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Covid Vaccine

Discussion in 'Requests for Christian Advice' started by speciala, Jan 5, 2021.

  1. speciala

    speciala New Member

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    Today I was listening to a local Christian station and they mentioned that two of the vaccines for covid were made without the help of aborted fetal cells, but one of the vaccines was manufactured with the aid of aborted fetuses. Does anyone know which is which?
     
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  2. Greengardener

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    I can't say for sure, but I received literature from a company I'm familiar with who is offering the vaccine for their front-line workers that said no fetal cells were used in Moderna or Pfiser vaccine production, but in a quick internet search, other internet sources say that TESTING was done using fetal cell cultures.

    You've asked a good question and I'd suggest that you not stop with any of our comments since I'm not sure any of us can tell you anything with absolute certainty. Might be wise to continue to research it until your heart is satisfied.
     
  3. Richard T

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    Astra Zeneca is the one with the ties to aborted cells. Those cells though are from the 1960s and reproduced for testing over the years. Moderna and Pfizer avoided using aborted cells and their vaccines are better anyway.
     
  4. DiscipleHeLovesToo

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    only God and the pharma corporations know (i don't think that you can depend on what the pharma corporations say) - seek God's leading by following peace

    but put your trust only in the integrity of God's word (the Lord's vaccine):

    (Psa 91:1) He that dwelleth in the secret place of the most High shall abide under the shadow of the Almighty.
    (Psa 91:2) I will say of the LORD, He is my refuge and my fortress: my God; in him will I trust.
    (Psa 91:3) Surely he shall deliver thee from the snare of the fowler, and from the noisome pestilence.
    (Psa 91:4) He shall cover thee with his feathers, and under his wings shalt thou trust: his truth shall be thy shield and buckler.
    (Psa 91:5) Thou shalt not be afraid for the terror by night; nor for the arrow that flieth by day;
    (Psa 91:6) Nor for the pestilence that walketh in darkness; nor for the destruction that wasteth at noonday.
    (Psa 91:7) A thousand shall fall at thy side, and ten thousand at thy right hand; but it shall not come nigh thee.
    (Psa 91:8) Only with thine eyes shalt thou behold and see the reward of the wicked.
    (Psa 91:9) Because thou hast made the LORD, which is my refuge, even the most High, thy habitation;
    (Psa 91:10) There shall no evil befall thee, neither shall any plague come nigh thy dwelling.

    (Psa 91:11) For he shall give his angels charge over thee, to keep thee in all thy ways.
    (Psa 91:12) They shall bear thee up in their hands, lest thou dash thy foot against a stone.
    (Psa 91:13) Thou shalt tread upon the lion and adder: the young lion and the dragon shalt thou trample under feet.
    (Psa 91:14) Because he hath set his love upon me, therefore will I deliver him: I will set him on high, because he hath known my name.
    (Psa 91:15) He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.
    (Psa 91:16) With long life will I satisfy him, and shew him my salvation.


    (Pro 3:1) My son, forget not my law; but let thine heart keep my commandments:
    (Pro 3:2) For length of days, and long life, and peace, shall they add to thee.
    (Pro 3:3) Let not mercy and truth forsake thee: bind them about thy neck; write them upon the table of thine heart:
    (Pro 3:4) So shalt thou find favour and good understanding in the sight of God and man.
    (Pro 3:5) Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
    (Pro 3:6) In all thy ways acknowledge him, and he shall direct thy paths.
    (Pro 3:7) Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and depart from evil.
    (Pro 3:8)
    It shall be health to thy navel, and marrow to thy bones.

    (Act 28:23) And when they had appointed him a day, there came many to him into his lodging; to whom he expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Moses, and out of the prophets, from morning till evening.
    (Act 28:24) And some believed the things which were spoken, and some believed not.
    (Act 28:25) And when they agreed not among themselves, they departed, after that Paul had spoken one word, Well spake the Holy Ghost by Esaias the prophet unto our fathers,
    (Act 28:26) Saying, Go unto this people, and say, Hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and not perceive:
    (Act 28:27) For the heart of this people is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes have they closed; lest they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them.
     
  5. Greengardener

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    Great opinion and I don't doubt you. I also had heard that the AZ vaccine was more closely tied with fetal cell lines, and seems it was a different cell culture from what our US vaccines like MMR, VAR, IPOL and HEPA are manufactured using, and one for which they've "lost" the documentation regarding the source. Richard T, would you happen to have objective references that would be handy here, for both the OP and for others who read it?
     
  6. longwait

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    Go to healthimpactnews.com
     
    Last edited: Jan 6, 2021
  7. Richard T

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    Sorry I am slow to respond. This looks like a good source. Human Cell Strains in Vaccine Development | History of Vaccines
    It has a list of two fetal cell groups that are used for the following.
    "The vaccines below were developed using either the WI-38 or the MRC-5 cell strains.

    • Hepatitis A vaccines [VAQTA/Merck, Havrix/GlaxoSmithKline, and part of Twinrix/GlaxoSmithKline]
    • Rubella vaccine [MERUVAX II/Merck, part of MMR II/Merck, and ProQuad/Merck]
    • Varicella (chickenpox) vaccine [Varivax/Merck, and part of ProQuad/Merck]
    • Zoster (shingles) vaccine [Zostavax/Merck]
    • Adenovirus Type 4 and Type 7 oral vaccine [Barr Labs] *
    • Rabies vaccine [IMOVAX/Sanofi Pasteur] *"
     
  8. Heavenhome

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    Last year someone on the forum posted a Covid compare list that had ethically and non ethically vaccines.
    I downloaded it but don't know how to post but looking at it again it seems the Pfizer one is good, but AstraZeneca and Modern a was not.
    I will try to find the forum listing and get back to you with it.
     
  9. Heavenhome

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    OK I found the thread, it had been moved into the Conspiracy theories thread because the OP Heading was "Covid19 Vaccine: They've killed God"
    So its in the Leisure and Society part of the forums.
    It is post number no:4.
    The person had replied to the OP and suggested the link that is there for factual information on the Covid vaccines.

    I hope that helps.
    Its a pity its buried there because its very helpful.
    I'm sure someone reading this who is more capable than me could possibly move it to where others can see it.
    That would be great:oldthumbsup:
     
  10. longwait

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    Hi! I just wanted to inform you that Pfizer is not good either. Please check healthimpactnews.com
    53 Dead in Gibraltar in 10 Days After Experimental Pfizer mRNA COVID Injections Started
     
  11. Heavenhome

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    Thank you for that.
     
  12. Heavenhome

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    I don't know of the actual safety of the vaccines but was speaking of the ones named "ethically" produced.
    Thank you for the information.
    It also seems that the very frail elderly and those in the latter times of their life will be very much at risk from any of the vaccines because their immune systems are weak.
    Its very sad, because they are the most vulnerable.
     
  13. longwait

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    Yeah, I didn't know about these vaccines either. Thanks to a few bravehearts I got informed about it. The truth is hidden from the rest of us. One doctor lost his job exposing this. He said he is willing to go to jail for it. There are preventives you can take against covid19.
     
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