COVERING THE PLANET IN FORESTS STILL WOULDN’T STOP CLIMATE CHANGE

[OldWiseGuy]

Without regard to carbon sequestration we should build houses in some regions out of thick logs to keep them from blowing away during tornado's and hurricanes.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Perhaps. The Good Lord is The only One who can fix man and earth.

But until he does we still have a duty to care for the earth, and each other.

 

[lsume]

But until he does we still have a duty to care for the earth, and each other.

Yes, but don’t get confused. God is not the author of confusion and there is little we can do to alter the current situation. The thermal pollution we are putting out is now worse than it was. Rather than go into the thermodynamics of this reality, perhaps prayer would work better.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Yes, but don’t get confused. God is not the author of confusion and there is little we can do to alter the current situation. The thermal pollution we are putting out is now worse than it was. Rather than go into the thermodynamics of this reality, perhaps prayer would work better.

I like fashioning solutions for interesting problems.

 

[lsume]

I like fashioning solutions for interesting problems.

The biggest source of pollution that we studied was thermal. Electricity is high in thermal pollution. The most efficient power plant in the world is maybe 49% efficient. The rest is released in heat as is a great deal in line losses and then there is the inefficiency of the motors which typically is 20% loss. Perhaps you can figure out the solution but it’s doubtful that man will adapt your solution. If man wanted too, we could use geothermal and solar to generate all of our power needs.

 

[LightLoveHope]

Trees and vegetation don’t capture C02, they convert it to oxygen, they don’t store it.

It’s part of the natural cycle designed by God. We breathe in oxygen and exhale C02: and plants reverse the process.

C02 is not a pollutant, and in fact is only 4% of the greenhouse effect - thus in reality can’t possibly drive global warming - and the claims of feedback loops to try to perpetuate the global warming scam, are bogus.

Where do you think plants grow their stems, trunks and branches from? Life is carbon based, so by photosynthesis the plant captures co2, extracts the carbon and releases the oxygen.

The reason for capturing carbon is to be able to grow. CO2 is a poison, double the current amount in the atmosphere and it will start to serious damage us. CO2 is also a greenhouse gas, though methane is much greater in its affect.

So I cannot accept your accusation about a global warming scam. The melting of the glaciers around the world, the shrinking of the ice sheets in Greenland and the antartic should worry everyone. The trouble with global warming is it is the raising of the average temperature by a few degrees which shows itself subtly. Tasmania has seen its sea temperature rise by over 2c which is devastating the marine animals etc. Across the uk it can be shown animals used to cold climates are moving north, and more southerly animals moving in to take their place. In London we now have year in year out months of no rain, clear skies, when the climate I grew up in was rain every day or every other day. It literally rarely happen we would get 2 weeks with no rain. But now it is often we get weeks, months without rain, and then massive downpours with flooding.

Take rising sea levels, they are occurring everywhere. Low lying areas, coastal cities etc. like Venice are sinking and have no long term future without massive sea barriers. In Florida cities are raising barriers, building roads higher etc.

There is no point arguing against this, because it is no longer an opinion, it is happening.

What I find amazing is that there are people who want to deny the obvious for their own emotional and personal reasons, which is fine, but they will find the majority will just dismiss them are nutcases.

If anyone loves skiing, the difficulty of finding snow every year is not something one can argue about, it is just the reality of the start and end of the season, having to go to higher and higher resorts, and leaving it later in the year to even book time.

Why is climate change so difficult to accept? Is it because it means things have to change and change is a difficult word to get ones head around? As a trained scientist and business analyst, one defines ones view of the world on observations and facts, not what one thinks exists. You do this because you then know what is best to do next and what is actually useful and productive.

God bless you

 

[Daniel Martinovich]

"…THERE AREN'T ENOUGH TREES TO OFFSET SOCIETY’S CARBON EMISSIONS — AND THERE NEVER WILL BE."

Carbon Cycle
Anyone who’s taken a science class has probably learned that burning things puts carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, while plants swap it out for oxygen. So it’s not surprising that so many plans and corporate pledges to help reduce the ravages of climate change involve planting more and more trees.

That’s great, and reforestation in areas where tree cover has been removed will only accomplish good things for the planet. But unfortunately, according to new research, it can never be enough to actually make up for all the harm that humanity is doing to the world.

“But the fact is that there aren’t enough trees to offset society’s carbon emissions — and there never will be,” Imperial College London climate change and environment lecturer Bonnie Waring wrote in The Conversation.

Net Loss

Continued below.
Covering the Planet in Forests Still Wouldn’t Stop Climate Change

The answer is always the same. More, bigger, centralized government control over our lives to save us from ourselves. What Bible rejecting deception.

The faux environmental movement is the biggest movement contributor to the destruction of the ecosystem.
Right now as we speak 2/3rds of humanity are dumping their raw sewage and toxic industrial waste directly into the water and air. THIS is the 95% of the threat humanity possess to the planets eco-system. The only outward difference between the 1/3 that filters out the pollutants from their waste verses those who do not is wealth, the creation of it and economic growth. The fully developed nations have been able to spend tens of trillions of dollars of middle class wealth on infrastructure to clean pollutants out of their waste. As it stands right now in most undeveloped countries they couldn’t even afford to maintain a three stage sewage plant if we built it for them.

Yet the anti-science faux environmental movements entire focus is limiting economic growth and the creation of wealth through the global warming con. Wealth is the only thing that will save this planet from environmental caststople and enable mankind in general to live sustainably with the environment. Yet we also find these same lefties who oppose economic growth on almost religious reasons also fighting the adoption of Biblical principle by the nations that will naturally result in the creation of wealth and large middle class cultures.

The whole thing is sickening. It’s just like the proverbs say. They that hate me (God inspired wisdom) love death. some people just have an un restrainable lust to be in control of everything and everyone not to mention access to their money. People like that ought to be resisted by every means available.

 

[Daniel Martinovich]

The biggest source of pollution that we studied was thermal. Electricity is high in thermal pollution. The most efficient power plant in the world is maybe 49% efficient. The rest is released in heat as is a great deal in line losses and then there is the inefficiency of the motors which typically is 20% loss. Perhaps you can figure out the solution but it’s doubtful that man will adapt your solution. If man wanted too, we could use geothermal and solar to generate all of our power needs.

It’s not a matter of man “wanting too.” As much as it is a matter of all the steps that would have to be taken to get from one place to another that take centuries against resistance by the wicked. You want environmental sustainability? Then you have to have massive middle class wealth to pay for it. You want massive middle class wealth? Then a few billion more people need to become real Christians and their nations have to adopt the Biblical principle for all that to naturally come to pass.

 

[Daniel Martinovich]

Where do you think plants grow their stems, trunks and branches from? Life is carbon based, so by photosynthesis the plant captures co2, extracts the carbon and releases the oxygen.

The reason for capturing carbon is to be able to grow. CO2 is a poison, double the current amount in the atmosphere and it will start to serious damage us. CO2 is also a greenhouse gas, though methane is much greater in its affect.

So I cannot accept your accusation about a global warming scam. The melting of the glaciers around the world, the shrinking of the ice sheets in Greenland and the antarctic should worry everyone. The trouble with global warming is it is the raising of the average temperature by a few degrees which shows itself subtly. Tasmania has seen its sea temperature rise by over 2c which is devastating the marine animals etc. Across the uk it can be shown animals used to cold climates are moving north, and more southerly animals moving in to take their place. In London we now have year in year out months of no rain, clear skies, when the climate I grew up in was rain every day or every other day. It literally rarely happen we would get 2 weeks with no rain. But now it is often we get weeks, months without rain, and then massive downpours with flooding.

Take rising sea levels, they are occurring everywhere. Low lying areas, coastal cities etc. like Venice are sinking and have no long term future without massive sea barriers. In Florida cities are raising barriers, building roads higher etc.

There is no point arguing against this, because it is no longer an opinion, it is happening.

What I find amazing is that there are people who want to deny the obvious for their own emotional and personal reasons, which is fine, but they will find the majority will just dismiss them are nutcases.

If anyone loves skiing, the difficulty of finding snow every year is not something one can argue about, it is just the reality of the start and end of the season, having to go to higher and higher resorts, and leaving it later in the year to even book time.

Why is climate change so difficult to accept? Is it because it means things have to change and change is a difficult word to get ones head around? As a trained scientist and business analyst, one defines ones view of the world on observations and facts, not what one thinks exists. You do this because you then know what is best to do next and what is actually useful and productive.

God bless you

It is a big canard that people are not accepting climate change because it is a natural occurrence. What they are rejecting is extreme danger of greater and greater government control over their lives that scientism not science is simply a vehicle for. Ie, extreme danger of rejecting the Biblical principle of limited government that will as a matter of course do exactly what God said it would do when Israel voted out God and voted in a king.

Give us a break. The climate models that invented the whole scam didn't even include solar radiation in their calculations. The very basis of a warm atmosphere in the first place. They didn't include the cyclical tilt or wobble of the earth that causes warmer of cooler temps in the hemispheres that is measured in decades not years. They didn't include the varying cyclical distances distances the earth is from the sun. They didn't include solar flare activity or sunspot activity. They didn't include the millions of variations in the earths own system. They don't even know what those variations are. They basically programed into a cpu what happens if you put more CO2 in a greenhouse then asked the computer what if we put more CO2 in the atmosphere, what will happen?

Then they scammed the public on melting glaciers and such. The lying and incompetent corporate news reading public never knew that from the mid 90's up until the last few years the Antarctic saw yearly records in ice mass. Nope, the first they ever heard a word about the antarctic that was making up for any supposed ice loss in the northern hemisphere was when natural cyclical cooling\warming of the hemispheres began to reverse. then all of the sudden [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]! The antarctic is melting. You know Greenland was named Greenland centuries ago because it was green, not because it was covered in ice.

How about as Christians we focus on the true environmental catastrophe going on right now and the cure for it rather than the corrupt leftist con job to take over the nations with a faux environmental catastrophe?


Right now as we speak 2/3rds of humanity are dumping their raw sewage and toxic industrial waste directly into the water and air. THIS is the 95% of the threat humanity possess to the planets eco-system. The only outward difference between the 1/3 that filters out the pollutants from their waste verses those who do not is wealth, the creation of it and economic growth. The fully developed nations have been able to spend tens of trillions of dollars of middle class wealth on infrastructure to clean pollutants out of their waste. As it stands right now in most undeveloped countries they couldn’t even afford to maintain a three stage sewage plant if we built it for them.

Yet the anti-science faux environmental movements entire focus is limiting economic growth and the creation of wealth through the global warming con. Wealth is the only thing that will save this planet from environmental catastrophe and enable mankind in general to live sustainably with the environment. Yet we also find these same lefties who oppose economic growth on almost religious reasons also fighting the adoption of Biblical principle by the nations that will naturally result in the creation of wealth and large middle class cultures.

The whole thing is sickening. It’s just like the proverbs say. They that hate me (God inspired wisdom) love death. some people just have an un-restrainable lust to be in control of everything and everyone not to mention access to their money. People like that ought to be resisted by every means available.

 

[Daniel Martinovich]

Ah yes,
And we have all the Christians now quoting the views of Mohamed, Joseph Smith, the JW's, the Adventists, and all the other pathetically un-spiritual Christian and non-Christian sects view that God is coming to judge and destroy the planet as we know it anyway. We can't can't win.

An exert from my up and coming book:


The first one is in Luke 17: 20 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God comes not with observation: (visibly) 21 Neither will they say, Look here! or, look there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you. Most people take this as meaning Jesus is telling the religious leaders of the day that the kingdom of God is not coming visibly at that time, with Jesus King David's descendant leading it. They think by their reading of the New Testament that it will come supernaturally and quite visibly at a later date. Yet that is not what Jesus said. He said it does not come visibly at all. That however is not the main point I am trying to make. My point is that the question being asked and the answer being told is referring to something very specific; the Old Testament prophecies about the kingdom of God. The New Testament was not even written at this point. Jesus is revealing the Old Testament to the people. That those prophecies do not say what the religious leaders of that day thought they said. This is verified by verse 21. In that verse Jesus is saying those Old Testament prophecies will come to pass in the world because the Kingdom of God is within, among and in the hearts of individuals. In other words. God will bring those prophecies to pass in the world through those individuals who's hearts that kingdom dwells.



Here are two more verses that teach the same thing. Strangely enough, one of them is the most famous verse in the New Testament. "NT" from here on out. John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. The Greek word for world in verse 17 is kosmos. It refers to the world that the vast majority of the nation's pulpits teach will face divine judgment and destruction. That is why I am saying verse 17 is one of the most ignored verses in the NT. Verse 17 is directly teaching us that the physical planet and mankind's civilizations on it will eventually be healed, preserved or rescued out of danger into safety. How might one ask? Verse 16 says how. By way of individuals being given eternal life because they put their trust in the Son of God. To put it another way. Because God will put a little bit of heaven; a little bit of himself into them and through them transform the despotic ancient world into a world that the Old Testament prophecies of a promised era precisely illustrated. From here on out "OT" will be used in place of Old Testament.

 

[lsume]

It’s not a matter of man “wanting too.” As much as it is a matter of all the steps that would have to be taken to get from one place to another that take centuries against resistance by the wicked. You want environmental sustainability? Then you have to have massive middle class wealth to pay for it. You want massive middle class wealth? Then a few billion more people need to become real Christians and their nations have to adopt the Biblical principle for all that to naturally come to pass.

I think you can shorten your list to just the Christian part. Based on Sodom and Gomorrah, if only ten righteous were found God would have saved those cities. I don’t know what the percentage was but obviously there were not 10. He did in fact save all that He considered righteous.

 

[SummerMadness]

Whoever argued that the only way around this is to plant trees? I have never seen that argument made, most are about reducing emissions by changing to renewable, non-polluting energy, making things more efficient, and instituting new technologies that can be used to capture carbon. Talk about a straw man argument.

 

[Toro]

Thats odd, cause it seems to me the plan is to collapse an economic and power structure (both electricity and the influential power) for technology that doesn't even exist yet or expecting the technology we DO have to be much more efficient than it actually is.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Thats odd, cause it seems to me the plan is to collapse an economic and power structure (both electricity and the influential power) for technology that doesn't even exist yet or expecting the technology we DO have to be much more efficient than it actually is.

True. If we're going to go all-electric vehicles we'd better start building nuclear power plants fast.

 

[renniks]

Why is climate change so difficult to accept? Is it because it means things have to change and change is a difficult word to get ones head around?

Things always change. The climate has always changed. The only thing different is us believing we can control it somehow.

 

[SamanthaAnastasia]

Idk we need to still try. We are the stewards of our planet that God has given us. We have to take care of it.

Even if you don’t believe in climate change, what we are doing to the earth is not good.

We still need to plant more trees. That is just like, a given. Trees are nice. They make cities cooler.

I do want us to move completely away from fossil fuels because they are finite. I want to keep fossil fuels reserves as long as possible because they create important petrochemicals that creates items for very important industries. Single use plastic was revolutionary for medical world (however, most regular products don’t need to be packaged in actual plastic). There are many products like industrial glue, solvents, fibers, gels, etc that have no substitute yet that need to be safe guarded.

I think we really need to have Waste-to-Energy plants in the US like they have in Europe instead of landfills. It would cut down on pollution and the methane gas that landfills produce.

With hacking such a problem, I do worry about nuclear power plants (not to mention the nuclear waste issue). Therefore, I believe WtE is still a much better option than landfills and coal.

Individual homes can have a one time tax credit or discounts or something idk for solar panels.

But water is an issue. Desalination of ocean water makes the ocean more salty over time and can harm ocean life. So finding a way to reclaim 100% of wastewater would be phenomenal and have a use impact on the environment.

Finally, batteries need to get more efficient and fast. They're a huge issue. And if we don’t go to electric cars, biofuel is an option. Corn or peanuts would help farms and have less emissions.

 

[chad kincham]

Where do you think plants grow their stems, trunks and branches from? Life is carbon based, so by photosynthesis the plant captures co2, extracts the carbon and releases the oxygen.

The reason for capturing carbon is to be able to grow. CO2 is a poison, double the current amount in the atmosphere and it will start to serious damage us. CO2 is also a greenhouse gas, though methane is much greater in its affect.

So I cannot accept your accusation about a global warming scam. The melting of the glaciers around the world, the shrinking of the ice sheets in Greenland and the antartic should worry everyone. The trouble with global warming is it is the raising of the average temperature by a few degrees which shows itself subtly. Tasmania has seen its sea temperature rise by over 2c which is devastating the marine animals etc. Across the uk it can be shown animals used to cold climates are moving north, and more southerly animals moving in to take their place. In London we now have year in year out months of no rain, clear skies, when the climate I grew up in was rain every day or every other day. It literally rarely happen we would get 2 weeks with no rain. But now it is often we get weeks, months without rain, and then massive downpours with flooding.

Take rising sea levels, they are occurring everywhere. Low lying areas, coastal cities etc. like Venice are sinking and have no long term future without massive sea barriers. In Florida cities are raising barriers, building roads higher etc.

There is no point arguing against this, because it is no longer an opinion, it is happening.

What I find amazing is that there are people who want to deny the obvious for their own emotional and personal reasons, which is fine, but they will find the majority will just dismiss them are nutcases.

If anyone loves skiing, the difficulty of finding snow every year is not something one can argue about, it is just the reality of the start and end of the season, having to go to higher and higher resorts, and leaving it later in the year to even book time.

Why is climate change so difficult to accept? Is it because it means things have to change and change is a difficult word to get ones head around? As a trained scientist and business analyst, one defines ones view of the world on observations and facts, not what one thinks exists. You do this because you then know what is best to do next and what is actually useful and productive.

God bless you

Man-caused Climate change is a huge con job, see my post #27 on this thread.

It is a big canard that people are not accepting climate change because it is a natural occurrence. What they are rejecting is extreme danger of greater and greater government control over their lives that scientism not science is simply a vehicle for. Ie, extreme danger of rejecting the Biblical principle of limited government that will as a matter of course do exactly what God said it would do when Israel voted out God and voted in a king.

Give us a break. The climate models that invented the whole scam didn't even include solar radiation in their calculations. The very basis of a warm atmosphere in the first place. They didn't include the cyclical tilt or wobble of the earth that causes warmer of cooler temps in the hemispheres that is measured in decades not years. They didn't include the varying cyclical distances distances the earth is from the sun. They didn't include solar flare activity or sunspot activity. They didn't include the millions of variations in the earths own system. They don't even know what those variations are. They basically programed into a cpu what happens if you put more CO2 in a greenhouse then asked the computer what if we put more CO2 in the atmosphere, what will happen?

Then they scammed the public on melting glaciers and such. The lying and incompetent corporate news reading public never knew that from the mid 90's up until the last few years the Antarctic saw yearly records in ice mass. Nope, the first they ever heard a word about the antarctic that was making up for any supposed ice loss in the northern hemisphere was when natural cyclical cooling\warming of the hemispheres began to reverse. then all of the sudden [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]! The antarctic is melting. You know Greenland was named Greenland centuries ago because it was green, not because it was covered in ice.

How about as Christians we focus on the true environmental catastrophe going on right now and the cure for it rather than the corrupt leftist con job to take over the nations with a faux environmental catastrophe?


Right now as we speak 2/3rds of humanity are dumping their raw sewage and toxic industrial waste directly into the water and air. THIS is the 95% of the threat humanity possess to the planets eco-system. The only outward difference between the 1/3 that filters out the pollutants from their waste verses those who do not is wealth, the creation of it and economic growth. The fully developed nations have been able to spend tens of trillions of dollars of middle class wealth on infrastructure to clean pollutants out of their waste. As it stands right now in most undeveloped countries they couldn’t even afford to maintain a three stage sewage plant if we built it for them.

Yet the anti-science faux environmental movements entire focus is limiting economic growth and the creation of wealth through the global warming con. Wealth is the only thing that will save this planet from environmental catastrophe and enable mankind in general to live sustainably with the environment. Yet we also find these same lefties who oppose economic growth on almost religious reasons also fighting the adoption of Biblical principle by the nations that will naturally result in the creation of wealth and large middle class cultures.

The whole thing is sickening. It’s just like the proverbs say. They that hate me (God inspired wisdom) love death. some people just have an un-restrainable lust to be in control of everything and everyone not to mention access to their money. People like that ought to be resisted by every means available.

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Exactly!

Here’s how the distort facts and statistics they cite:

 

[chad kincham]

Where do you think plants grow their stems, trunks and branches from? Life is carbon based, so by photosynthesis the plant captures co2, extracts the carbon and releases the oxygen.

The reason for capturing carbon is to be able to grow. CO2 is a poison, double the current amount in the atmosphere and it will start to serious damage us. CO2 is also a greenhouse gas, though methane is much greater in its affect.

So I cannot accept your accusation about a global warming scam. The melting of the glaciers around the world, the shrinking of the ice sheets in Greenland and the antartic should worry everyone. The trouble with global warming is it is the raising of the average temperature by a few degrees which shows itself subtly. Tasmania has seen its sea temperature rise by over 2c which is devastating the marine animals etc. Across the uk it can be shown animals used to cold climates are moving north, and more southerly animals moving in to take their place. In London we now have year in year out months of no rain, clear skies, when the climate I grew up in was rain every day or every other day. It literally rarely happen we would get 2 weeks with no rain. But now it is often we get weeks, months without rain, and then massive downpours with flooding.

Take rising sea levels, they are occurring everywhere. Low lying areas, coastal cities etc. like Venice are sinking and have no long term future without massive sea barriers. In Florida cities are raising barriers, building roads higher etc.

There is no point arguing against this, because it is no longer an opinion, it is happening.

What I find amazing is that there are people who want to deny the obvious for their own emotional and personal reasons, which is fine, but they will find the majority will just dismiss them are nutcases.

If anyone loves skiing, the difficulty of finding snow every year is not something one can argue about, it is just the reality of the start and end of the season, having to go to higher and higher resorts, and leaving it later in the year to even book time.

Why is climate change so difficult to accept? Is it because it means things have to change and change is a difficult word to get ones head around? As a trained scientist and business analyst, one defines ones view of the world on observations and facts, not what one thinks exists. You do this because you then know what is best to do next and what is actually useful and productive.

God bless you

C02 is absolutely not a poison! That’s absurd!

All plant life would die out if the so called poison, was removed from the atmosphere.

C02 is absolutely an integral part of the cycle of life, as we exhale it after breathing in 02, and plants do the opposite, by breathing in C02 and breathing out oxygen - just as God designed it to work.

See post #69, as they nail the true facts about claims of man-caused global warming.

 

[dqhall]

The world is losing trees at an alarming rate.

This 3 minute 18 second video shows Google Earth video of our vanishing forests:

 

[klutedavid]

It is a big canard that people are not accepting climate change because it is a natural occurrence. What they are rejecting is extreme danger of greater and greater government control over their lives that scientism not science is simply a vehicle for. Ie, extreme danger of rejecting the Biblical principle of limited government that will as a matter of course do exactly what God said it would do when Israel voted out God and voted in a king.

Give us a break. The climate models that invented the whole scam didn't even include solar radiation in their calculations. The very basis of a warm atmosphere in the first place. They didn't include the cyclical tilt or wobble of the earth that causes warmer of cooler temps in the hemispheres that is measured in decades not years. They didn't include the varying cyclical distances distances the earth is from the sun. They didn't include solar flare activity or sunspot activity. They didn't include the millions of variations in the earths own system. They don't even know what those variations are. They basically programed into a cpu what happens if you put more CO2 in a greenhouse then asked the computer what if we put more CO2 in the atmosphere, what will happen?

Then they scammed the public on melting glaciers and such. The lying and incompetent corporate news reading public never knew that from the mid 90's up until the last few years the Antarctic saw yearly records in ice mass. Nope, the first they ever heard a word about the antarctic that was making up for any supposed ice loss in the northern hemisphere was when natural cyclical cooling\warming of the hemispheres began to reverse. then all of the sudden [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]! The antarctic is melting. You know Greenland was named Greenland centuries ago because it was green, not because it was covered in ice.

How about as Christians we focus on the true environmental catastrophe going on right now and the cure for it rather than the corrupt leftist con job to take over the nations with a faux environmental catastrophe?


Right now as we speak 2/3rds of humanity are dumping their raw sewage and toxic industrial waste directly into the water and air. THIS is the 95% of the threat humanity possess to the planets eco-system. The only outward difference between the 1/3 that filters out the pollutants from their waste verses those who do not is wealth, the creation of it and economic growth. The fully developed nations have been able to spend tens of trillions of dollars of middle class wealth on infrastructure to clean pollutants out of their waste. As it stands right now in most undeveloped countries they couldn’t even afford to maintain a three stage sewage plant if we built it for them.

Yet the anti-science faux environmental movements entire focus is limiting economic growth and the creation of wealth through the global warming con. Wealth is the only thing that will save this planet from environmental catastrophe and enable mankind in general to live sustainably with the environment. Yet we also find these same lefties who oppose economic growth on almost religious reasons also fighting the adoption of Biblical principle by the nations that will naturally result in the creation of wealth and large middle class cultures.

The whole thing is sickening. It’s just like the proverbs say. They that hate me (God inspired wisdom) love death. some people just have an un-restrainable lust to be in control of everything and everyone not to mention access to their money. People like that ought to be resisted by every means available.

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Need to add another decade on the x-axis.