose, many of them elderly or those with poor health....no doubt many of them will die anyway from other causes like ordinary heart attacks, cancer and so on, and even hundreds in any week -- but, doing what you can to improve your odds is often the best thing.

    Especially for those not already on the border of death.

    It's like quitting smoking -- you'd do it
    because you want to improve your odds of living longer.

    Many people aren't ready to go, and it's good if they can have extra years of life, for very many, who really need them, need that time.


    Covid vaccines have saved over 10,000 lives [in the U.K.], 'fantastic' data shows

    Public Health England figures show jabs have prevented thousands of deaths in those aged 60 and above across country so far

    More than 10,000 lives have been saved by the NHS Covid vaccination programme, according to official data hailed as "fantastic" news on Thursday night.

    New analysis from Public Health England (PHE) shows the jabs have so far prevented 10,400 deaths in those aged 60 and above across the country.

    Health officials said the figure was likely to underestimate the value of the vaccines because they would protect against future surges as well as reducing transmission of the virus.
    Covid vaccines have saved over 10,000 lives, 'fantastic' data shows

     
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  2. Francis Drake

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    Regarding Covid or vaccination, I strongly advise you not to believe a thing you read from Public Health England, the UK Office of National Statistics, or the National Health Service, or the UK Government.
    They are all utterly despicable and have lied and propagandised their way through the last year.
     
  3. Halbhh

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    Why not then ask your own fellow Christians, both in person, and online -- but not only those that have a political leaning you like.

    Be sure to also ask at least some older Christians over age 65, and some over 55, those that were allowed to get the vaccine early. It's only very recently that younger people can get it in many places.

    I know quite a few that have gotten the vaccine -- they are all just fine, and none had any adverse effects except the usual soreness and such listed as the normal reactions.


     
  4. Francis Drake

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    I have already asked my fellow Christians over here, and none of them will take the vaccine because they know that the whole pandemic was pre-planned by globalists with a very clear NWO agenda.
    And being 70, I am in the so called at risk group.

    Like millions of others around the world, you are being driven like sheep using a well planned and deliberate campaign of fear mongering, along with mass distorting of data.

    There are far better and much more successful ways of dealing with this virus, other than mass vaccination. Unfortunately various governments have done their damnedest to ban and make these successful treatments illegal.

    You really should do a little research before continuing down this route.
     
  5. Halbhh

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    I myself am not naive or poorly informed, but have read in the health news and alternative health site also for decades.

    Every older person at my church I've asked has said yes they have gotten the vaccine.

    Honestly Francis, it seems to me you'd want to consider very carefully whether:
    'you are being driven like sheep using a well planned and deliberate campaign of fear mongering'.

    It's a known fact that Russia has been intentionally promoting disinformation into the U.S. about vaccination:

    U.S. says Russian-backed outlets spread COVID-19 vaccine 'disinformation'
    By Simon Lewis

    2 MIN READ

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States has identified three online publications directed by Russia’s intelligence services that it says are seeking to undermine COVID-19 vaccines produced by Pfizer and Moderna, a State Department spokeswoman said on Sunday.

    U.S. says Russian-backed outlets spread COVID-19 vaccine 'disinformation'

    Thanks, Francis for reminding me that this isn't necessarily known by everyone!

    I will post it.
     
  6. Francis Drake

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    You truly are hilarious if you think it's the Russians, you've been listening to Hillary Clinton again.

    No, I saw what Bill Gates said, out of his own mouth and years in advance about a Corona virus pandemic coming from China.

    I read the Rockefeller Foundation over 10 years ago telling everybody there would be a Coronavirus pandemic coming out of China.

    I watched Agenda 201 from Oct2019 where the NWO elites ran a play book scenario of a CoronaVirus pandemic coming from China.

    I read what the WHO said about putting Covid19 on death certificates, designed so obviously to boost the figures.

    I read how they changed the UK law so Doctors could issue Covid death certificates without ever seeing the patient.

    I listened to the inventor the PCR test, Kory Mullis, who got a Nobel Prize for his work, stating categorically that PCR was a lab tool AND SHOULD NEVER BE USED TO TEST PEOPLE FOR VIRUSES BECAUSE IT WAS FAR TOO INACCURATE!

    I read the reports on the PCR test which proved it was giving around 95% false positives.

    I read how people who died from any cause, including road accidents or suicide, if they'd registered positive on a PCR test in the last 3 months, always got registered as a Covid death.

    I saw how the UK has zero, yes zero Flu deaths last winter when some years we have over 28,000.

    Don't you worry though, stick your head back down that hole and everything will be alright.
     
  7. Halbhh

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    Francis, no idea or belief about the world or policies or Russian ploys really matters in the end.

    Not in the end....

    You will only be fine in the only way that ultimately matters if you truly believe in Christ Jesus, and follow Him, keeping His teachings/ words, praying the prayer He gave us to pray each day to be delivered from evil.

    Even if you die in a month or 3, a year or 5, whenever that comes, if you have real faith in Jesus Christ, you'll go to Life.

    ( but if you (or whomever reads this, anyone) don't yet have true faith, total belief, please seek Jesus Christ the only Savior through hearing His words, the gospel, and seek the Lord God with all of your heart)
     
  8. Francis Drake

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    You sound like a typical evangelist on autopilot, pulling out the same reply to everyone and any situation.
    You could have slotted that comment into any position on virtually every thread on the forum at any time, but what on earth it has to do with the conversation so far is beyond me.
    BTW if you look at my posts, you will see you are literally preaching to the converted.
     
  9. Halbhh

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    When someone quotes to me a bible verse or the gospel, I don't usually say something against their good effort like
    'you are wasting your time' or
    'you are always repeating yourself' or
    'you are preaching to the converted'.

    No, I don't say those, or not often (and I hope not in the last year or 2)

    If I do say something about hearing what I already know, already believe, then when I'm in the right place, walking in the Spirit, I can say something like:

    "Amen"
    or
    "praise the Lord"
    or
    "hallelujah!"

    Or I often click on the Agree button.

    And I'm sincerely glad they are preaching the gospel, or bringing up another valuable verse.

    Why? Because God is real, and all Christ says applies to us, all the time.
     
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  12. Halbhh

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    When you hear a conspiracy theory on one side, and thousands of doctors on the other side.... At least wonder if the doctors might be mostly telling the truth, as a possibility, and then go and ask your own doctor (and I don't mean Dr. Mercola, but an actual doctor that can help in in actual medical need in person) -- ask at least, instead of making a blanket accusation against thousands of doctors.
     
  13. Francis Drake

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    Did you even bother to watch the video?
    Doesn't what he said register in one little bit of your brain, or more to the point, your conscience?
    And you have the cheek to accuse me of making accusations against thousands of doctors.

    If this pandemic is perfectly genuine, why are all the governments and all the media constantly shutting down and deleting all the professionals who have a different point of view?

    Why have governments interfered with the medical treatment of Covid patients to ban access to Hydroxychloroquine and other proven life saving treatments.

    Since when have politicians had the power to control what medicine doctors prescribe?

    But here's a different 50.000 or so doctors, scientists and professionals who totally deny what the governments are doing in this so called pandemic.-
    Great Barrington Declaration (gbdeclaration.org)
     
  14. Joyous Song

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    I 59 turning 60 this year. I got my first vaccine and had a lot of reactions through exercise has helped me recover faster. Also I read those side effects I faced were a sign of s strong immune system which makes sense, my last blood tests said the same.

    So not having a strong reaction maybe less good. Yet exercise can ease the side effects because it moves the process along making them more effective.

    And age is just a number. How we age matters for more. Getting vaccines is simply common sense.
     
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