Covid-19 natural immunity compared to vaccine-induced immunity: The definitive summary

[JohnEmmett]

I never said it was a conspiracy


I merely said there is a bias

 

[GOD Shines Forth!]

In short, you need to corrupt several million doctors, nurses, hospital staff, pubic health officials, reporters, EMTs, etc. all at once - or else assume they have always been corrupt. That is a classic big time conspiracy theory.

No. You only have to corrupt the highest-ups, who are congenitally bent towards saving position and power (they scratched and clawed to get there, by golly!). From there edicts are sent down to the "several million" as a fait accompli. Get on board, underling, or find a new job.

We've seen how effective that is. Only a few have the nerve to stand their ground.

 

[JohnEmmett]

the only conspiracy I know of is blind faith in science


which is the reason given for not listening to dissenting voices

 

[RDKirk]

No. You only have to corrupt the highest-ups, who are congenitally bent towards saving position and power (they scratched and clawed to get there, by golly!). From there edicts are sent down to the "several million" as a fait accompli. Get on board, underling, or find a new job.

We've seen how effective that is. Only a few have the nerve to stand their ground.

The world medical community is not a single hierarchy.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

people are speaking about adverse reactions

People are also speaking about the CIA plot to assassinate JFK and area 51. In today's world of the Internet, you can find people speaking about all sorts of things.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

I never said it was a conspiracy


I merely said there is a bias

Your claim that officials are suppressing reports of adverse reactions requires the conspiracy I described. There is no way it could happen unless you assume that conspiracy.

 

[JohnEmmett]

Your claim that officials are suppressing reports of adverse reactions requires the conspiracy I described. There is no way it could happen unless you assume that conspiracy.

what would you call wanting the vaccine to be effective


such that you do not say anything negative


because that would dissuade people from the vaccine!

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[LeafByNiggle]

No. You only have to corrupt the highest-ups, who are congenitally bent towards saving position and power (they scratched and clawed to get there, by golly!). From there edicts are sent down to the "several million" as a fait accompli. Get on board, underling, or find a new job.

We've seen how effective that is. Only a few have the nerve to stand their ground.

That's just as unbelievable the conspiracy theory I described. As RDKirk said, the medical community is not a single hierarchy. There is no "chain of command" whereby someone at the top could command such a gross abandonment of the Hippocratic Oath. The structure you imagine just does not exist.

 

[LeafByNiggle]

what would you call wanting the vaccine to be effective
such that you do not say anything negative
because that would dissuade people from the vaccine!
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I would call that a gross abandonment of the Hippocratic Oath and a corruption of all the individual doctors at once, not to mention scientific integrity. Fantastical. In other words, it is highly unlikely to happen.

 

[JohnEmmett]

I would call that a gross abandonment of the Hippocratic Oath and a corruption of all the individual doctors at once, not to mention scientific integrity. Fantastical.

K

 

[RDKirk]

what would you call wanting the vaccine to be effective


such that you do not say anything negative


because that would dissuade people from the vaccine!

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You are presuming the average caregiver is betting on that particular horse. Remember that they're on the front lines...they have the least reason of all to champion an ineffective vaccine.

 

[JohnEmmett]

they're on the front lines… they have the least reason of all to champion an ineffective vaccine.

you seem to think everything is perfect

 

[RDKirk]

you seem to think everything is perfect

Apparently you do. At least you think the conspiracy is perfect.

I believe in the imperfection of any effort to conceal an ineffective drug on such a mass scale, particularly when there are competitor drug companies and competitor nations that would love to expose it.

 

[JohnEmmett]

I believe in the imperfection of any effort to conceal an ineffective drug on such a mass scale,

I don't think it's concealed so much as difficult to see

 

[GOD Shines Forth!]

As RDKirk said, the medical community is not a single hierarchy. There is no "chain of command" whereby someone at the top could command such a gross abandonment of the Hippocratic Oath.

Yet they are all in lockstep and on the same page ALL AROUND THE WORLD. Not just on medicine but on a host of other topics, welcoming in certain things and shutting out others. No conspiracy there, just a massive coincidence!

 

[GOD Shines Forth!]

The world medical community is not a single hierarchy.

And yet (my reply to another poster who quoted you)...

...they are all in lockstep and on the same page ALL AROUND THE WORLD. Not just on medicine but on a host of other topics, welcoming in certain things and shutting out others. No conspiracy there, just a massive coincidence!

 

[JohnEmmett]

Yet they are all in lockstep and on the same page

Kali Yuga

 

[LeafByNiggle]

Yet they are all in lockstep and on the same page ALL AROUND THE WORLD. Not just on medicine but on a host of other topics, welcoming in certain things and shutting out others. No conspiracy there, just a massive coincidence!

They are not in lockstep, except on the conclusions that everyone agrees are true, because they are true. It is not a coincidence at all.

 

[JohnEmmett]

conclusions that everyone agrees are true, because they are true.

… we'll see

 

[GOD Shines Forth!]

Kali Yuga

Had to look that up!