Covid shows racism by MORE blacks being treated by hospitals

[Quartermaine]

Asking you to prove racism isn't "defending" or "deflecting" it.

but dismissing racism as some sort of imaginary monster under the bed is.

Ok...wealth disparities, which include home ownership, income, savings, etc.

When I said most disparities....I meant most.

are you pretending that wealth disparities aren't tied to education, employment opportunities and pay disparities?

I didn't dismiss racism. Your problem is that you believe any accusation of racism proves racism. I believe that racism occurs when there's actual evidence of it.

like the evince the op-ed you linked to describes?

 

[Belk]

No...they blame that on racism too...

The tobacco industry has been destroying Black lives for centuries, it's time it faced a reckoning for it

Honestly, when I said that some people blame everything on racism....did you think I was making that up? Exaggerating?

Yes. I still do.

 

[Mayzoo]

New dashboard highlights COVID-19 disparities by race, ethnicity

"Data shows that Black and Hispanic/Latinx populations are over-represented among COVID-19 cases, hospitalizations, and deaths compared to White Wisconsinites. Hispanic or Latinx Wisconsinites have roughly 2.4 times greater case rates, while Black Wisconsinites have more than three times greater hospitalization rates, and over double the death rate.

Health officials say the disparities could be caused by systemic racism, and socioeconomic differences across communities."
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There you have it, folks! If blacks didn't get treated as often for getting Covid as whites do, it's called systematic racism. But now we see that they're getting 3 times as much treatment, that is also called systematic racism.
What's the solution? Should we treat less of them in hospitals so they won't be "over-represented"???

It really is easier to make fun of a serious issue than to attempt to solve it. Not everyone is suited to solving complex issues either. Making fun of an issue we do not how to resolve is a self-defense mechanism many use. It releases the internal tension caused by the internal conflict we feel over not being to resolve a problem. We know we should solve this problem, but we do not know how to begin, so it is easier to pretend the issue does not exist and make fun of others who are choosing a more productive approach.

Rest assured, lots of people who have a temperament and patience for solving complicated issues are working on a resolution. Or as the generations pass, time and education will continue to greatly minimize racism. We have made progress in the last two generations, and I expect more will be made as time ticks on. This is the slower route, but it is at least progress as opposed to ignoring the issue.

 

[Ana the Ist]

That's nice, but my post wasn't about treatments for a disease. Try again.

It's about outcomes of a disease. That's what they're blaming on racism....outcomes.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Yes. I still do.

I wish I was Belk.

 

[Quartermaine]

It's about outcomes of a disease. That's what they're blaming on racism....outcomes.

lack of interest and investment in treatments isn't an disease outcome.

 

[KCfromNC]

It's about outcomes of a disease. That's what they're blaming on racism....outcomes.

You'll have to take it up with "them", I guess. Any chance of getting back to what I actually wrote? The question I was answering was "Name one disparity between blacks and whites in the US where blacks have a worse outcome that's not caused by racism".

Now that I have, you're trying to change the subject. Seems quite suspicious.

 

[Belk]

I wish I was Belk.

It is pretty awesome I have to admit.

 

[renniks]

It's probably because blacks live in the city more often so are in closer contact with others, statistically. Not sure how this relates to racism?

 

[rambot]

It's probably because blacks live in the city more often so are in closer contact with others, statistically. Not sure how this relates to racism?

Not sure how this guess has convinced you.

 

[Triumvirate]

Christ:
"Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, cast out demons. You received without paying; give without pay."

Today:
"Eh, screw it, make fun of the sick if it means you can own the libs"

 

[rambot]

Christ:
"Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, cast out demons. You received without paying; give without pay."

Today:
"Eh, screw it, make fun of the sick if it means you can own the libs"

Everything is on the table ...so long as u can own the libs.

 

[Triumvirate]

Everything is on the table ...so long as u can own the libs.

"Own the libs. This is the first and greatest commandment"

 

[98cwitr]

Where I live, people in a certain part of town, mostly Latino, were the hardest hit . They were the people going to work everyday in unsafe conditions while many of us were able to work from home. My roommate works at a hospital and she says the people coming in with COVID are very disproportionately Latino and black, and mostly people working low wage jobs or the relatives of those people.

Were they not wearing masks at work?

 

[Sparagmos]

Early on, before the governor’s mask mandate, likely not. And certainly they weren’t able to socially distance at work. Low wage workers also are less likely to be able to stay home when they have symptoms. Look at what happened in meat processing plants.

 

[Aldebaran]

K

In your OP, you failed to consider the obvious (to me, anyways) possibility that minorities are suffering severe consequences of the disease at disproportionate rates. If you look at the dashboard, that certainly seems to be borne out by the fact that, as a share of the total population, blacks are also about 2.5x more likely to die from the disease as whites.

Why those disproportionate rates? It could be several things. It could be poverty and lack of access to good medical care. It could be the types of jobs held by certain groups. It could be the dependence on public transportation. It could be elevated stress levels from living in dysfunctional neighborhoods.

And yet they still aren't being denied the medical care, thus the 3x hospitalizations.
The old story was that systematic racism denies those people the same healthcare. Now the facts prove otherwise.

 

[Aldebaran]

This post demonstrates poor reading comprehension.

The issue is not that so many of them are "getting treated in hospital". No, they are suggesting that systemic racism could be a reason why blacks are disproportionately hit HARDER by the disease. It's not about how many in the hospital.

Then Covid 19 is the one that's being racist. Maybe you guys should try "cancelling" the virus, or maybe riot in the street against it, or write a blog about how you hate Covid 19. But quit using it as a way to justify calling the entire country "systematically racist".

 

[Aldebaran]

Christ:
"Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, cast out demons. You received without paying; give without pay."

Today:
"Eh, screw it, make fun of the sick if it means you can own the libs"

If you think pointing out that black people (the sick, in your post) are getting 3x as much treatment as whites is "making fun" of them, then your reading comprehension needs some work.
At least I'm not using the deaths of 220,000+ people as political fodder each night.

 

[Triumvirate]

If you think pointing out that black people (the sick, in your post) are getting 3x as much treatment as whites is "making fun" of them, then your reading comprehension needs some work.
At least I'm not using the deaths of 220,000+ people as political fodder each night.

Whatever you need to tell yourself mate, it's an ignorant joke at their expense.

 

[Aldebaran]

Whatever you need to tell yourself mate, it's an ignorant joke at their expense.

You mean the other 2x just got discharged from the hospital while still sick?